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February 09, 2017

Its Foreign Greed And Delusion That Kills Yemeni Children

Ten-thousands, and soon hundred-thousands die in Yemen as result of zealotry, greed and bureaucratic infighting of foreign countries. The Wahhabi Saudis fight in Yemen against Iranian Shia that ain't there. Under the eyes of the CIA they nurture local al-Qaeda forces to do their bidding. The UAE seeks new ports in Yemen thereby disturbing Saudi pipeline dreams. The Pentagon tussles with the CIA over budgets of special operations.  The minor local Yemeni conflicts between the various tribes develop into a war due to foreign interference and financing. Bombing campaigns have replaced tribal mediation.

The executive branch of the United Nations is under pressure from the U.S.-Saudi coalition. It is not allowed to report on the real consequences of the devastating war on Yemen. The leads to rather comical assertions.

On August 31 2016 the UN coordinator on Yemen Jamie McGoldrick said that 10,000 people had died due to the war on Yemen:

Speaking from the capital Sanaa on Tuesday, Jamie McGoldrick, the UN humanitarian coordinator said the new figure was based on official information from medical facilities in Yemen.

The number could rise further, McGoldrick said, as some areas had no medical facilities, and people were often buried without any official record being made.

"We know the numbers are much higher but we can't tell you by how much," McGoldrick told reporters

On January 17 2017 the UN coordinator on Yemen Jamie McGoldrick said that 10,000 people had died due to the war on Yemen:

"[T]he estimates are that over 10,000 people have been killed in this conflict and almost 40,000 people injured", UN humanitarian co-ordinator for Yemen Jamie McGoldrick told reporters in the capital Sanaa on Monday.

He did not provide a breakdown between civilians and combatants.

The UN numbers did not change from August 2016 to January 2017. Despite intense bombing and ravaging famine no one seems to have died. But those numbers are of course mere fantasies. The real death toll due to the war on Yemen is at least ten times higher. The numbers the UN envoy claims are political. He is not allowed to reveal the real ones.

In mid 2016 the Saudis pressured the then UN General Secretary Ban Ki-moon to take it off a list of countries that are harming children:

Muslim allies of Saudi Arabia piled pressure on UN chief Ban Ki-moon over the blacklisting of a Saudi-led coalition for killing children in Yemen, with Riyadh threatening to cut Palestinian aid and funds to other UN programs, according to diplomatic sources.

A UN Secretary General with some backbone would not have relented but would have publicly shamed the Saudis and their allies at each possible occasion. Not so Ban Ki-moon:

Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said Thursday he temporarily removed the Saudi-led coalition in Yemen from a U.N. blacklist for violating child rights because its supporters threatened to stop funding many U.N. programs.

Ban said he had to consider "the very real prospect" that millions of other children in the Palestinian territories, South Sudan, Syria, Yemen and many other places "would suffer grievously" if U.N. programs were defunded.

The United States and Britain actively supported Saudi Arabia in getting its way at the UN and within the UN Security Council.

But the UN giving in to blackmail did not save any children. UNICEF, somewhat independent from the General Secretary, reports much higher (though still incomplete) numbers that come nearer to the truth:

Yemen has lost a decade's worth of gains in public health as a result of war and economic crisis, with an estimated 63,000 children dying last year of preventable causes often linked to malnutrition, the U.N. Children's Fund (UNICEF) said on Tuesday.
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A decade has been lost in health gains," she said, with 63 out of every 1,000 live births now dying before their fifth birthday, against 53 children in 2014.
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Releno later told a news briefing that the rate of severe acute malnutrition had "tripled" between 2014 and 2016 to 460,000 children.

"The under-5 mortality rate has increased to the point that we estimate that in 2016 at least 10,000 more children died of preventable diseases," she said.

In medical statistic terms these are "excess death". They would not have occurred without the war waged on the country. It is unlikely that these  UNICEF numbers are complete.

The mountainous north-west of Yemen is the core area of the Zaidi Shia population from which the Houthi militia fighting the Saudis and their proxies derive. It is now mostly cut off from communication and supply channels. Hospitals and schools in the area have been heavily bombed and its main northern city Sadah has been completely destroyed by Saudi air attacks. The Zaidi comprise about 45% of Yemen's 24 million people and up to 1962 Zaidi caliph ruled the country for over 1,000 years. For the Saudi Wahhabi zealots the Zaidi are not real Muslims and deserve to die.

Many people in the north west have fled to Yemen's capital Sanaa. But even there food is running out. Hungry children roam the streets begging for food.

The Yemenis, and especially the Zaidi, have always been independent minded. They will not give in to Saudi pressure. The Saudis can not defeat them. Together with their U.S. and British allies they have therefore decided on a follow a genocidal strategy. They cut off the country, which usually imports up to 90% of its basic food needs, from the outside world. Saudi ships patrol the coast and the land borders are mostly under Saudi control. Only smugglers and the few official UN convoys provide some relief. But this is obviously far from enough. The ten-thousands "excess death" are a direct consequence of the U.S.-Saudi blockade.

Besides the war on the Zaidi, geo-political conflicts are waged in Yemen. The Saudis accuse the Zaidi of being proxy forces of Iran. But there is no evidence for this. No Iranian weapons or Iranian advisor have been seen in Yemen. Iran had warned the Houthi not to expend their rule. Contacts between the Houthi and Iran are now few and superficial. The U.S. navy caught a few smuggling Dau on the way from maybe Iran to Somalia. It claims that the old and few weapons they carried were destined for Yemen which is already overflowing with weapons. No evidence for this claim has been provided.

The real geo-political fight is taking place within the U.S.-Saudi coalition. The United Arab Emirates is nominally part of the coalition. They have  provided forces and hired mercenaries to fight the Houthi in Yemen. But it is mainly interested in the southern ports of Aden (containers and general cargo) and Mukalla (oil and gas) and supports a southern independence movement. The UAE owned port management company DP World had its exclusive concessions for the ports canceled when the Houthi kicked out the former government. First the Houthi, then al-Qaeda took control over the ports. The UAE now occupies the port cities with the help of south-Yemeni mercenaries and again manages and controls the ports.

The Saudis have their own interest in those ports. They have plans for pipelines from their main oilfields up north to Mukalla. The pipelines would allow the Saudi oil exports to circumvent the vulnerable sea lane through the street of Hormuz. But for that they need a port on the Yemeni coast.

The Saudis have supported and allied themselves with radical Salafi groups in Yemen. One of these runs under the name al-Qaeda but it is not as tightly joined to the global al-Qaeda organization as it seems. The Saudi supported al-Qaeda groups, originally hired to fight the Houthi, "liberated" the southern ports. They were ordered out when UAE supported forces arrived but intermittently attacks the UAE occupied Aden and, as Yemeni sources claim, also attacks Mukalla under the label ISIS or Islamic State.

This murky conflict is again coming to the fore because UAE special forces took part in a recent U.S. raid on an alleged al-Qaeda camp in Yemen. It has been confirmed that 25 civilians, at least 9 of them children, were killed in the raid. The main U.S. target, an alleged al-Qaeda big wig, escaped. The Saudi proxy government in Yemen protested against the raid. It banned further U.S. ground operation in the country (later taken back). Its ambassador explained that al-Qaeda is part of its fight against the Houthi and not a priority enemy. He repeatedly said that the "highest levels" of the U.S. government were informed of this.

The raid in Yemen was carried out by the Pentagon, not by the CIA. The U.S. special forces were accompanied by UAE forces. After the raid al-Qaeda in Yemen retook three southern towns and is again threatening the UAE controlled port cities.

My recent discussions with Yemeni sources developed around the following speculative picture. In the war on Yemen the Pentagon is mainly allied with UAE and supports its plans for southern Yemen. The CIA is mainly allied with the Saudis, supports their plans and condones their alliance with al-Qaeda. The main target of the U.S. military raid was warned by the Saudis and escaped. The necessary information came from CIA channels.

A similar split between the CIA which supports Jihadis like al-Qaeda and the Pentagon which has to fight them occurred in Syria. The CIA provided weapons, paid by the Saudis, to various militant Islamist groups which the Pentagon knows it will later have to fight. The Pentagon tried to sabotage those CIA operations.

This conflict is between U.S. Budget Title 10 (the Pentagon) and U.S. Budget Title 50 (the Intelligence Services/the CIA) which has been waged for years. The responsibilities and authorities under these titles are disputed and discussed (pdf) over and over again. Has the CIA the lead in special operations or the Pentagon? Who will be able to claim the victories and who can be blamed for the losses?

The Yemeni children, dying of hunger, are the sorry victims of such idiotic fights. Bureaucracy infighting in the U.S. and pissing contests of Arab sheiks over transports routes around the Gulf are deciding their fates.

Yesterday the New York Times editors, again drunk on cool aid, revealed their self-delusions to the world:

At least in recent decades, American presidents who took military action have been driven by the desire to promote freedom and democracy, ...

That lie will surely be solace for the relatives of the kids killed in the special force raid in Yemen which was planned and ordered by two U.S. presidents. It will nourish the millions of children who hunger and ten-thousands who die in Yemen due to lack of food. Freedom and democracy will be valued by those dying from U.S. bombs dropped from U.S. build planes by U.S. trained Saudi pilots with the help of U.S. intelligence. The new U.S. administration plans to double down on such support.

As so often in such conflicts the locals are mere pawns in games played by foreign countries. If the foreign powers stayed out, the local conflicts would be solved within weeks and the healing could begin. It would, in the end, be the best solution for all. At the end of the 30 year war in Europe that insight was enshrined in international law. But the valuable experience, paid with blood and devastation, has been discarded. How can it be regained?

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Xlnt, thanks.
Another view of situation by Gareth Porter
Trump's Hard Line on Iran Will Give Saudis Free Hand in Yemen
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/39394-trump-s-hard-line-on-iran-will-give-saudis-free-hand-in-yemen

Posted by: mauisurfer | Feb 9, 2017 12:55:49 PM | 1

Beat will go if and until accountability under International Law, Geneva Conventions and UN resolutions...or unprecedented, devastating blowback occurs..If I had to guess, I'd say the later is more likely...not if, but when....

Posted by: Stephen | Feb 9, 2017 1:02:05 PM | 2

I've long wondered on what level the majority of US citizens understand and condone our true role in the world. I waver between, on the one hand, the masses wittingly or unwittingly believing the lies of our actions being in the name of freedom and on the other, knowing subconsciously that we are the most aggressive military state in the world, and most people are simpatico with that. I'm more leaning toward the later in the past few years. The narrative simply doesn't make sense, and any questioning invariably leads to the realization that we crush dissent and open foreign markets with our military. There are constant clues within our propagandized environs, such as Trump mentioning that we are not a country devoid of killers. The very fact that our country is active in Syria is completely inexplicable on any grounds, even the spreading of freedom tired diatribe. I suppose the one redeeming quality of Americas to explain this away is that the vast majority of citizens are up against the wall. Worked too hard, one paycheck away from going broke, and more easily fired from their occupation than at any time in a hundred years. Any politically unsavory comment at work, could spell the end. It's almost as though everyone gets it, but is self censoring for fear of losing everything. This is a very peculiar era.

Posted by: IhaveLittleToAdd | Feb 9, 2017 1:58:09 PM | 3

@ 3 said: "I've long wondered on what level the majority of US citizens understand and condone our true role in the world."

The majority of Americans neither care, or would they understand,the REAL role America plays in the world. Being entertained is more important than being informed.

"Ignorance is bliss"

Posted by: ben | Feb 9, 2017 2:14:39 PM | 4

thanks for covering yemen b.. it is an ongoing humanitarian crisis that makes the AI story pale in comparison.. one is very real and not being covered - the other another line of bs by the regime change masters..

when will the us petrodollar implode? that is the money driving this thing and unfortunately it is all about money - usa in bed with the headchopper cult trying to drive a religious wedge to further it's ongoing depraved agenda.

Posted by: james | Feb 9, 2017 2:29:40 PM | 5

The foreign policy of the US and its Anglosphere and EU vassals is so vile and despicable that I am doubting they are members of the human race. They have no heart. What is it that is pumping blood in their veins?

Posted by: AriusArmenian | Feb 9, 2017 2:39:00 PM | 6

I believe that most Americans would turn out to be real social justice activists (or at least supporters) were they to take time off from their multiple crappy low-pay jobs and stop consuming corporate fake media.

The contrived (Soros) "left" must be left behind to make their shrill, absurd demands on their own. A lot of them are contained in academic institutions anyway. Time to make the break.

Start by doing non-organized street protests against Saudi Arabia, maybe.

Posted by: blues | Feb 9, 2017 2:42:18 PM | 7

Thank you for this. The truly deplorable situation (and one Queen Hillary didn't mention of course) in Yemen shows how seriously the US and western leadership and much of the UN take their "responsibility to protect" the world's poor citizens from wholly preventable atrocities like siege-induced starvation, disease and death by aerial bombardment.

It shows the hypocrisy and moral bankruptcy of the mass media as it whips up hysteria over Aleppo based on distortions, half-truths and outright lies while the Saudi and western sponsored atrocity show in Yemen gets barely any press. "The Forgotten War" as it is often referred to by MSM churnalists with no trace of irony whatsoever on the sporadic occasions when they write a few paragraphs about this "tragedy".

No mention that pretty much every western nation with a pistol factory is selling arms or military equipment to the medieval al-Saud monarchy which it uses to commit war crimes against the Yemeni people. The US and UK sell them cluster munitions and other HE ordnance which military advisors from those same two nations help them drop on the heads of starving Yemeni civilians. These same warmongering criminals than make high-minded speeches in the UN about their Orwellian R2P regime change operations aka "protecting" people by bombing their cities and infrastructure into rubble and replacing their governments with western-friendly thugs or gangs of warring bandits and mercenary religious fanatics.

This war, along with Israel's license to commit slow-motion genocide against Palestinians and our political and business leaders chummy relationship with Saudi Arabia, lays bare the utter moral depravity, hypocrisy and ruthless thuggery of the civilized west and its oh-so-precious human rights and freedom. It also reflects badly on many of us, the citizens of the west, who are quick to say "it's not our fault, it's our governments and banksters!" Even worse are the mindless automatons who cry on demand over the "children of Aleppo" and repeat propaganda fed to them by extremist militias, er, freedom fighters, via the MSM, and curse the evil "Assad regime" and Russia for ending the bombing and dying in Aleppo while not sparing a thought for Yemen because the media did not tell them to do so.

There is no way we in the west will remain unscathed by the evil we directly or via proxy nurture in countries far away from our borders in the name of avarice and power. Out of sight out of mind as the saying goes. Well, they that sow the wind shall reap the whirlwind, as another saying goes. Or evil begets evil and what goes around comes around...take your pick.

Most citizens are oblivious to the suffering and death meted out in their names. They may wave a sign denouncing Trump and think that puts them on the side of right and good never connecting the dots that lead back to Obama, Bush (both), Clinton, Reagan, Carter etc. and the willing European sycophants who went along with them. Note how Trump's botched Yemeni "adventure" and Flynn's saber rattling at Iran are not even on the radar of the automatons. In their world words are more important and carry more weight than actions and symptoms are to be exaggerated and the cause forgotten. This kind of delusional dysfunction is not sustainable. Sooner or later the breakdown will come. And it will be ugly.

Posted by: Temporarily Sane | Feb 9, 2017 2:50:06 PM | 8

@7 Blues

I would also suggest anyone who wants to "stick it to the man" learn to live off-grid as much as possible. The neoliberal corporatocracy gets much of its power by engendering dependence. Easier said than done in many instances, but real change is never easy. Not using, or limiting use of, corporate data-mining spyware like Facebook and Google is relatively easy. Generating your own electricity is a little harder to do, but it is doable especially outside of urban areas. Ditto food production.

Protesting Saudi Arabia won't do much as we don't have any leverage over its "government". Protesting our governments' close relationship with Saudi Arabia and the media's whitewashing of its brutality and links to Salafist/Wahhabi terror groups might be more effective. But even that won't do much for the lives of citizens in your country. I'd suggest also demanding a liveable wage, and an end to the one-sided dictatorial relationship between employers and employees. Nothing like a general strike to give the high and mighty diarrhea and make workers realize how much power they in fact have. Why do you think 'collective action', 'unions' and 'worker's rights' are taboo in the US and much of the west? If you said it empowers workers and keeps employer's power in check you are right!

The left needs to get back to focusing on economics and stop deluding itself that Trump or some other capitalist oligarch, neoliberal or otherwise, is going to make life better for normal working people.

Posted by: Temporarily Sane | Feb 9, 2017 3:16:44 PM | 9

"The left needs to get back to focusing on economics and stop deluding itself..."

NO!

The real social justice activists need to leave the contrived "left" behind and begin to deal with real issues, such as stopping international aggression, internal aggression (police brutality), wealth royalism, and so on. Perhaps by forming local tenant's unions and calling rent strikes (everybody stops paying the rent).

There is no real "left/right". We know, for example, that the invention of so-called "libertarianism" was the work of payed-off "intellectuals" such as Mises. "Conservatism" was created by the wealthy clubs much earlier. Think about it: The existence of a "left" implies the existence of a "right". But this "right" is invented and totally fake P.R. propaganda to begin with.

The real social justice majority must base its ideals upon common sense, and leave all these contrived "movements" behind now.

Posted by: blues | Feb 9, 2017 3:43:35 PM | 10

Things are horrible for Afghani children as well. Sooner rather than later -- because the catastrophic impacts of climate change have in fact been systematically low-balled -- everything should be much worse. One would hope for a great culling of the "Masters of the Universe" as end times rapidly approach, but they'll likely be the ones to jet off to a secluded green farm in New Zealand or effectively garrison themselves in a high-tech fortress.

Posted by: Mike Maloney | Feb 9, 2017 4:01:33 PM | 11

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R2T...what!? You forgot!

US-based geologists have found huge untapped recoverable oil and gas reserves in Yemen. Ergo, sum. Following the (pre-planned Enron TAPI) 2001 invasion of Afghanistan, US-based geologists by 2006 had deciphered seized Russian geological records from the 1970s, showing huge untapped recoverable oil and gas and strategic minerals. Ergo, Surge! Taking out Iraqi Food-for-Oil oil supplies spiked crude from $15 to $145, the greatest spike in commodities in all of human history, ...yet one that's completely ignored by all this sheer utter bullshit about Ba'athists and Wahabists.

"Oh, it's the Sunnis versus the Shi'ias!"

Pure hog swallup. Religion as the casus belli is a sop for weak-minded fundamentalists who don't like to read technical reports, those who can't grok that Trump's Cabinet's is now full-spectrum dominance of all Justice and ReEducation, of Finance and War, and has only one purpose: their inexorable odious onerous egregiously Exceptionalist Hot Fiat Capitalist 'sers-toi à richesse manger' world view.

A hot fiat capital world view which is entirely secular. Entirely! The Money God, as aboriginals describe it. Mammon. The Golden Calf. It's the Cargo Cult of John Frum! And so, we will all be dressed up in uniforms, then uniformly tithed and re-educated, then marched in close-order drills off to the Great Sandbox, our Lords Triumphant hoping for some of that cargo to drop down out of the clear blue sky, hoping for six New Silver Shekels.

Posted by: Even More Outraged Ji | Feb 9, 2017 4:03:56 PM | 12

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General strikes only work where you have power over the elites. They will respond like the DAP, with fire hoses, truncheons, guard dogs, tasers and electric fences. Then you will lose, like DAP.

In case you haven't left the house lately, 95,000,000 are unemployed and/or homeless, you can see them on every street corner any time of day. You can see their children in rags in school, scurrying for free meals, hiding leftovers in their pack for their single parent in the shelter. Or visit the retail malls, the cratering empty voids, markdowns 50% to 80% yet still people just looking, or 'boosting'. I watched one guy put on three hoodies and walk out. There's no sales staff anymore. I watched an elder couple, a white guy and his japanese gal, take a jar of plums off the shelf and hold it like a religious relic, then push it back again, shaking their heads.

Think you're going to 'stand up to the man'? Had a great interview the other day, happy jolly, everyone all good old boy you're 'our kind', until I made an innocent joke about Trump as we were ready to go, then it was the Black Death. You could see the bird masks descend over their eyes, the cold handshakes, (don't call us) we'll call you.

Trumpistan reminds me of Nixonville, if you were alive back then, the same deep creeping Great Chill, the 100s, maybe 1000s of resume applications for each job, more and more impossible requirements and pre-requisites, in the desperate hope of finding that one human diamond in the rough to lead the corporation to YoY PATAMI. That's all that matters now. PATAMI.

Soon the QEn bubble will burst, Wall Street will loot the pension funds and 401ks, the economy will grind to a halt, and we'll be marched off to the Next Great War for Ba'al.

Posted by: Even More Outraged Ji | Feb 9, 2017 4:28:45 PM | 13

This Yeman story stirs some memories about the great humanitarian warriors who support human rights in Africa and the ME. Remember Darfur?

That was about 10 15 years ago. We had George Clooney and Nicholas Kristoff at the NYT crying out for the US to do something. At that time it was clear that Darfur was in the middle of a major drought that resulted in conflict between the herder people who were supported by feeding their herds on the open plains. The drought dried up the open plains. This resulted in the herder people encroaching on the more stable farmers who were experiencing the same drought. This resulted in conflict. It was one terrible dilemma. Outside forces saw an opportunity to destabilize the Sudan regime. Clooney and Kristoff came in and agitated for the US to protect the farmer people.

Now we have famine in Yemen. This is clearly the act of a Saudi backed blockade of that country and full time bombing of ports and other transportation centers. No natural famine here. As we all know the Saudis are supported completely by the US and the UK. This is not some natural famine but one very clearly calculated one.

So where is George Cloony and Nicholas Kristoff today? Very, very silent. I suppose they are waiting for their instructions from the Borg to know where they should apply their "humanitarian" talents next.

Posted by: ToivoS | Feb 9, 2017 4:52:31 PM | 14

b, 'The executive branch of the United Nations is under pressure from the U.S.-Saudi coalition. It is not allowed to report on the real consequences of the devastating war on Yemen. The leads to rather comical assertions.'

it's hard to see the humor in the subornation of the un. ai, hrw, un ... what's the difference? they all work for the great satan.


The Yemenis, and especially the Zaidi, have always been independent minded. They will not give in to Saudi pressure. The Saudis can not defeat them. Together with their U.S. and British allies they have therefore decided on a follow a genocidal strategy.

... don't forget ai, hrw, and the un. and the nytimes and bezo's blog. they're all part of the collective great satan's genocidal strategy as well.

In the war on Yemen the Pentagon is mainly allied with UAE and supports its plans for southern Yemen. The CIA is mainly allied with the Saudis, supports their plans and condones their alliance with al-Qaeda. The main target of the U.S. military raid was warned by the Saudis and escaped. The necessary information came from CIA channels.

... if this is so it is Yet Another Reason for tee-rump to lay the cia low. or they will surely lay him low. the tee-rump needs to forget about iran and israel, about saudi arabia and yemen and concentrate on his enemies in ac/dc. tee-rump needs to listen to tulsi gabbard, crush the cia, and stop arming terrorists ... at the cia, certainly. or there will be another act of terrorism ... against tee-rump himself.

The Yemeni children, dying of hunger, are the sorry victims of such idiotic fights. Bureaucracy infighting in the U.S. and pissing contests of Arab sheiks over transports routes around the Gulf are deciding their fates. ... The new U.S. administration plans to double down on such support.


... and americans don't care. nor europeans. kill 'em all. as long as we're punching the clock at the western mic.

At the end of the 30 year war in Europe that insight was enshrined in international law. But the valuable experience, paid with blood and devastation, has been discarded. How can it be regained?

... when these wars finally wind their way back to europe? and to north america itself? looks like that's the only thing that will awaken us/eu 'empathy' for the human victims of the death, devastation, and destruction we're so nonchalently wrecking world-wide. have been wrecking for 500 years, and counting.

Posted by: jfl | Feb 9, 2017 4:55:56 PM | 15

b,

thanks for your valuable insight into the saudi:cia::uae:pentagon dimension to this vile mess. not only is the usa on the wrong side ... it's managed to tri-furcate the mess so it can be on two out of three wrong sides of all this ... pointless genocide. the only reasons for its continuance are arms monies on the pentagon side and essential perversity on the cia's.

k-i-l-l the c-i-a, n-o-w. don't let it reach the age of seventy, 26 july 2017.

Posted by: jfl | Feb 9, 2017 5:07:38 PM | 16

Awesome points, b and everyone.
At one point, years ago and more naive I had hoped the Saudis could be a force for peace in the region. But they have proven over the past two+ decades to be the opposite. The Sunni vs Shia thing is real but is just a surface played tactic. Meanwhile others up above had no problem with attacks on infrastructure, setting countries back decades on living standards and health, setting up future generations to hate, and manipulating resources. As to LittletoAdd 3, most Americans care little because they are now kept distant with no troops or blood in the game. It is so strange to hear Rethugs make pretense at saying they disagreed on Iraq and that it was a "mistake." And the left hated war and Wall Street until Obama took office and let TPTB take the wind out of their sails on OWS. Me? It wasn't long into the Iraq war that I became so very disgusted with the unnecessary killing and suffering caused by US actions - pit of the stomach disgust. And it is strange how the Rwanda genocide is used for the new R2P logic. They claim they are preventing death and destruction by causing more of the same. Pure hypocrisy and Americans are supposed to hate such things. Even more outrage Ji. I can relate. As an unemployed tech, they've raised requirements to where there are high paying jobs for cronies or you can give your hard earned talents to $12 to $16 per hour work in bad mfg environments. BS degree and Security+ just to do PC support work? Then they complain they can't find (steal from other employers pre-trained) qualified workers.

Posted by: Curtis | Feb 9, 2017 5:07:38 PM | 17

Interesting point on the Pentagon vs CIA feud. For some reason, the CIA stabs everyone in the back. Levine documented this in his undercover work against the drug kingpins in South America. Stockwell documented what happened in Angola. I read another book about the scheme against Guatemala. And the Pentagon did not like dealing with the CIA in Afghanistan when they had to go in in 2001. CIA backed militias fought Pentagon militias in Syria. It's stupid, counterproductive, destructive, causes blowback, and earns the US a bad reputation. (Maybe not counterproductive if destroying nations is the goal.)

Posted by: Curtis | Feb 9, 2017 5:22:56 PM | 18

After much resistance, the CIA complied with the Clinton directive to release 25 year old documentation. But they made access very expensive so someone used a public funding effort to scan the documents and put them online.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z42sClWyqhU

Corbett found the efforts to get Saddam to attack Syria back in the 1980s.

Posted by: Curtis | Feb 9, 2017 5:36:53 PM | 19

@18 curtis

and on top of it all the murderers, the dealers in death, devastation, and destruction at the cia are spending all the money, taking up all the room, and breathing all the air where an intelligence agency ought to be.

and the murderers, the dealers in death, devastation, and destruction at the pentagon are no damn good either. we don't need a standing army in fortress north america. wall street needs one to dominate the world. we at least ought to call it the war department. they changed the name when they created the cia.

Posted by: jfl | Feb 9, 2017 5:46:23 PM | 20

Thanks for a great overview of the conflict in Yemen. Syria gets the headlines, and I must admit that I haven't taken the time to understand Yemen as well as I should.

It turns out that an understanding of Yemen is crucial to an understanding of the whole 'game'!

However, I'm skeptical of claims that Houthi receive no support, whatsoever from anyone. Such claims were also make of Dunbas rebels. Well the Dunbas rebels did get some support (even if it wasn't as much as they would like).

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Bravo b for standing up for the downtrodden. Sadly, civilians are afterthoughts in this 'game' of elites.

The civilized world recognized human rights because when elites are allowed to treat the poorest and most unfortunate like garbage, they are more likely to treat EVERYONE that way.

First they came for ...

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Feb 9, 2017 5:46:48 PM | 21

If Trump had any sense, and if he really wants to bring some good things back to America (or cull the bad ones at least), it should be obviouy by now that he has to use the Army/Pentagon to purge the CIA, the way the Templars were purged.

Posted by: CluelessJoe | Feb 9, 2017 6:03:14 PM | 22

While living in Pensacola Beach, Florida, I would have a beer at a little beach bar, where I met a gentleman who worked as a consultant on embassy security. He had been a marine assigned to security at embassies before leaving and establishing his own company. We had many conversations over time since I traveled extensively he showed an interest. He told me US embassies were not intended to be the representation of the US to the host country, but as a base to further US political interest, corporate interest and security interest (i.e. CIA). No doubt, this can be said of other countries as well, but what he told me next totally surprised me. He suggested if I was ever in a country during a major coup or social upheaval, I should never go to the US embassy. He suggested I go to the Canadian embassy saying I was unable to reach the US embassy. He said the Canadians would get me out of the country with their own people. The most shocking thing he told me was the most important thing for the US is policy. If coming to my aid in a country jeopardizes any ongoing US policy, then expect no help from US authorities, I would be on my own. He suggested I read up on Americans caught up in the coup against Salvadore Allende by Agusto Pinochet in Chile, which I did. It was obvious that US policy trumps people, since the coup was engineered by the US. The life of foreign nationals is only a concern to the US if it furthers the goals of US policy. It appears even American lifes have become an expendable quantity along with 500,000 children in Iraq.

Posted by: Dick | Feb 9, 2017 6:09:06 PM | 23

The attitude b alludes to is very longstanding and was very prevalent during the "Scramble for Africa" period of European Imperialism, which built on similar attitudes to Slavery and Serfdom that preceded it. In Asia, there wasn't any Golden Age of beneficence for the common people who were also subjected to European Imperialism and indigenous Warlordism, debt peonage, caste hierarchies and other methods of keeping the poor in their place of powerlessness. Time's passed and new technological trinkets litter the landscape, but has the plight of the majority of humans on the planet actually improved since the end of WW2? 8 white men control as much wealth as 3.6+ Billion people, perhaps the most obscene, pornographic statistic of all time. Until the planet's economic and social systems reverse that obscenity, the plight of Yemenis and billions of others will never improve. That's why the rage against Communism was so pronounced as it promised to alter the global system to the betterment of all instead of helping just 8--nevermind that Communism would've had a difficult time delivering as it's the effort that was put toward its destruction that's important for this discussion.

Perhaps the oncoming ecocide/overshoot is the only mechanism that will alter the situation radically enough to make a long term difference in how society and its economy are organized as I don't see any countervailing power with the necessary magnitude to do the job being generated by the global masses. Nor do I think that dismantling the Outlaw US Empire's global power structure will be enough, although that would be a good start. I think of HG Well's Time Machine and its dystopia, wondering if he'll be proven more correct than even he thought, and much sooner.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 9, 2017 6:14:11 PM | 24

From before birth Americans are immersed in the twin propaganda machines, the media and education, to believe what is now called 'Exceptionalism' (but was once called Manifest Destiny) to rule the world as a benevolent emperor, and that things (stuff, whether junk or money) is the sole measure of success.

The real question is: is that the real, true, unequivocal nature of Americans? I would argue that it is ... more to the point, it is so prevalent, so pervasive, that the Americans on this blog rally against it being so ... and the non-Americans assume that Americanism is to be copied and supported.

Sad, but true.

So, now for the rants attempting to prove me wrong.

Posted by: rg the lg | Feb 9, 2017 6:41:28 PM | 25

The raid wasn't planned by two presidents. It was planned by the US military. They presented it to Obama a while back who apparently decided not to run with it and left it as a landmine for Trump. 'Gungho' Trump fell for it hook, line and sinker. In typical US SF fashion, the whole thing turned into a fiasco, and kaboom, lots of innocent blood all over Trump's hands (metaphorically speaking).

Posted by: Anonymous | Feb 9, 2017 6:42:20 PM | 26

rg the lg @25--

I wrote the post just above yours and have railed against Manifest Destiney and Exceptionalism all my life, both inside and out of the classroom and in my political pursuits. I'd posit my post proves your assertion 100% wrong. You had plenty of time to read and digest it prior to writing yours.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 9, 2017 6:53:41 PM | 27

@24 karlof, 'I think of HG Well's Time Machine and its dystopia ...'

i haven't read time machine, but the aliens in their tripods in war of the worlds bear a chilling resemblance to oBomber's and tRump's drone/jsoc warfare. and the minions of the tncs are surely aliens ... alienated from the earth, human society, and life itself by the corporate ethos. slaves of their corporations. it truly does seem an open question whether the aliens or humans will inherit planet earth.

Posted by: jfl | Feb 9, 2017 6:55:51 PM | 28

I read here people referring to residents on the Donbass as "rebels". Why this ptejorative term?
What are these people now labeled "rebels" "rebelling" against. ?????
They want to separate their region form th the US-sponsored coup installation of an illegitimate "government" based in Keiv. Rather than "rebells" the residents of this region, with their legitimate desire for self-government of this autonomous region should be called "freedom fighters" NEVER "rebels".

Posted by: Don Bass | Feb 9, 2017 7:04:33 PM | 29

Does anyone remember the sorta fictionalised scene in "The Good Shepherd" of a conversation between an ersatz Lucky Luciano and an ersatz James Jesus Angleton?
Angleton has dropped into Cuba just before Castro is about to toss out all the amerikan gangsters. He's gone there to elicit 'mafia' assistance in fighting Castro. Luciano sort of agrees but you can see on one level (prolly his prole roots) the plan deeply offends him so he says to Angleton "We (Italian Americans) have got our families and food, the Irish have family and the Homeland, hell even the niggers have got their music, but what have you people got?"
Angleton fixes him with a cold look and says "we have the United States of America, the rest of you are just visitors".
The CIA can pretend to hire diversity, the token players let in are always suborned to the cause, but the CIA is the last bastion of the WASP it always will be and will never change, they don't care how many children die in Yemen or anywhere else 'out there in the world' because in their eyes none of the 'others' are people, they are just things to be used then discarded.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Feb 9, 2017 7:07:27 PM | 30

@ Curtis 17: "And it is strange how the Rwanda genocide is used for the new R2P logic. They claim they are preventing death and destruction by causing more of the same. Pure hypocrisy and Americans are supposed to hate such things"

I was always alert when the US was making allegations Assard had used chemical weapons and had "gassed his own people". The hysteria in the CIA assets - the Washington Post and NYT grew deafening and I fully expected to see R2P being cited and used to justify a full US attack on Syria . But " they" decided to create ISIS to do the job instead.
And who is "they" - why not ask John MCCain. Ask him about that happy holiday snap of him in Syria with his band of ISIS brothers

Posted by: Don Bass | Feb 9, 2017 7:16:11 PM | 31

douglas valentine, the phoenix program


"I have described the intelligence service as a socially acceptable way of expressing criminal tendencies," [Nelson Brickham] said. "A guy who has strong criminal tendencies -- but is too much of a coward to be one -- would wind up in a place like the CIA if he had the education."

Posted by: jfl | Feb 9, 2017 7:46:05 PM | 32

At the end of the 30 year war in Europe that insight was enshrined in international law. But the valuable experience, paid with blood and devastation, has been discarded.

because then it affected europeans. now it affects the darkies and who gives a damn about those people (unless they're dictators with oil, obviously). it's the same post-vietnam, post-conscription mentality that throws scores of takfiris and mujahideens into the cauldron because their lives are cheaper than "ours". i'd be fine with using morons as cannon fodder if, like you said, the civilians didn't take the brunt of the damage. "war is how americans learn geography" but if they have no skin in the game don't expect concern or even acknowledgement in the daily news.

Posted by: the pair | Feb 9, 2017 8:05:30 PM | 33

I see ... well Karlof1 ... when I posted, #22 was the current post to be read. Yours was apparently still being moderated I guess.

I am not 100% wrong ... 99% or less, about the same as you ...

Posted by: rg the lg | Feb 9, 2017 8:10:56 PM | 34

Don Bass @31

Yes. Not rebels.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Feb 9, 2017 8:21:56 PM | 35

Sometimes when the despair of the awful and unlikely to end in the foreseeable future, horror that Yemenis suffer becomes too overwhelming I go to YouTube enter 'Houthi' in the search box and bring up all the vids of the last week as a way to divert from the reality most Yemenis are enduring by watching their indomitable warriors resisting the wahabi apostate butchers, reducing the dreams of Bandar et al to an unruly ill-disciplined mob of cowards fleeing their crimes leaving millions of dollars of tech weaponry behind which the warriors then disdainfully destroy.
It is a vicarious and essentially worthless pastime, but what else is there to do? I'm too old to usefully get into that fight and it is impossible to envisage any sort of victory for the people of Yemen, which has been sliced and diced by imperialists for centuries.
Many comparisons are made between the Houthi and the Vietcong, and it is true that both groups fought and defeated an enemy which was much better equipped with greater numbers of 'boots on the ground', however unlike the Vietnamese the Yemenis have no allies in high places. There is no other nation prepared to stand up for the people of Yemen, for any reason, self-interested or idealistic.
It pains me to say it, but I just cannot envisage any sort of long term victory for Yemenis, whether or not there are 'vast' untapped resources in Yemen, it is in everyone else's best interest to ensure Yemen remains a failed state incapable of having any say in Yemeni destiny.
With no one outside to support them and Yemenis seemingly too intransigent to ever bow to the man, Yemen appears bound to continue as an abattoir for greedy foreigners to indulge themselves with a spot of mass murder.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Feb 9, 2017 8:33:15 PM | 36

Following up @21

First they came for . . . our humanity.

'Exceptionalism', commercialism, etc. breed conformity. Conformity is group love and love is never having to say you're sorry. Thoughtless conformity is pernious. TPTB relish herding us into cages of our own making.

Rg the Lg's 'same as it ever was' defeatism is an example. It makes the safety of conformity appealing. Don't go quietly into that good night! Rail against the dying of the light!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Feb 9, 2017 8:45:56 PM | 37

When b first wrote of this doomed mission I questioned if the mission had been deliberately betrayed. Now b has reason to believe that it was.

As before, I think it's important to ask what the objective of such a betrayal might be. I think it plausible, at least, that the aim was to capture one or more US servicemen. That could lead to Trump's impeachment and/or make the Saudis so important (their knowledge and connection could help to free the hostages) that they could exert a strong influence on the Trump Administreation

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Feb 9, 2017 9:03:17 PM | 38

@36 did, 'It pains me to say it, but I just cannot envisage any sort of long term victory for Yemenis ...'

if there is to be a change from the unipolar world to a multipolar world, and if the russians and chinese see the benefits from such a change, wouldn't it behoove them, together, to make a stand in the unsc on behalf of the houthis? unlike the palestinians the houthis are unencumbered by an 'untouchable' enemy. they could force the frukus to embrace the great satan, openly, to be marked with the '666', rally the great majority of the earth's nations to the side of the houthis, and so to hasten the empire's decline.

but perhaps russia and china feel the collapse of the us/eu is inevitable, part of the political 'evolution' they were brought up for decades to accept as fate, and so feel they can 'afford' to allow the houthis to go under? that it will not affect their 'national' interests, one way or the other? and so that it is just not worth exerting themselves for?

it is not only in the west that inhumanity reigns.

Posted by: jfl | Feb 9, 2017 9:25:59 PM | 39

@38 jr, 'That could lead to Trump's impeachment and/or ...'

your point is plausible. it points out just how unready 'donald the unready' really is to govern. any human would have called a halt to the drone program and/or jsoc's up-close and personal assassinations, and on that basis alone have avoided exposure to such plots and counterplots and demise, for ... what? for the uae? putting humanity first would put americans, as a part of humanity, first. donald the unready is just another transnational corporate slave. there is to be no hope from 'leaders' until we have elected free men and women from among ourselves to represent us, and to follow our directions.

Posted by: jfl | Feb 9, 2017 9:34:48 PM | 40

either the usa and saudi arabia are going to part ways, or we are going to have a continuation of al qaeda and isis support by one or the other, while the other claims to know nothing of this aspect of their fellow bed mate... meanwhile ordinary folks are picking it up and paying attention..

Posted by: james | Feb 9, 2017 9:36:00 PM | 41

Not exactly OT,
its about murkkan shenanigans in Africa.....

In the movie 'black hawk down', there's a scene where a downed murkkan black hawk pilot was dragged thru the town by 'insurgents'.
at the end of the show, some murkkans were heard muttering,
'today I feel like kicking some black ass'. !
thats how holywood helps to rile up public hatred towards anyone
one the 'official enemy list'.

http://www.somaliaonline.com/community/topic/a-look-back-the-u-s-intervention-in-somalia/

Did b says 'foreign greed' ?

'These are embarrassing facts to point out to those who insist that the U.S. intervention was benevolent in nature. Embarrassing because it was not designed after all to stop a famine, or to clean up a mess agribussiness or our previous foriegn policies had created. The U.S. ruling class had other motives in mind. In fact, it had oil on its mind.

During the U.S. intervention in Somalia, a very embarrassing expose waspublished in the Los Angeles Times about the relationship of oil to the Somalia events. CBS News and the San Francisco Chronicle also confirmed that prior to the outbreak of the civil war, when Somalia was ruled by the U.S.-backed Siad Barre dictatorship, four major U.S. oil corporations were granted and purchased oil leases to explore Somalia's newly-discovered oil resources. Nearly two-thirds of Somalia's land surface was granted to Conoco, Amoco, Chevron and Philips Petroleum.

................................

"Conoco even permitted its Mogadishu corporate compound to be transformed into a de facto American embassy a few days before the U.S. Marines landed in the capital."

http://www.somaliaonline.com/community/topic/a-look-back-the-u-s-intervention-in-somalia/

Posted by: denk | Feb 9, 2017 9:46:10 PM | 42

@jfl 32

Why can't we be friends
Why can't we be friends
Why can't we be friends
Why can't we be friends

I know you're working for the CIA
They wouldn't have you in the mafia

War, Why Can't We Be Friends

Posted by: ran | Feb 9, 2017 9:46:25 PM | 43

Nearly 1080 days have passed since beginning of Nato backed Nazi genocide in the south and eastern portion of the Russian territory occasionally called the ukraine. About 40 days to go and that 1080 magic number is complete.

Posted by: Izaates bar Monobazues | Feb 9, 2017 9:48:28 PM | 44

@ ran | Feb 9, 2017 9:46:25 PM | 43

Another attempt at snitch jacketing. Get a real job.

Posted by: blues | Feb 9, 2017 10:11:56 PM | 45

Snitch jacketing? Wtf is that?

Posted by: ran | Feb 9, 2017 10:17:24 PM | 46

US-based geologists have found huge untapped recoverable oil and gas reserves in Yemen. Ergo, sum. Posted by: Even More Outraged Ji | Feb 9, 2017 4:03:56 PM | 12

I think that b is closer to the "real explanation". Of course, when wars are concerned, there is always a number of independent justifications, and if you probe deeper, they are not entirely convincing. One reason is that war is its own justification. There is a class of people that simply like wars. So they interpret geological news, tenets of religion, writings of ancient Greek philosophers and what not to justify wars. For a royal, the pleasure of winning a war cannot be simply substituted what a harem full of comely girl, tons of captagon or other pleasures that money can buy.

In the Western world the war in Yemen is justified rather perfunctorily. Few people care, a bit more people are in touch with the stream of money for weapons, friendly publicity etc. so they produce some clap trap. And the princes spent many billions of weapons, and, even better, selecting very overpriced and lucrative ones. That automatically leads to the support from weapon companies which, in turn, are employers of retired general, so active duty generals have an interest in the future employers being fat and happy. Some scraps go to think tankers and other flacks.

To refute "untapped oil and gas reserves" as motivation, Yemen would cheerfully give the access to those reserves, as it was the case with already documented oil and gas. And the true movers are the Saudis who really do not need to seek "untapped reserves" in Yemen. Perhaps a little bit of mayhem in Yemen, Libya, Iraq and Syria does lessen the glut of oil, but the waste of funds is so enormous that it is hard to make these war "pay for themselves".

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Feb 9, 2017 11:06:01 PM | 47

Very informative piece.

Muslim allies of Saudi Arabia piled pressure on UN chief Ban Ki-moon over the blacklisting of a Saudi-led coalition for killing children in Yemen, with Riyadh threatening to cut Palestinian aid and funds to other UN programs, according to diplomatic sources.

Palestinians might be interested to know how easily their Saudi patrons are ready to throw them under the bus to hide their crimes against the Yemeni and every other chance they get. No doubt they've already thrown them under the bus with Zionists. That must be why Netanyahu is so pleased with himself lately for having improved relations with his Arab neighbors: al-Sissi, Abdullah and the Saudi dictators. All traitors and collaborators.

The Saudis can not defeat them. Together with their U.S. and British allies they have therefore decided on a follow a genocidal strategy. They cut off the country, which usually imports up to 90% of its basic food needs, from the outside world. Saudi ships patrol the coast and the land borders are mostly under Saudi control. Only smugglers and the few official UN convoys provide some relief. But this is obviously far from enough. The ten-thousands "excess death" are a direct consequence of the U.S.-Saudi blockade.

It's encouraging to see the word genocide used to describe Zio-imperial strategy. Since Zionists moved to Palestine what has happened in the Middle East in Palestine, Lebanon, Iraq, Libya, Syria and Yemen is the slaughter of Muslims on a massive scale. It's a current, ongoing genocidal assault.

Calling this punishing deprivation and brutal campaign against Yemen what it really is might direct global attention to this U.S./Saudi-engineered famine and slaughter.

Posted by: Circe | Feb 9, 2017 11:13:58 PM | 48

the pair @ 33 said: " "war is how americans learn geography" but if they have no skin in the game don't expect concern or even acknowledgement in the daily news."

Sad, but true.

DiD @ 36 said> "it is in everyone else's best interest to ensure Yemen remains a failed state incapable of having any say in Yemeni destiny."

If by " everyone else's" best interests", you mean the monsters in the Corporate Empire, you're right. In the Empire's eyes, a failed state isn't about to harvest their natural resources for the improvement in the lives of the locals.

Posted by: ben | Feb 9, 2017 11:56:39 PM | 49

Black Hawk Up

'It's also no secret that defense executives tend to be well-connected politically. Why should we allow guys who play golf with top government officials to have personal profit motives for continuing the war -- or getting into new ones?'

Trump has *General Dynamics* mattis as sec/offense
and *Exxon* teresson as sec/state.
Its all out in the open 'they' dont even bother to hide it anymore !
Yet Not a peep from the trumpsters,
'but at least Trump is nice to PUtin no ?' , they insist !
hhhhhhhhh

http://www.alternet.org/story/40962/blatantly_boasting_war_profiteers

Posted by: denk | Feb 10, 2017 12:13:46 AM | 50

Another great post from Moon Over Alabama that gives more information on Yemen than NYTimes and WaPo combined, isn't that amusing? Here's some backgrounder ;)
SCENESETTER FOR MOB COMMENTARIAT:
1) Any understanding of Yemen today requires understanding the role of Ali Abdullah Saleh over the past few decades; from the fall of the USSR to the Iraq Gulf War II (i.e. Gulf War I being the Iran-Iraq war, Gulf War II being the one overseen by GWH Bush, Gulf War III being the WMD bullshit disaster of 2003)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Abdullah_Saleh

2) With the outbreak of the rather unexpect Arab Spring in Tunisia, the Middle East and North African population clearly thought that their chance to replace authoritarian and apartheid regimes in the Middle East and North Africa had finally come. CIA entirely failed to predict this; complete blindsiding of the U.S. foreign policy apparatus. Serious threats to the continuity of Arab monarchies rapidly developed in Bahrain, etc. Egyptian military dictatorship under serious threat. Worries that this could lead to a Iranian Shah situation in Saudi Arabia. Covert action to support Arab monarchies immediately developed; Israeli and U.S. support delivered.

1. (S/NF) WASHINGTON ANALYSTS ARE INTERESTED IN IRANIAN PRESENCE AND ACTIVITIES IN YEMEN, AND POSSIBLE CONNECTIONS TO UNREST THERE, IN RESPONSE TO POLICYMAKER INTEREST. AS POSTS' TIME AND RESOURCES PERMIT, ANY FURTHER INFORMATION ON IRAN'S RELATIONSHIP WITH AND INTENTIONS TOWARD THE GOVERNMENT, HUTHI REBELS, AND/OR THE SECESSIONIST GROUPS IN THE SOUTH WOULD BE VERY VALUABLE, AS WOULD INFORMATION ON CULTURAL, BUSINESS, AND RELIGIOUS TIES BETWEEN THE TWO COUNTRIES, PARTICULARLY AS IT RELATES TO THE QUESTIONS BELOW. MANY THANKS. - Date:2009 August 17, 20:58
Ah, that would be the Hillary Clinton State Department request, wouldn't it? https://search.wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/09STATE85632_a.html

3) The U.S. found a plausible Yemeni puppet leader around this time:

Hamid al-Ahmar comes across as a confident, polished interlocutor and speaks fluent English, despite having been to the U.S. only twice, as a teenager. He is the most ambitious of the 10 sons of the late Sheikh Abdullah al-Ahmar, evidenced by his increasingly frequent public appearances. His disgust with President Saleh, whom he alternately refers to as "the devil" and "the greedy one," is palpable and frequently expressed in conversations

https://search.wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/09SANAA1617_a.html
Unfortunately, this is another Hillary Clinton plan that didn't work out so well:
"Hamid al-Ahmar is a Yemeni multimillionaire businessman and politician currently living in exile after fleeing Yemen during the Houthi takeover of Sana'a September 2014."
4) In 2009, Iran's role in Yemen was quite liimited:
1. (S/NF) SUMMARY. Despite repeated ROYG accusations of Tehran's material and financial support to the Houthi rebels in Sa'ada and increasingly belligerent media exchanges between Yemen and Iran, Iranian influence in Yemen has thus far been limited to informal religious ties between Yemeni and Iranian scholars and negligible Iranian investment in the energy and development sectors.

5) The House of Saud attack on the Houthi tribal group began in early Nov 2009:
SAUDI AIRSTRIKES AT YEMEN BORDER
. . .the tribes living in that area consider it Yemeni even if it is officially Saudi. Furthermore, while the members of the tribe whose territory straddles the two countries identify first and foremost with their tribe, they identify secondly as Yemenis, not Saudis - regardless of which side of the border they live on. . . .

6) It appears the Saudis launched this war over fear of regional tribal rebellions that might threaten their own domestic grip on power. The consequences?
Yemeni analysts fear that military action by Saudi Arabia is creating a regional, sectarian war that will lead to direct Iranian involvement. . . As Yemen's neighbors rush to offer the ROYG additional weapons and munitions, Iranian officials denounce the Saudi strikes and are calling for Islamic states to defend innocent Shi'a from ROYG and SAG attacks.

If you wish to review the Manning Cablegate search results on "Yemen" SECRET/NOFORN up to about Feb 2010:
https://search.wikileaks.org. . .
Go on, click on that link! Oh and don't worry about NSA surveillance; the mere fact that you've read this far means you're already on the list. ;) And if this bothers you, just recall everyone who fought and died face down in the mud so you could have the right to read this, without anyone kicking down your door in the middle of the night.

Posted by: nonsense factory | Feb 10, 2017 12:32:07 AM | 51

47

No. Uh-uh. Sorry PB. Saudis are LOSING in Yemen, but still persisting at great cost, and are now adopting all-out GENOCIDE because Saudis want control of the Yemeni oil and gas reserves by any means, with full access by US and UK oil drillers and pump station builders.

It's the same as Israel's genocide in Gaza. Has nothing to do with Arab versus Jew. That's the shiney object to get more rabbinical funding. It's about the offshore gas reserves that they're stealing from Gaza, with the help of UK, and plan to steal from Syria and Lebanon and Egypt.

Yemen war today is Afghanistan TAPI war yesterday. Read “Afghanistan as an Empty Space: the Perfect Neo-Colonial State of the 21st Century” by Marc Herold. This has absolutely NOTHING to do with Sunni versus Shi'ia, or Jew versus Arab voodoo! That's pure hog swallup. This is GWOMO: Global War Over Moar Oil.

Posted by: Even More Outraged Ji | Feb 10, 2017 12:34:55 AM | 52

Thanks for the posting b. I am glad to see you calling out the bought circus of the UN for the R2P of the world obfuscation cover it has provided for the US empire over the decades.

The realignment and cohesion of nations in direct confrontation of American "greed and delusion that kills xxxxxx children" hegemony is long overdue and almost to the tipping point. If the conflicts brewing internationally don't kill us all in the near term, they may quicken the pace to a better way (no private finance) or further calcification of our parasite within a parasite species vector.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 10, 2017 2:11:36 AM | 53

It is definitely time to drain the swamp. People are full of hope.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vcd-yvudYSg

Posted by: hope and change | Feb 10, 2017 3:24:56 AM | 54

@8
one of the finest and erudite comments i've read at this site in the last couple of years

Posted by: m56 | Feb 10, 2017 5:25:45 AM | 55

Reply to jackrabbit @38

>When b first wrote of this doomed mission I questioned if the mission had been deliberately betrayed. Now b has reason to believe that it was.<

I think it was to "blood" Trump. He know has the blood of children, women and his soldiers on his soul.

Posted by: Don Bass | Feb 10, 2017 6:30:48 AM | 56

What do you mean by this post:
Nearly 1080 days have passed since beginning of Nato backed Nazi genocide in the south and eastern portion of the Russian territory occasionally called the ukraine. About 40 days to go and that 1080 magic number is complete.

Posted by: Izaates bar Monobazues | Feb 9, 2017 9:48:28 PM | 44

Posted by: Don Bass | Feb 10, 2017 6:35:12 AM | 57

@40 jfl
Re trump "putting humanity first"
Trump himself has said he supports torture. He believes torture "works".
So, so much for his "humanity"

Posted by: Don Bass | Feb 10, 2017 6:41:41 AM | 58

karlof1 says:

Perhaps the oncoming ecocide/overshoot is the only mechanism that will alter the situation radically enough to make a long term difference in how society and its economy are organized as I don't see any countervailing power with the necessary magnitude to do the job being generated by the global masses

if the tribes of Yemen can weather this dark eon of psychopathy(they will), its resource depleted residuum will proffer few new challenges.

i'd say that at least some of them are very well perched, geographically, technologically, and spiritually, to endure for centuries to come.

Posted by: john | Feb 10, 2017 7:58:55 AM | 59

There is much truth to what you say. However, there is another aspect to what is happening in Yemen which deserves attention. Specifically, their sky-high fertility rate. Remember, as economists from Benjamin Franklin and John Stuart Mills to John Maynard Keynes and Ma Yinchu pointed out, it's not the number of people so much as the rate of increase (i.e, do people have more children than they can support or not). Like Syria, Yemen is arid and has little fresh water: it has effectively run out. Sure, in the long run there could be nuclear reactors running water desalination plants, but that's expensive and not relevant to Yemen today. "The more the merrier" doesn't mean that more people can create fresh water from sand, sorry, that doesn't work. All those bombs dropped on Yemen, stupid as that was, have done little more than make the rubble bounce. I mean, India hasn't been bombed, and there are half a billion chronically malnourished people living there...

Posted by: TG | Feb 10, 2017 8:35:17 AM | 60

My guess is, the war will continue for a year or two, and then compromise will be reached which will largely satisfy Saudis (they cant go on indefinitely due to a very high budget deficit). Of course, several millions people will be dead by then, followed by smirk of war banshee a la Albright "it was well worth it."

The UN wont do anything whatsoever due to US and co influence. They will shed few crocodile tears but wont (or even cant) stop the Axis of Terror.

P.S. Iranians could make the war end by supplying advanced anti-ship missiles to sink ALL Saudis/UAE ships, SAMs to make bombing campaign much more costly, and precision ballistic missiles to turn oil plants and ports to ruble. Saudis wouldnt be able to continue the war in Yemen (or Syria for that matter).

Sadly, this dream wont happen either, Iranians wont risk the war vs Axis of Terror, snapped back sanctions and economic blockade, again. Nobody else even care much, neither Russia nor China will move a finger to end the war against Yemen. EU? Please.

Posted by: Harry | Feb 10, 2017 8:47:27 AM | 61

Posted by: jfl | Feb 9, 2017 9:34:48 PM | 40
(...how unready 'donald the unready' really is to govern. any human would have called a halt to the blah, blah blah...)

Oh ye of little faith.
If one assumes that Trump meant what he first said on becoming POTUS, about returning control of the USG to The People, then one may safely assume that the Deep State, and TPTB are on Red Alert.

That's a big move on Trump's part, not to mention risky. Any member of the Peanut Gallery who expected him to play anything other than a double game while he confirms or rearranges his assumptions, knows nothing about organisations and even less about power games.

He put himself forward as the Drain the Swamp candidate and he'll drain the swamp, or die trying. And considering that we live in an exceptional world, full of (previously) expendable people, he hasn't put a foot wrong yet.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 10, 2017 8:51:13 AM | 62

re 17

The Sunni vs Shia thing is real but is just a surface played tactic.
Classic remark by an American who's never been near the Middle East, but is ready to pontificate.

Posted by: Laguerre | Feb 10, 2017 9:40:59 AM | 63

The Saudis and UAE are already fighting over the spoils in Yemen while the people there starve.

Iran can't get involved in helping Yemen except in a very limited way since Trump is applying U.S. tyranny again in incremental doses. Trump is already escalating hostility against Iran every day.

This is a case like Russia overtly helping the separatist militia in Donbass whose leadership are gradually being decapitated with the help of the CIA and Mossad in collaboration with Ukrainian Nazis. Meanwhile the citizens of Donbass are suffering a Ukrainian assault in the middle of winter. If Russia throws them a lifeline right now, U.S. tyranny will rain down on Russia.

This is how U.S. operates. They supply the bombs that are killing the most disadvantaged to favor the greedy and deluded and ensure the Empire's global domination via its vassal states.

Here's how obsessed Trump is with Iran. Yesterday Kelly Ann Conway was on Fox talking about her meeting with Trump wherein she apologized for the ethics violation promoting Ivanka's wares, and when asked by Fox reporter what they discussed: So you spoke about that matter and he doesn't have any intention to suspend you? she replied this: We spoke about Iranian matters and he supports me 100% in fact it was a very heartening moment...

Notice the deflection towards Iran. I was stunned at how she dragged Iran into that conversation. I had to rewind my dvr twice to be sure and that's exactly what she said and that's exactly what she said. Unbelievable. So now Iran should take the fall for Conway's ethics faux pas as well. If this administration gets into real trouble watch them attack Iran to rally support and create a grand distraction.

Iran-Iran-Iran; that's all this administration obsesses about.

Posted by: Circe | Feb 10, 2017 10:26:39 AM | 64

'Same as it always was' is NOT defeatism. It is a cry in the wilderness to attempt to get people to realize that the problems run deep ... are NOT limited to the recent past ... are, sadly, almost part of the DNA of Americans.

Unless and until (neither likely nor possible) we can acknowledge that what we are doing in other countries we did at home ... or what we claimed as home. That is not to say that our settler nation is unique, but rather that until we can ask: 'where were we' in our dismal past, and attempt to change our deeply encrusted way of looking at the world, nothing will change.

Yes, I come off as hopeless, especially when people refuse to acknowledge that 'we are complicit.'

Posted by: rg the lg | Feb 10, 2017 10:37:47 AM | 65

Dick 23
Embassies used to push corporate agendas. Check. And they're also used for spying operations. You're right that others do this, too. Witness the tit-for-tat of US vs Soviets years ago. But the US dominates in this regard. Iran called the US embassy there a nest of spies. I pulled up one document and whoa, there's L. Paul Bremer III'S ("Esquire") name at the top.
https://web.archive.org/web/20060329145959/http://www.thememoryhole.com/espionage_den/espionage_den01.pdf">http://www.thememoryhole.com/espionage_den/espionage_den01.pdf">https://web.archive.org/web/20060329145959/http://www.thememoryhole.com/espionage_den/espionage_den01.pdf
My preliminary look shows some documentation of US efforts to actually kiss up to Khomeini. Of course, some of this shows the duplicity of Khomeini, too.

Posted by: Curtis | Feb 10, 2017 10:42:52 AM | 66

Woven into the nature of the entire dilemma is the how and why of information dispersal and the forming of public opinions as to whether they're caring or not. The linked essay has an interesting discussion about which author detiling future dystopias was more correct--Orwell or Huxley--when we look at the state of things today, with the verdict being Huxley. I looked to see if the essay was published elsewhere since I don't really want to help the website that banned me from commenting, but apparently it isn't and it really ought to be read since the author's points are quite correct, IMO. So, I hope those clicking the link find the essay as satisfying as I--I even think b will appreciate it, http://www.commondreams.org/views/2017/02/10/fake-news-not-new-and-huxley-not-orwell-messenger

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 10, 2017 11:48:29 AM | 67

Thread deviated in part as has become usual….from Yemen to ‘oppo’ .. going with flow.. >

The ‘protests’ in the US are actioneered by various NGOs (etc.) who are beholden to certain
spheres of power for their status / legitimacy / funding. (Soros in the news, but not only, by a long shot.)
The protests aren’t genuine, in the sense of springing from any concerted effort (or a sloppy one)
in any direction to influence events, by the ‘ppl’.

Protests have become an empty ritual of modern life and carefully obey a whole heap of rules.

Imho, the PTB use them thru media exposure to influence general opinion (*in the W*), that is their unique function.
The PTB surely understand the contradiction of protesting - note, always against, never FOR, this or that
- and no real change ever being achieved. (See Iraq, world....) The ‘color revolution’ moves actually put the public
aka Joe + Jane Six in a subservient, manipulated position. While letting them feel they are ‘engaged’, ‘on the side of right’, etc.

RIP Guy Debord (>The Society of the Spectacle.)

When I read that protests were taking place in airports re. Trump’s ‘travel ban’, a first fleeting thought, was, yes,
that sound more legitimate, pointed, heartfelt, or innaresting (Women’s march protesting Trump was clearly nonsensical)
but…no. Efforts were made to help those ‘stranded’ - positive, for sure, ‘caring’ etc. However no moves to disrupt or
change anything was made by protestors. No show of real outrage or any kind of determination.
Or even, I hazard, organisation, except from ‘above.’

One aim for ex. would have been to shut down a major airport. Which can be accomplished easily with few ppl and
in a completely non-violent fashion. Not contemplated, the only point is to show up and ‘demonstrate’ or ‘help others’,
such as those affected right there and then. The system is not questioned, it is just accepted that some victims ‘deserve support.’
(Social identity, slice and dice, sob for a few, etc.)

Yemeni (Iraq, etc.) children are not a topic of concern, etc. etc.

Posted by: Noirette | Feb 10, 2017 12:52:04 PM | 68

@TG Yes, under the present dispensation where to stay on top an empire must fund war through debt, it would certainly appear there's too many (other)people.

Posted by: ruralito | Feb 10, 2017 1:18:09 PM | 69

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-immigration-wall-exclusive-idUSKBN15O2ZN
WASHINGTON President Donald Trump’s “wall” along the U.S.-Mexico border would be a series of fences and walls that would
cost as much as $21.6 billion, and take more than three years to construct, based on a U.S. Department of Homeland Security
internal report seen by Reuters on Thursday.
The report’s estimated price-tag is much higher than a $12-billion figure cited by Trump in his campaign and estimates as high
as $15 billion from Republican House Speaker Paul Ryan and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.

Posted by: okie farmer | Feb 10, 2017 2:22:08 PM | 70

@68 Curtis

I believe it's your link that widened the parameters of the page making the entire thread really difficult to read. Do you know how to use

Posted by: Circe | Feb 10, 2017 2:43:05 PM | 71

@68

Sorry something happened to the rest of my comment. I was asking if you know how to use html tags specifically the last one for shortening links?
Make sure you add the proper symbols at the beginning and end of your link then without leaving any space you give it a short name and finish off with the last symbols. Then instead of clicking on "post" click preview to ensure you created your link correctly. It should show up in red. Don't go to the link or you will lose what you posted. Then if it shows up in red, click post.

Posted by: Circe | Feb 10, 2017 2:49:39 PM | 72

Form those who do not know.
Givi has been assassinated by fascist Kiev regime perhaps under orders from US senators after they visited Kiev on New Year.

Funeral:

https://youtu.be/tYt1PtAlFh4

Scenes from the site of murder:

https://youtu.be/8Uo_qY0Pp0o?t=49

More on that on:
https://contrarianopinion.wordpress.com/ukrainian-war-update/


Posted by: Kalen | Feb 10, 2017 2:52:15 PM | 73

TG @ 62:

Where do you get this idea that Yemen has a "sky-high" fertility rate? In 2012, the country's fertility rate was 4.21 births per woman; in 2016 the fertility rate was 3.77 births per woman. The fertility rate may be high compared to those in Western countries but the trend is downward, as in most Middle Eastern countries. You can do Google searches and the information comes up readily.

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/yemen/fertility-rate-total-births-per-woman-wb-data.html

Posted by: Jen | Feb 10, 2017 3:03:33 PM | 74

Jen, of course, it's ludicrous to suggest birth rates increase in a war, if only because more pregnant woman are being killed.

Posted by: ruralito | Feb 10, 2017 3:23:35 PM | 75

...not to mention male impregnators.

Posted by: ruralito | Feb 10, 2017 3:25:59 PM | 76

re jen 76.

I don't think I have much faith in Yemeni statistics.
The information is uncollectable in the present circumstances.

Posted by: Laguerre | Feb 10, 2017 3:28:31 PM | 77

"One aim for ex. would have been to shut down a major airport. Which can be accomplished easily with few ppl and
in a completely non-violent fashion"

LOL, you're forgetting Kent State.

Posted by: ruralito | Feb 10, 2017 3:30:14 PM | 78

xyz @ 55..Thanks for the Assad interview link.

Posted by: ben | Feb 10, 2017 3:36:00 PM | 79

Much as though I agree with b's analyses - superb work -
going for Saudi desire for pipelines to Aden, or whichever
port on the Arabian sea, is a mistake. This war is about hatred,
the Saudi princes' h

Posted by: Laguerre | Feb 10, 2017 3:46:15 PM | 80

*the Saudi princes hatred of the Shi'a, assisted to a lesser
degree by the Gulf states. There is a very profound hatred
of the Shi'a who sit on their oil fields in the Eastern province.
It cannot be allowed. The princes will lose everything if liberty is
permitted.

I hate to repeat myself a hundred times, but it is the foundation
of the Yemen war, and indeed Syria.

Posted by: Laguerre | Feb 10, 2017 3:53:45 PM | 81

Bacevich:
. The truth of the matter is that America is killing people—terrorists and others—because its leaders don’t know what else to do.

Killing people and bombing things has become a substitute for policy and indeed for thinking. Where there should be strategy, there is a void. Will a president who looks to the likes of Steve Bannon and Michael Flynn for advice fill that void? I don’t think so.

The operative question is not: Why did last week’s raid in Yemen fail? Instead, it is: What are U.S. forces doing there in the first place? How, at this stage of the game, is further expansion of the conflict once known as the Global War on Terrorism advancing the basic security interests of the United States? All that Mr. Trump is doing is to embrace the legacy of his predecessors: perpetuating what has become an open-ended war of attrition.

http://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2017/02/why-are-us-forces-yemen-all/135265/

Posted by: mauisurfer | Feb 10, 2017 5:36:29 PM | 82

I understand that consistency is the hobgoblin of petty minds but if Trump is a tool of Saudi interests in Yemen, why has he been so predisposed to the Putin-Assad-Iran axis in Syria? Maybe it is about time to retire the Manichean axis of resistance geopolitical chess game way of thinking?

Posted by: Louis Proyect | Feb 10, 2017 9:24:44 PM | 83

Louis at 85:

b wrote the following in the final paragraph: "As so often in such conflicts the locals are mere pawns in games played by foreign countries." That's the opposite of "tool of Saudi interests."

As for trying to make sense of Trump's conflicting positions on different foreign policy matters: either (and most likely) Trump is confused, naive, and trying to keep a major campaign promise or he plans to move Russia into the Western camp, as any realpolitik sort would do for the West to have a chance of preventing China's rise to the top of world imperialism.

Posted by: fairleft | Feb 10, 2017 11:32:05 PM | 84

Posted by: fairleft | Feb 10, 2017 11:32:05 PM | 86
(Trump's either/or policy)

With due respect, I suspect the truth is much simpler than that.
It seems to me that Trump is attempting to rid International Dialogue of the idiotically juvenile Neocon meme "We don't talk to ter'rists" first spouted by Bush II.
In Trump's New (grown-up) World Order any entity, or group of entities, will be able to talk freely with any other entity or group. It will probably be necessary to break up the Media Monopolies in order for that scheme to work properly, but (it seems to me) He has already "put them on notice."

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 10, 2017 11:57:33 PM | 85

Kalen @ 75

Thanks.

Posted by: B2 | Feb 11, 2017 1:55:59 AM | 86

Trump's affirmations are not like Putin's. You cannot take what he says to the bank. Trump will speak out of six sides of his mouth, and every side is a bargaining chip or a pretend-bargaining chip. He is certainly devious, but that does not mean Trump is beyond comprehension. One has to understand him in terms of his basic values. Core among those is winning back his country for his countrymen, putting America and Americans first. You have to ask, what's first now. And it's pretty clear that it is Judaia, both in terms of foreign policy and in terms of finance. The 'Israel Lobby' (by no means restricted to the middle-east, as Nuland's activities show) and the Federal Reserve. What Trump wants to say and do are - directly - unsayable and undoable. So we have the chatter about appointing Bolton or Giuliani or now Abrams. The raid on Yemen is of a piece with that. All that has bought time while some of the right people have made it through confirmation hearings. The anti-Russia theme has been quite pronounced by Trump's security appointees. That was a price that was paid for the fact that Trump now has solid Christian military support. He will be better placed by the day to take on CIA/Judaic/Globalist fake terror. When it comes together as a fight against ISIS, Iran will be an ally and Saudi Arabia and the 'Sunni' monarchies a liability and foe. Israel will be pacified as a unitary state with Palestine or it will cease to exist. The 9/11 trump card is there, and a year ago, in the Republican debate in South Carolina, Trump declared he would let the truth come out. Either way, the American Jewish element will be absorbed into the American nation, no longer a source of internal national rot.

Posted by: sarz | Feb 11, 2017 6:37:59 AM | 87

Off topic.....this is specially for someone named Circe....

"First on CNN: Trump nixes Elliott Abrams for State Department job"


http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/10/politics/elliott-abrams-trump-state-department-tillerson/index.html


Courtesy interview
"First on CNN: Trump nixes Elliott Abrams for State Department job". I don't believe this monster was ever in the running. It is completely ridiculous to believe that Trump just learned of Abrams having acted against him in Trump's nomination run. Giving Abrams an interview is throwing a bone to Sheldon. A courtesy interview of a ridiculous candidate, like the ones Newt and Rudy got, is a signal that the supposed candidate is still 'in the loop', and increases future marketability as a Washington insider. People like Newt and Rudy make a good living off this kind of phony reputation as real Washington players. Next time he is up for negotiation, Abrams will get a bigger think-tank paycheck."

https://xymphora.blogspot.com/2017/02/courtesy-interview.html

Posted by: notlurking | Feb 11, 2017 7:27:43 AM | 88

@69 karlof

thanks for the link. i think we the 'public' are lost in the same maze whether we come in through orwell's or huxley's gate ...


- Orwell feared those who would ban books; Huxley feared there would be no reason to ban books because nobody would want to read one.

- Orwell feared those who would deprive us of information and conceal the truth; Huxley feared the truth would be drown in a sea of irrelevance.

- Orwell feared we would become a captive culture; Huxley feared would become a trivial culture.

- In 1984, people are controlled by inflicting pain; in Brave New World, people are controlled by inflicting pleasure.

- Orwell feared that what we hate will ruin us; Huxley feared that we will love what will ruin us.


... the idea that there is a subversion central enforcing a particular, exclusive means of our collective degradation is projection, i think. the whole approach of 'capitalism' - or whatever word you may use to describe our disease - is diversity. let a thousand flowers bloom, and nurture the most effective. both pathways to subversion are tended at the same time. some of us manage to follow both paths in succession, others to alternate between them. we are collectively caught on the horns of the dilemma. pinched and crushed, for example, between the google's huxley-hustle and the orwellian nsa.

Posted by: jfl | Feb 11, 2017 8:09:34 AM | 89

Circe 73
I will do that in the future. In the past I've hit the links of others that extended the page. I had no idea that even if they wrap for me, that they screwed things up for others. I'll keep that in mind in the future. For some reason the memoryhole link multiplied itself in the pasting.

Laguerre 65
Resident, Tehran, Iran 1970-1972
Tourist, Grece/Israel 1971
And I've been keeping up with the history and events in the area ever since.

Posted by: Curtis | Feb 11, 2017 8:25:17 AM | 90

I have become cynical. I consider the sudden humanitarian concern about Yemen a PR campaign for intervention. Same as the USS Cole at the Yemeni coast asking for an attack.

There is a Yemeni army? They seem to fight against Saudi and Saudi seems to be losing on the ground to the point where they are threatened within their borders.

Yemen said it wanted the UN to intervene to end the conflict.

That would be the Saudi backed internationally acknowledged government?

Posted by: somebody | Feb 11, 2017 9:46:40 AM | 91

@90

From your CNN link: Jared, Tillerson and Piebus wanted Abrams and the only reason Trump nixed him is
because Abrams criticized Trump in the primaries and when he was nominated. It still doesn't explain
why he considered Bolton. Don't you get it? If he's not talking out of both sides of his mouth, saying
one thing and doing another; why did he even consider someone like Bolton? No doubt if Abrams hadn't
been as critical as he was, he would have agreed with this choice.

Tillerson tried to convince Trump to make Abrams his deputy despite the criticism because he felt he needed his foreign policy experience, according to multiple sources. White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus and senior adviser Jared Kushner also strongly supported Abrams and urged Trump to reconsider, the sources said.

Posted by: Circe | Feb 11, 2017 10:43:30 AM | 92

Circe @94:

... because Abrams criticized Trump ...
That's a pretty dumb reason to nix an important appointment that your advisors supposedly wanted, isn't it? Maybe there's more going on here than meets the eye?

Top neocons Woolsey, Bolton, and Abrams have all been shown the door (figuratively speaking).

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Feb 11, 2017 11:09:49 AM | 93

@95 Amen..

Posted by: Lozion | Feb 11, 2017 12:07:01 PM | 94

jfl @91--

Thanks for your appraisal. While in university, I wrote an essay arguing a historian's goal ought to be the quest for objectivity regarding the subject of enquiry, all the while doing one's best to keep ideological filters from intruding and skewing one's objectiveness. I had a prof--now since passed, unfortunately--who devised a learning tool designed to help such a quest that he called the Hexadigm. I thought it brilliant, and we became collaborators during my two years at Northern Arizona expanding and refining while adapting it to the specific demands of online/distance learning. Unfortunately as the author of the linked essay noted, those needing to read such a critique or utilize a learning system to arrive at an objective understanding are the ones least likely to be exposed and thus remain in limbo, not knowing which way is up, down or sideways, and remain lemmings politically. Funny how it took tRump's election to finally unlock the rage engendered by Obama's betrayal. I'm watching with great interest to see which way and how far the resistance goes.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 11, 2017 6:58:24 PM | 95

@97 karlof, 'it took tRump's election to finally unlock the rage engendered by oBomba's betrayal'

i think that's exactly right. now that he's gone it's 'ok' to admit who he was when he was here. mission accomplished. no damage done to the machinery after the fact. and there's life after being thrown under the bus. the clintons and bushes have managed quite well. they all knew it was part of the deal when they signed on. the money makes up for it all. to them.

hexadigm? got a link?

Posted by: jfl | Feb 11, 2017 7:35:41 PM | 96

Fun time in Aden.

Tweets from various sources in Yemen today:

Saeed Al-Batati @saeedalBatati
Breaking: Tension is steaming in #Aden as presidential guards(led by #Hadi's son) besieged Aden airpot controlled by rival faction. #Yemen

Haykal Bafana @BaFana3 #Yemen
1am local : Heavy armed clashes in #Aden Airport. Intra-militia fighting. Many streets now closed. Tanks & armour deployed.

Haykal Bafana @BaFana3
1pm local - Aden Airport, #Yemen : #UAE Apache helicopter launched airstrike on #Saudi-paid militia of president Hadi.

Saeed Al-Batati @saeedalBatati
@adenalghad: A helicopter(Arab coalition) bombed armed vehicle manned by presidential guards outside #Aden airport.

Saleh Khalid Saleh @SalehAlBatati1
Finally, Hadi orders his forces surrounding Aden airport to withdraw after tense and bloody day near the airport.

Saleh Khalid Saleh @SalehAlBatati1
The fighting around #Aden airport was not the spur of the moment.
Sporadic intra-factions since Aden liberation,it just got escalated today.

Saleh Khalid Saleh @SalehAlBatati1
Just to clarify: the fighting was between factions loyal to Hadi and those loyal to U.A.E over taking control of Aden airport.

Hisham Al-Omeisy @omeisy
Hadi forms "joint ops room" for ministry of interior in Aden. Indirectly admitting #Yemen gov not in control & need coordinate w/ factions.

---

Who's side will the CIA take? And who's side the Pentagon? With whom will the White House agree?

The folks in Tehran must have great fun watching this.

Posted by: b | Feb 12, 2017 8:47:16 AM | 97

god damned uncle scam, clapping all over the place and expect others to clean it up !

'No doubt the $2 billion fund that the UN is appealing for on behalf of Yemen is a gross fraction of the actual damage to the people and their country. The real figure could be as high as $200 billion considering two years of wholesale destruction.

But that bill of damage should not be spread over the world for responsibility. It should be presented precisely to Washington, London and Riyadh for them to pay alone. And then after the financial reparations are made, the UN should stop sanitizing the criminals and facilitate an international court to prosecute American, British and Saudi leaders for war crimes.'


http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/46424.htm

Posted by: denk | Feb 12, 2017 10:13:12 AM | 98

- Orwell feared those who would ban books; Huxley feared there would be no reason to ban books because nobody would want to read one.
- Orwell feared those who would deprive us of information and conceal the truth; Huxley feared the truth would be drown in a sea of irrelevance.
- Orwell feared we would become a captive culture; Huxley feared would become a trivial culture.
- In 1984, people are controlled by inflicting pain; in Brave New World, people are controlled by inflicting pleasure.
- Orwell feared that what we hate will ruin us; Huxley feared that we will love what will ruin us.

Posted by: jfl | Feb 11, 2017 8:09:34 AM | 91

Felt this deserved a copy and paste, given the array of mind-shagging techniques in play at the moment - they've always been there, the frequency of the #fakenews war makes it front and centre today.

Satirists have almost too much subject matter to draw on at the moment.

Posted by: MadMax2 | Feb 12, 2017 10:59:46 AM | 99

jfl @98--

Dr. Guy Bensusan designed the Hexadigm and related methodologies in order for students to gain a better understanding within his discipline--Humanities--and without. Googling hexadigm and bensusan gives many hits with this link being good, http://michaelcoghlan.net/nw2001/esc.htm I've my own hard copies of his methodology stored in a file cabinet. Perhaps you might read about him in the first linked article at this pdf link, http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download;jsessionid=49B48DFED30BC2D41154EBD04D93B0D3?doi=10.1.1.112.695&rep=rep1&type=pdf

His papers are located at NAU, but nobody's done the work to put them in order for publication, which I find amazing given the following he had. He was an outstanding teacher with a brilliant mind.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 12, 2017 3:48:11 PM | 100

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