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November 14, 2015

What Preceded The Islamic State Attacks In France - Some Links (Updated)

This happened last night: At least 120 dead in Paris attacks, Hollande declares emergency

Gunmen and bombers attacked restaurants, a concert hall and a sports stadium at locations across Paris on Friday, killing at least 120 people in a deadly rampage that a shaken President Francois Hollande called an unprecedented terrorist attack.

The Islamic State claims responsibility (English version) for the attack.

But who weaponized and financed the Islamic State or prior organizations in Syria and Iraq from which this terror attack grew? Is this cartoon justified?

Cartoon of the day by Carlos Latuff

Consider:

In 2012 - Hollande admits arming Syrian rebels in breach of embargo - book

The French president has admitted delivering weapons to the Syrian rebels during a period of EU embargo, a new book about to be published in France reveals.

The deliveries took place in 2012, before the embargo was canceled in May 2013, according to François Hollande's last year interview with journalist and writer Xavier Panon. "We began when we were certain they would end up in the right hands. For the lethal weapons it was our services who delivered them," Hollande told the writer, ...

Okt 2012 - Rebel Arms Flow Is Said to Benefit Jihadists in Syria

WASHINGTON — Most of the arms shipped at the behest of Saudi Arabia and Qatar to supply Syrian rebel groups fighting the government of Bashar al-Assad are going to hard-line Islamic jihadists, and not the more secular opposition groups that the West wants to bolster, according to American officials and Middle Eastern diplomats.

Dec 2012 - France funding Syrian rebels in new push to oust Assad

France has emerged as the most prominent backer of Syria's armed opposition and is now directly funding rebel groups around Aleppo as part of a new push to oust the embattled Assad regime.

Large sums of cash have been delivered by French government proxies across the Turkish border to rebel commanders in the past month, diplomatic sources have confirmed. The money has been used to buy weapons inside Syria and to fund armed operations against loyalist forces.

Aug 2014 - France delivered arms to Syrian rebels, Hollande confirms

President Francois Hollande said on Thursday that France had delivered weapons to rebels battling the Syrian regime of Bashar al-Assad “a few months ago.”
Nov 2015
Murad Gazdiev @MuradoRT
French APILAS rocket launcher supplied to #syria rebels fall into hands of #ISIS. Pics from #Deraa, Southern #Syria
12:09 PM - 6 Nov 2015


Jun 2014 - 'Thank God for the Saudis': ISIS, Iraq, and the Lessons of Blowback

[T]wo of the most successful factions fighting Assad’s forces are Islamist extremist groups: Jabhat al-Nusra and the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), the latter of which is now amassing territory in Iraq and threatening to further destabilize the entire region. And that success is in part due to the support they have received from two Persian Gulf countries: Qatar and Saudi Arabia.

Qatar’s military and economic largesse has made its way to Jabhat al-Nusra, to the point that a senior Qatari official told me he can identify al-Nusra commanders by the blocks they control in various Syrian cities. But ISIS is another matter. As one senior Qatari official stated, “ISIS has been a Saudi project.”

France benefited from its support for the U.S.-Wahhabi regime change project in Syria and Iraq by getting huge orders for military equipment from the medieval Wahhabi regimes:

Apr 2015 - France and Qatar seal $7 billion Rafale fighter jet deal

Qatar has agreed to buy 24 Dassault Aviation-built Rafale fighter jets in a 6.3-billion-euro (4.55 billion pounds) deal, the French government said on Thursday, as the Gulf Arab state looks to boost its military firepower in an increasingly unstable region.

June 2015 - Saudi Arabia and France ink $12bln deal

Saudi Arabia and France agreed Wednesday to sign $12 billion of deals, Saudi Foreign Minister Adel Al-Jubair said during a landmark visit by Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman to Paris.

Even after it became obvious for everyone that the regime change project in Syria has led to an expansion of terrorism Hollande was still demanding the end of the Syrian state.

Sept 2015 - François Hollande of France Says Assad Must Go

President François Hollande of France told the United Nations General Assembly on Monday that his country would “shoulder its responsibilities” in global efforts to end the fighting in Syria, but that the conflict could be resolved only if President Bashar al-Assad was removed from power.

Can Hollande now change his tune?

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Almost the 7th anniversary of the Mumbai attacks that lasted 3 days, with somewhat similar targeting, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Mumbai_attacks

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 14, 2015 1:52:00 AM | 1

what is strange with this attack, is the perpetrators screaming "Syria...Syria" along with their customary Allah Akhbar. Something surely smells fishy, especially today where the next round of Syrian talks takes place in Vienna

Posted by: papa | Nov 14, 2015 2:16:45 AM | 2

karma is a biatch :-P

Posted by: karlitozulu | Nov 14, 2015 2:29:17 AM | 3

the 3 first attacks occured at the entrance of the stade de france where hollande and interior ministry cazeneuve were watching france-germany soccer game. the match continued. it s only from receiving sms from friends that ppl understood. when they went out they saw police guiding them to one exit only and straight to tube station some of them refusing to explain or say anything on what has happened.
how does it feel to be treated like cattle, you may ask?

Hollande has his Bush moment, it would seem.

Posted by: Mina | Nov 14, 2015 2:29:28 AM | 4

Too fishy. Inside job??! France has a history of inside job since the French revolution with the reign of terror.

Posted by: RussianBoy | Nov 14, 2015 2:34:15 AM | 5

I'm sure military response will be trumped-up, but in what manner?
Will they try to bully their way into syria? I don't think Putin will relent, but the result could be WW3.

Perhaps ww3 is written in the cards eh? Would be absurd that it would be over f*cking France and its colonial evil of all things

Posted by: bbbbb | Nov 14, 2015 2:49:55 AM | 6

This was NOT a false flag.

No false flag attack would use multiple suicide bombers. Too difficult and too dangerous to become known.

A false flag attack would use several bombs which would create about the same mayhem but with much less effort.

Posted by: b | Nov 14, 2015 2:54:06 AM | 7

Is Hollande already the worst French president ever?? 2 terrorist attacks in only 11 months..

Posted by: RussianBoy | Nov 14, 2015 3:09:16 AM | 8

@7

9/11 involved multiple suicide bombers aswell as a coordinated media campaign and compliant investigation (Well not that coordinated, cheers BBC)

Posted by: Bob | Nov 14, 2015 3:11:20 AM | 9

5 years ago they adopted a pet cobra in Syria and nursed it - taught it how to bite and all. Back then this little pet cobra was all cuddly and sweet. They gave it all sorts of names and went through a lot of re-branding and stuff - y'know, just to make the concerned neighbors happy.

But this pet cobra's now grown into a massive king cobra with insatiable appetite to bite everything. Heck, it bites whoever crosses its path and demand more food or else!!!


"Oh, what a tangled web we weave. When first we practise to deceive!"

Posted by: Zico | Nov 14, 2015 3:16:13 AM | 10

These attackers came with the Syrian refugee wave
That means all europe is exposed.brilliant move

Posted by: mcohen | Nov 14, 2015 3:24:11 AM | 11

@8 Hollande and Sarko have to be near the bottom..
but let's not forget that France continues its abhorrent colonial legacy

Posted by: bbbbb | Nov 14, 2015 3:26:31 AM | 12

AS usual the stupid MSM dont tie the attacks to the french attacks in Syria..

Posted by: Seder | Nov 14, 2015 3:28:51 AM | 13

i can't fully imagine what it was like to be inside that concert hall. people reportedly being executed 1 by 1. france is rightfully enraged and grieving. but, of course, the travesty of western policy won't be examined, is less likely to be examined after this. and the irony cuts both ways. yes, we're basically directly arming isis, we being the west, by allowing the arms flow to jihadis. but where is the jihadis' gratitude?

Posted by: Anonymous | Nov 14, 2015 3:48:29 AM | 14

Qatar & Saudi Arabia. Look no further.

Posted by: Julian | Nov 14, 2015 3:58:13 AM | 15

@14
Exactly so. The so-called 'IS fighters' feel betrayed by their employers and their employers do not want to be exposed. That is what created the massacre in Paris.

Posted by: RussianBoy | Nov 14, 2015 3:59:23 AM | 16

This is uncanny. I wrote a post at the bottom of a dead thread about the Min. of Labor in F, and I was going to continue it in an open thread, arguing that France does not appear to be governed any longer, except as a ‘facade’ - the Gvmt. is cracking loose all over the place. I’ve been thinking about this for days, and also re-visited 9/11 (role of the media, not ‘how the attacks were done’ / ‘whodunnit.’) Coincidental, of course. But this terror attack will unhinge it completely. Not at first obviously (when the usual grief and anger makes for solidarity and turning to authority..), but over time. Yikes. And all those poor victims..

Posted by: Noirette | Nov 14, 2015 4:13:52 AM | 17

Possible Suspect arrested in Germany on Thursday on his way to Paris http://www.br.de/nachrichten/schleierfahnder-attentat-paris-100.html

Posted by: Our ma | Nov 14, 2015 4:14:26 AM | 18

@18
It looks Merkel will soon be fired

Posted by: RussianBoy | Nov 14, 2015 4:21:49 AM | 19

@RussianBoy @19

why will Merkel be fired? she is only following her orders. who will replace her?

Posted by: papa | Nov 14, 2015 4:26:20 AM | 20

If some of those 'terrorists' came from 'Germany', there will be pressure to her resign, for sure.

Posted by: RussianBoy | Nov 14, 2015 4:28:47 AM | 21

Will the attacks seal the fate of Syrian migrants? I can't imagine the EU accepting more in this atmosphere. Doesn't matter if the terrorists are homegrown, as I tentatively figure they are.

As others have said, Merkel's in trouble.

M. Le Pen and the National Front will try to capitalize, but I'm still skeptical of their ability to take the presidency - at least for now. Sure, she can come in first in a three-way race. But she'll get killed in the runoff by a right-left coalition. Unless, of course, the right, which is near collapse after Sarkozy drained the life from it, goes over to Le Pen instead of uniting with the left to keep her out. I think that's unlikely but not beyond the realm of possibility.

I see dim but ominous signs that these terrorist acts will grow and increase into a sort of low-boil insurgency, turning Europe into a heavily fortified police state. We've learned since the financial crash that fascism is alive and well among the Continental peoples. The soil's contaminated with it. It's under the conditions of a state of siege, bordering on insurgency, that I envision a Le Pen presidency. That will augur the end of post-WWII Europe. Hitler will be clapping in his grave.

@17 I'm intrigued by what you say, about the French state verging on implosion.what exactly do you mean?

Posted by: Anonymous | Nov 14, 2015 4:38:30 AM | 22

The diplomatic standoff over who is a terrorist and who counts as a legitimate opposition group comes on top of the significant differences that remain on the future of President Bashar al-Assad of Syria. Russia and Iran want to leave open the possibility that Mr. Assad can stand for election once more. The United States, Britain and their Persian Gulf allies resolutely oppose that idea.

The Russian foreign minister, Sergey V. Lavrov, during a visit to Armenia on Monday, said that the talks should concern themselves with who should represent the Syrian opposition and who should be considered extremists, instead of whether to replace Mr. Assad, The Associated Press reported. As for which opposition group is legitimate, Mr. Assad has dismissed all his armed rivals as terrorists, and Russia, his most powerful backer, has largely supported his assertion. Indeed, over the last five weeks, Russian airstrikes have repeatedly attacked positions of several Western-backed groups.

Mr. Hammond also said that his government suspected that the Islamic State or operatives “inspired” by the organization were behind the destruction of a Russian airliner in Egypt on Oct. 31. He added that he hoped that would persuade President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia to take a more flexible posture in the Syria talks.

“We’ll see whether the Russians now double down or whether they decide that they never wanted to be too deeply engaged anyway in Syria and that this is a warning shot to them and we’ll sense a greater willingness to engage in the talks in Vienna this coming Saturday,” he said.

While Mr. Hammond declined to offer any details on which groups could eventually take part in political negotiations, his comments suggested that the West might be prepared to back Sunni Islamist groups with close ties to allies, including Saudi Arabia. “What we mean by a secular constitution, and what people in the Muslim world will understand by secular will be two different things,” Mr. Hammond said.

I wonder if the "Free World" and France in particular are prepared to show some flexibility now that a "legitimate opposition group" has entered the French political process.

Posted by: Most Curious | Nov 14, 2015 4:50:58 AM | 23

The diplomatic standoff over who is a terrorist and who counts as a legitimate opposition group comes on top of the significant differences that remain on the future of President Bashar al-Assad of Syria. Russia and Iran want to leave open the possibility that Mr. Assad can stand for election once more. The United States, Britain and their Persian Gulf allies resolutely oppose that idea.

The Russian foreign minister, Sergey V. Lavrov, during a visit to Armenia on Monday, said that the talks should concern themselves with who should represent the Syrian opposition and who should be considered extremists, instead of whether to replace Mr. Assad, The Associated Press reported. As for which opposition group is legitimate, Mr. Assad has dismissed all his armed rivals as terrorists, and Russia, his most powerful backer, has largely supported his assertion. Indeed, over the last five weeks, Russian airstrikes have repeatedly attacked positions of several Western-backed groups.

Mr. Hammond also said that his government suspected that the Islamic State or operatives “inspired” by the organization were behind the destruction of a Russian airliner in Egypt on Oct. 31. He added that he hoped that would persuade President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia to take a more flexible posture in the Syria talks.

“We’ll see whether the Russians now double down or whether they decide that they never wanted to be too deeply engaged anyway in Syria and that this is a warning shot to them and we’ll sense a greater willingness to engage in the talks in Vienna this coming Saturday,” he said.

While Mr. Hammond declined to offer any details on which groups could eventually take part in political negotiations, his comments suggested that the West might be prepared to back Sunni Islamist groups with close ties to allies, including Saudi Arabia. “What we mean by a secular constitution, and what people in the Muslim world will understand by secular will be two different things,” Mr. Hammond said.

I wonder if the "Free World" and France in particular are prepared to show some flexibility now that a "legitimate opposition group" has entered the French political process.

Posted by: Most Curious | Nov 14, 2015 4:50:58 AM | 24

Could be these Jihadists have just saved Europe and wrecked the EU and NATO by dint of sheer incredibly bad public relations.

Posted by: blues | Nov 14, 2015 4:55:15 AM | 25

Got to appreciate the news coverage this is getting, "the world stands united with France" and all that, in contrast to the Beirut bombing a few days ago and the relaxed attitude it received.

Posted by: never mind | Nov 14, 2015 4:56:50 AM | 26

Where are the facts?
Who did it? (names, coming from, aso)

Posted by: From The Hague | Nov 14, 2015 5:01:58 AM | 27

"This was NOT a false flag."

That's irrelevant. The deep state will ensure that this event will have the same consequences regardless.

Posted by: Most Curious | Nov 14, 2015 5:09:52 AM | 28

Hollande says IS is behind the attacks. Borders are closed, six locations where attacks occurred, State of Emergency.

Posted by: okie farmer | Nov 14, 2015 5:13:42 AM | 29

And: Where are the images or films? (so we can see the perpetrators, the victims)
Isn't it 2015?

Posted by: From The Hague | Nov 14, 2015 5:17:13 AM | 30

That is to say that George Bush's dictum will be followed: "They hate us for our freedoms; therefore we will oppose their ideology by taking those freedoms away."

Posted by: Most Curious | Nov 14, 2015 5:17:36 AM | 31

We cannot in good conscience blame any one. We must wait for:

(+) The black boxes to be analyzed. (Will take six months.)

(+) Afghanistan to be bombed. (Will take two days.)

We must honor the legal precedents.

Posted by: blues | Nov 14, 2015 5:18:20 AM | 32

@31
Merkle said exactly that, this morning.

Posted by: okie farmer | Nov 14, 2015 5:29:55 AM | 33

To add to your links, b, a thorough mainstream report documenting Saudi and Qatari support for Al Qaeda and ISIS in Syria, from 2014:

... two of the most successful factions fighting Assad’s forces are Islamist extremist groups: [Al Qaeda affiliated] Jabhat al-Nusra and the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), the latter of which is now amassing territory in Iraq and threatening to further destabilize the entire region. And that success is in part due to the support they have received from two Persian Gulf countries: Qatar and Saudi Arabia.

Qatar’s military and economic largesse has made its way to Jabhat al-Nusra, to the point that a senior Qatari official told me he can identify al-Nusra commanders by the blocks they control in various Syrian cities. But ISIS is another matter. As one senior Qatari official stated, "ISIS has been a Saudi project."

Of course, the mainstream report doesn't tread too deep into the obvious dominant/submissive relationship between the US and Saudi/Qatar on all foreign policy matters. But the article does take some solid shots at McCain.

Posted by: fairleft | Nov 14, 2015 5:31:51 AM | 34

France declares state of emergency after terrorist attacks kill 140 in Paris


The immense sympathy for the victims and the terrible suffering that their families will endure does not relieve us of the responsibility of assessing the source of this tragedy. If, as seems likely, the attacks were carried out by European veterans of ISIS or a similar militia, the hundreds of dead and wounded in the streets of Paris are victims of imperialist wars in the Middle East, waged for cynical geopolitical ends, that are now spiraling out of control.

Twelve years ago, when the Bush administration launched an illegal invasion of Iraq, the French government, foreseeing the disaster that would flow from the war, refused to participate. The reintegration of France into NATO’s military command in 2009, followed by its decision to join the United States and other NATO powers in Middle East wars in 2011, has proven to have disastrous consequences.

The French political establishment backed Islamist militias in proxy wars for regime change in Libya and Syria, encouraging its citizens to join these militias by widely presenting them in the media as “revolutionaries” fighting Gaddafi and Assad. Now these forces, trained to carry out terrorist attacks and guerrilla warfare in the Middle East, are returning home. This has created a political environment in which terrorism can flourish and spread rapidly, and as a result the war has come home to France.


All we are saying is give peace a chance. Could it be more apparent that that's what needs to be done? Stand down in Syria. No more arms for the headchoppers. Stand down in Yemen. Start to put things back together. Stand down in Ukraine. Stop following the pied piper of death, devastation and destruction : the Nihilist Nobel Peace Prize Laureate. In the West we have a lot to be humble about, a lot of monstrous actions to own up to, and a lot of forgiveness to beg.

We need to give peace a chance. Every one in power - everyone who has a piece of this 15 year old series of ... they're not wars, they're each a cross between an assassination, a pogrom, a massacre, a demolition, and an extermination - is going to be working overtime to turn this into yet more of the same. Been there, seen that. We just must oppose them. Not let it happen. We are many. They are very, very few.

Posted by: jfl | Nov 14, 2015 5:41:37 AM | 35

The gruesome video, if you like that sort of thing.

Posted by: Laguerre | Nov 14, 2015 5:42:53 AM | 36

Asked about giving stinger missiles to 'our terrorists' John McCain said.. “Absolutely… Absolutely I would,” McCain said when asked whether he would support the delivery of Stinger missiles to the opposition in Syria.
“We certainly did that in Afghanistan. After the Russians invaded Afghanistan, we provided them with surface-to-air capability. It’d be nice to give people that we train and equip and send them to fight the ability to defend themselves. That’s one of the fundamental principles of warfare as I understand it,” McCain said.http://freespeechtwentyfirstcentury.com/2015/10/22/john-mccain-white-freemason-calls-on-us-to-provide-stingers-missiles-to-syrian-rebels/ The man should be in a straight jacket, Weapons in the hands of terrorists in Syria [good or bad] are instantly traded to the highest bidder or stolen. If stingers are supplied we can assume all flights from Ben Gurion airport, even from Turkey and now also France and other EU states will be suspended. As Lavrov said recently "there are no 'good' or 'bad' terrorists" it was a Free Syrian Army terrorist who was filmed proudly eating a Syrian soldiers heart/liver. McCain is a delusional fool.

Posted by: harry law | Nov 14, 2015 5:56:30 AM | 37

Agreed, "false flag" is not the proper analytics. But evidence of foreknowledge is highly relevant. Friday evening's news on NBC included repeated references by different speakers to the problems of "encrypted communications." It sounded scripted.

Posted by: Laker | Nov 14, 2015 6:12:54 AM | 38

b, Not a hoax. (phoney event)

False Flag, meaning the real perpetrator is hidden behind the "flag" of the apparent perp. In this case, not a spontaneous event by jihadists, but engineered by someone who enabled this.

"Engineered event" is ok too. Altho Assad is already being blamed as ultimately "responsible."

Posted by: Penelope | Nov 14, 2015 6:17:19 AM | 39

It is crazy ironical when one considers that Hollande and Fabius were the most, and by far, staunchly anti-Assad of the W countries leaders. Does anyone have a good link about what IS (or whomever) stated about the attacks?

Posted by: Noirette | Nov 14, 2015 6:25:45 AM | 40

The most worrisome is that if it is classified as an attack on one of the NATO members, this may become the signal for NATO mobilization. We all know how much criticism NATO has drawn in recent years, some calling for its disbanding as an organisation that has outlived its usefulness. This is a perfect storm for NATO. Such situation may confirm their usefulness and provide justification for their existence. It appears that there is already a groundwork for such NATO mobilization being prepared by MSM and Obama.

https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/11/14/perfect-storm-will-nato-mobilize-in-wake-of-paris-attacks/

Posted by: From The Hague | Nov 14, 2015 6:27:06 AM | 41

Hollande said "We are at war". It follows then that France should stop giving arms to the terrorists who they say they are at war with.
WASHINGTON — Most of the arms shipped at the behest of Saudi Arabia and Qatar to supply Syrian rebel groups fighting the government of Bashar al-Assad are going to hard-line Islamic jihadists, and not the more secular opposition groups that the West wants to bolster, according to American officials and Middle Eastern diplomats.[see link from 'b'].

Posted by: harry law | Nov 14, 2015 6:38:57 AM | 42

Eye witness: They were speaking French with French accents, "We're doing this for what you have done in Syria."

Posted by: okie farmer | Nov 14, 2015 6:41:27 AM | 43

Jihadi John, Palestinian suicide bombers in Beirut, clamp down in West Bank. What is the give away is the terrorists shouting "for Syria for Syria" during the Paris attack, now you would have thought the attackers in Beirut would be shouting this, don't you? Who is gaining from this?

Posted by: papa | Nov 14, 2015 6:43:43 AM | 44

@ 43

Video?

(Everybody can say what he wants and every journalist can translate it as he wants)

Posted by: From The Hague | Nov 14, 2015 6:46:26 AM | 45

IS claims they were behind the attacks.

Posted by: okie farmer | Nov 14, 2015 6:51:35 AM | 46

"Does anyone have a good link about what IS (or whomever) stated about the attacks?"

Posted by: Noirette

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Added links above to IS claim of responsibility.

Posted by: b | Nov 14, 2015 6:55:29 AM | 47


Here in F, the IS statement the press is referring to.

https://twitter.com/_DavidThomson/status/665481250132664320/photo/1

Posted by: Noirette | Nov 14, 2015 6:56:15 AM | 48

@ RussianBoy and mCohne

Sorry it is early this morning but what stupidities are you two talking about ? The perps are from the wave of refugees.

See the map of Paris and all the one way streets and tell me that a newbie will know where to stop to rain a crowded terrace with bullets and then hop back inside their car to their next murder scenes

Posted by: Yul | Nov 14, 2015 7:13:43 AM | 49

Syria passport found on one the suicide bombers. At the football stadium.

Posted by: okie farmer | Nov 14, 2015 7:18:33 AM | 50

Maybe the countries of Western Europe will wake up and realize they have a "Cultural Bacterial Infection" eating away at their "bodies politic".
I use the infection metaphor, fully cognizant of its Nazi origins, only this time (unlike during the Nazi era) it's for real.
These countries have hard choices going forward and should consider the need for expulsion and even more drastic measures. A country like Sweden cannot bring in this sort of vermin without ultimate loss of its
identity. All Mosques should be closed, clerics expelled or incarcerated, underground mosques defined as criminal conspiracy, etc.

Posted by: Casowary Gentry | Nov 14, 2015 7:23:24 AM | 51

@ 51
You're a real Nazi.

Posted by: From The Hague | Nov 14, 2015 7:31:45 AM | 52

@52
Maybe that's what it takes? Muslims in European countries like France, Sweden, and others haven't been exactly warm fuzzies, have they?

Posted by: Casowary Gentry | Nov 14, 2015 7:36:48 AM | 53

Of course the missing passport:

"A Syrian passport has been found next to one of the suicide bombers at the Stad de France football stadium in Saint-Denis, Reuters reports, citing sources close to the investigation."

Posted by: Seder | Nov 14, 2015 7:45:17 AM | 54

@Casowary

You haven't been on this site before, read any of b's work, have you?

Posted by: never mind | Nov 14, 2015 7:46:25 AM | 55

Just saw the speech of Hollande.
That sounded like Bush after 0911.
We will go and get them.

Posted by: From The Hague | Nov 14, 2015 7:56:12 AM | 56

Posted by: From The Hague | Nov 14, 2015 7:56:12 AM | 56

Wouldnt surprise if US, France, and allies go all in now like Libya 2011 which of course would ruin Syria just like Libya.

Posted by: Seder | Nov 14, 2015 8:03:26 AM | 57

Watch for some McCainite to suggest 'training and arming' refugees before they go to Europe, so they can help Europe defend against ISIS, once they get there.

Posted by: Nofo | Nov 14, 2015 8:12:35 AM | 58

Wouldnt surprise if US, France, and allies go all in now like Libya 2011
I would, but in any case it is a waste of time hitting the wrong target. That won't change anything. France needs to think about its foreign policy, not go in like a bull in a china shop, as the US does.

Posted by: Laguerre | Nov 14, 2015 8:17:55 AM | 59

Look for a chapter 4 NATO assault on Syria.

Posted by: Secret Agent | Nov 14, 2015 8:21:05 AM | 60

@49. Correct. Everything about this attack suggests long term planning by a local cell. How long have the Syrian "wave refugees" been in France?

Posted by: David | Nov 14, 2015 8:27:51 AM | 61

It is the Gulf countries internal war by proxy.

This attack, like the others we have seen recently is a reflection of the secret power war going on within the rich Sunni Gulf countries, in particular the Saudi Arabia family. On side is rewarding France for its attacks on ISIS and is looking to curb the terrorism, while the other side is financing ISIS and encouraging attacks on Shia and Western countries that are actively fighting ISIS.
As the trap is closing on ISIS in Syria and Iraq since Russia intervention and the sudden renew of the USA attacks, we see attacks on Russia, Hezbollah and France succeeding within few days.

Maybe the West will finally realize what the Russians have been saying: 1) It is time to stop calling for a regime change in Syria and Yemen and use all the military resources possible in this countries to eradicate ISIS once for all. 2) Establish a tough control on Turkey's financial system as most of the money going to terrorists is passing through Turkey. 3) Saudi, Qatari, UAE and Kuwaiti money transfer from charities and individuals must be strictly controlled
A Security Council resolution must be voted that prohibits arms and money transfer to entities considered illegitimate.

The 'special' case of Turkey
Besides attacks that targeted Kurds, Turkey has been spared on ISIS random terrorist attacks. It seems obvious that ISIS would not compromise its relation with Turkey as all their financing and arming is passing through this country. In addition Turkey has shown a very low interest in fighting ISIS, quite the contrary they have been using ISIS to weaken the Kurds.
Turkey's duplicity should be exposed once for all. Maybe with the Paris attack, the West will wake up to this reality.

Posted by: virgile | Nov 14, 2015 8:33:50 AM | 62

President al-Assad to French delegation: terrorist attacks on Paris couldn’t be separated from those of Beirut and events in Syria

http://sana.sy/en/?p=61231

“Wrong polices adopted by western states, particularly France, towards events in the region, and its ignorance of the support of a number of its allies to terrorists are reasons behind the expansion of terrorism,” President al-Assad said, pointing out to the importance of adopting new polices and taking active procedures to stop support for terrorists logistically or politically in order to overcome terrorism.”

If Paris events are true than: Chickens come home to roost.

But no, I do not believe in anything what they've presented us. This time they were more careful, no clumsy clips with shooting cop on the ground, and driving a car through narrow street of Paris. This time no nothing of that type of spectacle. This time: he said, she said. This time we are told numbers and “horror” of the events with police/military and medic staff parading in front of cameras. It is carefully choreographed no room for critically minded individual to mock the Security State.


‘The Seeds of a Fascist International,’ Arendt writes,

‘It was always a too little noted hallmark of fascist propaganda that it was not satisfied with lying, but deliberately proposed to transform its lies into reality. For such a fabrication of lying reality, no one was prepared. The essential characteristic of fascist propaganda was never its lies, for this is something more or less common to propaganda everywhere, and of every time. The essential thing was that they exploited the age-old occidental prejudice which confuses reality with truth, and made that tue, which until then, could only be stated as lie’

Arendt gives the example of this mutation by pointing to the statement ‘my wealthy aunt is dead.’ If someone should say, ‘But I saw your aunt just a moment ago at the market,’ all I have to do to make my statement true is to go home and murder my aunt.

So why all this. Obviously, the West have faced with dilemma what to with refuges which is direct consequence of the State Terrorism policy (aka regime change, aka liberalization etc.) conducted by the West. How to get out of the Syrian's fiasco. There are trying to wash their hand now from Syria after years of supporting the Death Squad policy, I believe they have help or Russia in this.

Posted by: Neretva'43 | Nov 14, 2015 8:46:16 AM | 63

The Saudis Are Stumbling – They May Take the Middle East With Them

http://original.antiwar.com/hallinan/2015/11/13/the-saudis-are-stumbling-they-may-take-the-middle-east-with-them/

Posted by: virgile | Nov 14, 2015 8:49:14 AM | 64

@Zico #10

"5 years ago they adopted a pet cobra in Syria and nursed it - taught it how to bite and all. Back then this little pet cobra was all cuddly and sweet. They gave it all sorts of names and went through a lot of re-branding and stuff - y'know, just to make the concerned neighbors happy..."

In 2008 an unknown Reverent (Jeremiah Alvesta Wright, Jr. ) views were made public...

The Chicken coming back to roost...No, no, no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people, God damn America for treating our (any) citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga7a0JDHFIU

Will the endless killing and wars end? Nope not until every single warmonger charged and lock up for crimes against humanity.

Posted by: Jack Smith | Nov 14, 2015 8:50:54 AM | 65


Another refreshing (reminder) from Reverent Jeremiah Alvesta Wright, Jr.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=208t80uceSg

Posted by: Jack Smith | Nov 14, 2015 9:20:00 AM | 66

Paris attacks. I. An account from a journo who was at the match (Eng.) It was posted in the night of 13 nov. He gives an un-timed chronology. See first 5.30 mins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcrzlIX0qK0

BFM tv questions a spectator who is inside (?) the stadium. (French) (The match is now over.) Q: the spectators returned to the stadium to protect themselves? R: Yes, right, some returned to the stadium, others tried to evacuate, the places to evacuate the stadium are quite restricted and just now I saw some young /incomprehensible/ but it was completely blocked by the police// vid cuts off. One wants to listen to hear the tone of the journalist. Less than 1 minute.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zlmHpjD5uU

one of the explosions during the match, imho genuine, it was really quite loud (33 secs)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcwzOouXw04

francetv sport has announcements and tweets during the match (13 nov.) Here are the relevant ones:

22.03 Explosions around the Stade de France

22. 33 Aucune entrée ou sortie du sdf est désormais possible. (No entries and exits to or from the Stadium possible from now on.) Signed Rodolphe Gaudin, journalist with France 2.

22.55. Victory for France

http://tinyurl.com/q4n3nwa

The French team stayed in the stadium until 3.00 when they were let go. The Germans preffered to spend the whole night in the stadium.

Posted by: Noirette | Nov 14, 2015 9:21:59 AM | 67

Virgile #62
Sorry for interrupting a session of day dreaming but the EU still wishes to give 3 billion to Erdogan if only he could keep the refugees, especially now that Merkel has announced she finally decided that it was best to return to the Dublin scheme according to which any refugee entering the EU should make an application for asylum at the country of entrance, whatever time it will take for it to be answered.

Posted by: Mina | Nov 14, 2015 9:33:46 AM | 68

A 51-year-old Montenegrin detained in Germany after his car was found to be laden with weaponry and explosives is being linked to the Paris plot. The man was arrested in Bavaria near the Austrian border on 5 November, according to Bavarian public radio.

A pistol was found under the engine hood of his Volkswagen Golf, prompting an alert, according to the radio’s veteran and reputable crime reporter, citing regional police sources.

The Bavarian government confirmed the report, stating that the interior ministry was “intensively investigating together with the French authorities whether there is a connection with the events in Paris.”

Joachim Herrmann, the Bavarian interior minister, said: “Someone transporting several kalashnikovs, hand grenades, and explosives could be from the serious crime sector.

“But there are reasons to suspect that this is about terrorist intentions, or someone supplying weapons to terrorists.”

Examination of the suspect’s mobile phone and of the car’s GPS system indicated he was en route to Paris, German media reports said.

Police experts impounded the vehicle and took it apart - to reveal a sophisticated operation with automatic weapons, 200 grammes of TNT, hand grenades, and ammunition carefully concealed in the car’s bodywork, according to the reports.

Bavarian investigators immediately alerted the French authorities after the man was arrested, the report said. http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/14/us-france-shooting-germany-idUSKCN0T30UX20151114#MZ7cHW7P6TKxWAdx.97

Posted by: Daisee | Nov 14, 2015 9:36:04 AM | 69

So, the Security State has started with producing an evidence:


Paris - today
"Syrian passport found on body of suicide bomber at Stade de France"
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paris-terror-attacks-syrian-passport-found-on-body-of-suicide-bomber-at-stade-de-france-a6734491.html

hmmm....haven't we heard of this before?

New York 9/11
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satam_al-Suqami
“Suqami's passport was found by a passerby (identity unknown)...”,!!!???

London
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/4688909.stm
Mohammad Sidique Khan: ID found at Edgware Road blast site.
Hasib Mir Hussain: Aged: ID found in No 30 bus.

Madrid
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/08/26/spain.extradition/index.html?eref=sitesearch
A search of the site subsequently turned up Bouchar's fingerprints and a Moroccan passport in his name, officials said.
His fingerprint also appeared at a rural home in Chinchon, on the eastern outskirts of Madrid,

Paris
http://www.globalresearch.ca/police-found-the-id-of-said-kouachi-at-the-scene-of-the-charlie-hebdo-shooting-does-this-sound-familiar/5423827
Police found the ID of Said Kouachi at the Scene of the Charlie Hebdo Shooting. Does this Sound Familiar?

With friends like these....who needs real evidences

In The Seeds of a Fascist International, Arendt writes,

“It was always a too little noted hallmark of fascist propaganda that it was not satisfied with lying, but deliberately proposed to transform its lies into reality. For such a fabrication of lying reality, no one was prepared. The essential characteristic of fascist propaganda was never its lies, for this is something more or less common to propaganda everywhere, and of every time. The essential thing was that they exploited the age-old occidental prejudice which confuses reality with truth, and made that tue, which until then, could only be stated as lie.”

Arendt gives the example of this mutation by pointing to the statement “my wealthy aunt is dead.” If someone should say, “But I saw your aunt just a moment ago at the market,” all I have to do to make my statement true is to go home and murder my aunt.


Posted by: Neretva'43 | Nov 14, 2015 9:39:31 AM | 70

Who did it? Why look at the targets. A soccer match, a trendy eatery, and a heavy metal concert. It is clearly a conspiracy by American football, dowdy bistro owners, and international smooth jazz aficionados.

You don't want to mess with Kenny G fans, they're ruthless.

Posted by: rufus magister | Nov 14, 2015 9:44:08 AM | 71

@ b: Thanks b, and all. A well made case against the enablers of these scum,( The western empire, and their minions). Damn shame the discussion held at this site, won't reach the masses.

Posted by: ben | Nov 14, 2015 9:53:50 AM | 72

via https://willyloman.wordpress.com/

this: http://fusion.net/story/233036/paris-attack-young-progressive-core/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialshare&utm_content=desktop+top

The attackers, whomever they may be and whatever their motives, went after the heart of progressive Paris. They did not attack the more touristy Champs-Elysées or Notre Dame, or the more bourgeois and conservative left bank, where most of the government ministries are located.

That message is reinforced by the site of the other attack, the Stade de France. That particular stadium is one of the few places where the promise of a more integrated France is realized, if only intermittently. The French soccer team, known as “Les Bleus,” is the paragon of the ‘black-blanc-beur’ ideal (black, white, arab). The national team is republican meritocracy in action, and it works. The Stade de France is where a French team led by the Algerian-Frenchman Zinedine Zidane won the greatest trophy in sports, the FIFA World Cup, in 1998.

Tonight’s attacks show the same uncanny sense of symbolism as the January massacres. They targeted neighborhoods where people are more inclined to be tolerant, liberal and progressive. And they targeted the greatest monument to France’s multi-ethnic, pluralistic success: the hallowed ground of the Stade de France.

These attacks will almost certainly strengthen the hand of hard-line conservatives, from anti-Islam popular intellectuals like Eric Zemmour and Michel Houellebecq to right wing extremists like Marine Le Pen. There are important regional elections coming up next month, and these attacks could seal the National Front’s victory in several regional governments.

Anne Hidalgo, the mayor of Paris and the granddaughter of Spanish Republican immigrants, called for unity in a tweet.

Posted by: Neretva'43 | Nov 14, 2015 10:02:42 AM | 73

my post #73 is answer to rufus magister

Posted by: Neretva'43 | Nov 14, 2015 10:04:18 AM | 74

ISIS itself is a "false flag". Or maybe we need a new word?

On second thought no. ISIS itself is the false flag. Pay young desperate and often drugged men to live out their fantasies of usefulness in a world where they've been made obsolete, yeah, just pay them. And they'll do anything, because for many it's probably the first paycheck they ever saw. And for a select few, who are perhaps mentally unstable or "dim", martyring themselves is no big deal, they get to go to heaven and their family gets to eat and be well for another year or so.

Nothing about state-sponsored mercenarism is "genuine", nothing about it says "Islam", but tell that to the public...

This happens, just as the concept of "ISIS" is really being called into question and exposed as the imperial shadow army that it is. Sorry, but "false flag" seems more than appropriate. Of course it's still a pointless truism to the 99.9% of "western consumers" who've already been sold on the larger fairy tale. But what now? The megaphone is on full blast and the rational mind completely subsumed by the images of the "Paris" of everyone's elite-vacation-fantasy gets molested by these "heathens".

Posted by: Ananymus | Nov 14, 2015 10:05:27 AM | 75

Sorry, "getting molested". I should use preview I guess.

Posted by: Ananymus | Nov 14, 2015 10:07:49 AM | 76

@ 75

Shall we call it ISUS or USIS?

The US started the mess with the plan of Brzezinski (Afghanistan, 1979).

Posted by: From The Hague | Nov 14, 2015 10:18:00 AM | 77

Zionist eyes are smiling.

Posted by: dahoit | Nov 14, 2015 10:27:46 AM | 78

USIS, ISIS, WHOSIS. Yeah these are the fruits of trying to resurrect the concept of global empire, in an interconnected age. Oops!!

Brezinski et al don't dine in outdoor cafes or attend indie rock concerts...in fact, they are behind bulletproof glass at most times, and have small personal armies which act as force fields. They don't bother their beautiful minds about the blowback. The air of that, in itself, is part of the charm for a true "elite". They are fully godlike in their own minds at this point, and their main minister of power, the media, will bow and scrape to them until the whole thing falls apart.

(Every moron I know is "Praying for Paris" right now. How about praying for a brain, instead?)

Posted by: Ananymus | Nov 14, 2015 10:30:49 AM | 79

@ 73: Excellent post, thanks.

Posted by: ben | Nov 14, 2015 10:33:09 AM | 80

@ 73: IMO, the operative paragraph:

"These attacks will almost certainly strengthen the hand of hard-line conservatives, from anti-Islam popular intellectuals like Eric Zemmour and Michel Houellebecq to right wing extremists like Marine Le Pen. There are important regional elections coming up next month, and these attacks could seal the National Front’s victory in several regional governments."

Think that reason for the attacks is a stretch? Read this article, and you may not:
http://therealnews.com/t2/component/content/article/475-susan-cain-and-mark-mason/2558-demystifying-us-and-israeli-power

Posted by: ben | Nov 14, 2015 10:40:09 AM | 81

I see Facebook wasted no time with a 'we're safe' feature. Now there's a support Paris profile filter.

Posted by: dh | Nov 14, 2015 10:42:21 AM | 82

French media do not report about the arrest in Bavaria (possibly the 8th guy, coz the IS communiqué mentions an attack in the 18th district of Paris that did not happen.
Neither do they report on the number of attackers who fled.
BBC reports a train crash in Strasbourg.

Posted by: Mina | Nov 14, 2015 10:51:43 AM | 83

For a few days now, the US MCM (Mainstream Corporate Media, which includes, ever more firmly, public broadcasting) has been touting with great praise the military moves within northern Iraq, the taking back of Sinjar, etc. There is talk of how the western forces (aka US military) and its allies will move into northern Syria, and so forth. Oh, and the alleged death of Jihadi John by US drone attack(s?) has gotten an amazing amount of air time, with lots of replay of his known beheading victims.

Terra, terra, terra! Now amplified by the horrific killings in Paris.

The only mention of Russia and its efforts in Syria have been the usual "Russia targets only the rebels against Assad," with no mention of the moves and successes Russia and the Syrian government have made to take back Aleppo and to secure the airport necessary to allow Russia to make more forays into the eastern area of Syria.

I don't listen/watch perpetually, but has anyone paying attention to the US MCM heard any reporting on how the Russian actions are affecting the Syrian situation?

Following the US MCM is like falling down the rabbit hole....

Posted by: jawbone | Nov 14, 2015 10:54:29 AM | 84

N43 @ 74 --

Progressive Paris -- I covered that in "a trendy eatery." It's made me rethink. Perhaps it was bro-country fans, they're always packin' and will often do stoopid stuph while hitting the 'shine.

Posted by: rufus magister | Nov 14, 2015 11:04:22 AM | 85

@84 Reuters did mention SAA successes somewhat grudgingly....

http://news.yahoo.com/syrian-army-captures-village-aleppo-province-monitor-state-113912327.html

Beyond that we are learning about the Green Beret's victory in Sinjar (with help from various disorganized Kurdish factions)....and Russia has a lot of new monster weapons ready to be unleashed on Europe.

Posted by: dh | Nov 14, 2015 11:06:35 AM | 86

I find it interesting that:

> US coalition just recently got serious about ISIS (See MoA post Today's Battle Progress In Iraq and Syria)

> That France in particular, had recently stepped up its involvment (and got to sell those warships to Egypt).

> That France had not invoked NATO Article 4 after the Hebdo attacks and thereby force Turkey to stop assisting ISIS.

> That this attack furthers the interests of the US-led coalition vs. the Russia-Iran coalition. In fact, just a few days ago, the US Air force called for ground troops to attack ISIS and occupy Syriaqistan. Yesterday's attacks means the public will support such an effort.

Would ISIS make a stand against the US-led coalition or "melt away" (for the most part) knowing that the territory they now hold will be in Sunni-friendly hands (the US-led coalition includes Gulf States and KSA)?

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Nov 14, 2015 11:22:34 AM | 87

Who are the terrorist supporters? This should help. British Foreign Secretary William Hague said on Friday that the one-million-pound aid package includes communications equipment, vehicles, generators and medical kits.
“I am now lifting the hold on those plans to deliver equipment to the Supreme Military Council of the Free Syrian Army in Syria,” Hague said in a written statement to the UK parliament.http://friendsofsyria.info/index.php/2014/05/03/uk-to-resume-aid-to-al-qaeda-terrorists-in-syria/
Speaking with Lebanon’s Daily Star, Bassel Idriss, commander of an FSA-run rebel brigade, openly discussed the group’s joint operations with ISIS and the Al-Nusra Front.
“We are collaborating with the Islamic State and the Nusra Front by attacking the Syrian Army’s gatherings in … Qalamoun,” Idriss said. “Let’s face it: The Nusra Front is the biggest power present right now in Qalamoun and we as FSA would collaborate on any mission they launch as long as it coincides with our values.”http://www.infowars.com/syrian-rebel-commander-yes-were-still-collaborating-with-isis-and-al-qaeda/

Posted by: harry law | Nov 14, 2015 11:23:05 AM | 88

I wish to extend my sorrow and condolences to the innocents that are camped out in "the jungle" of Calais. They will be the next victims of this blow back.

Posted by: Peter Pan | Nov 14, 2015 11:33:19 AM | 89

there are no innocents camped out in the jungle of Calais. All there illegally, hoping for more illegal actions to be profitable for them.

Posted by: Mischi | Nov 14, 2015 11:37:12 AM | 90

That's the most important thing one has to do before martyrdom:
make sure one's carrying his own passport.

Who knows?
Authorities may ask for documentation when one's commuting before reaching target...
Yeah, sure, tell me more.

Posted by: citizen X | Nov 14, 2015 11:57:44 AM | 91

"False flag" may mean different things. For example, by using your agents inside a "genuine terrorist organization" you can steer a group to do what you want. Turkey's MIT (their equivalent of CIA) was theorized to do that, having some agents in PKK, IS and what not. There can be also a deal on top level, like "you attack my domestic enemies, and we will give you this and that, but also some little shit to show that we fight you, unfortunately some appearances are necessary".

These types of false flag are quite safe, because for ground level operators everything is genuine. However, in France it is hard to tell who would bother to promote mayhem in that manner, "Resistance" and Russia may gain very marginally, much too little to do it.

To me, a larger picture is the predominant wrong narrative of "root causes". Immigrants suffering from crappy jobs, prejudice and unemployment are in some periods attracted to terrorist organizations, but not most of the time. For example, there was a period when "terrorist" were totally secular anarchists. Nevertheless, most of individuals who abandon a struggle for gainful lawful employment and make a living, family etc. join some gangs, neighborhood toughs or more mafia-style. Other may join some cults, and so on. One aspect that changes things are wars. War, if you think about it, is an insane behavior, and alters the thinking of participants, even vicarious participants. Secondly, many participants become good at killing, "those who live to tell the tale". And the longer a war last, the more deranged the participants.

Sometimes you may ask: why do they do this shit? Do they have to, say, exterminate a wedding with precision weapons, or a food market with barrel bombs and so on. Perhaps they do not have to, but they are deranged by war. Enemy population is by definition not innocent (no innocent enemies, no way!), so when more valuable targets are harder to trace, why not go after enemies that are easy to see and kill, be it a market, a wedding or a whole fucking city (in WWII). And then there is derangement of vicarious participants, some of whom we cited; not as uncouth as literally writing that Ruskies and Hez got what they asked for by having a passenger plane blown up and bombs in a residential "Hezbollah stronghold", but almost explicitly writing so.

And the hallmark of the insane is the denial. I found that it is next to impossible to convince someone that incineration of whole cities is a bad thing. We are talking about educated folks who vicariously participated in WWII by reading books or watching movies. And currently Muslim immigrants in Europe are vicarious participants in bloody wars, and some are actual former participants. While in countries like Afghanistan, Syria and Libya basically everybody has traumatic stress disorder (not post traumatic, since the shit is ongoing). So the question is if "The West" is an innocent victim here?

To the degree that The West foments wars and concomitant insanity, not really. And wars were, and are, fomented in too many ways to list in a short post, but the chief ways is to bomb directly, assist bombing campaigns, provide weapons, money, training, and encouraging "our partner countries in the region" to do it, including proving rebels with weapons that by agreement, cannot be distributed without a permission. Which, alas, creates an unhealthy mental environment that can reach back home.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Nov 14, 2015 12:00:07 PM | 92

#Hezbollah Secretary General #Nasrallah will speak @ 9:30pm tonight #Lebanon local time. The 4 suicide bomber was apprehended, he will have squealed by now, this is an unscheduled speech.

Posted by: papa | Nov 14, 2015 12:00:58 PM | 93

the front page of MoA scales - i.e., at full screen it looks great, at 60% it re-flows and word wrap shortens the text lines and keeps it readable...
however, going to an article page it's in a table 1663 px wide and it will not flow... so the lines of text get chopped off...
makes it impossible to read... maybe you can fix that? I'd never noticed it but I sent links to people who use iPads n smartphones and they told me about the trouble they are having...

You do terrific stuff - keep at it!!

btw, the email address on the About page doesn't work

Posted by: hjmler | Nov 14, 2015 12:02:25 PM | 94

thanks b.. this is such a sad development in a long line of developments that one can pretty well see coming.

@50 okie quote "Syria passport found on one the suicide bombers. At the football stadium." reminds me of the line of mohamad atta's password found in the wreckage of the world trade centre.. i see @70 Neretva'43 extends on my viewpoint.

@62 virgile.. good commentary. thanks.

@63 Neretva'43.. i agree with assad.. their isn't any difference between the incident in beirut and paris, or only in terms of location and degree.. same whackos the west have openly supported in their effort to overthrow assad.

@68 mina.. thanks

@87 jackrabbit quote "> That this attack furthers the interests of the US-led coalition vs. the Russia-Iran coalition. In fact, just a few days ago, the US Air force called for ground troops to attack ISIS and occupy Syriaqistan. Yesterday's attacks means the public will support such an effort." i agree with your conclusion.

@89 peter pan.. i share your sentiment.

Posted by: james | Nov 14, 2015 12:20:38 PM | 95

French bombings? Target: Syria

The French bombings, whether a false flag or not, couldn't have been done by poor, recently arrived, disenfranchised refugees. That is idiotic thinking driven by visceral bigotry. An operation of this kind needs a large logistic and support network, security houses, transportation, weapons stashing, documents counterfeiting, target acquisition, surveillance, rehearsals on site, encrypted communications, high levels of compartmentalization and more than basic knowledge of clandestine operations.

This was not a rag-tag guerrilla launching a media coup. Urban guerrilla operations are far more complicated and dangerous than countryside, rural ambushes/attacks. The possibilities of a mistake ruining the operation are higher, given the more populated environment, chance encounters, suspicious neighbors, and large concentration of the security apparatus. An attack of this kind has to be carried away by a well-trained, highly disciplined military organization, and in this particular case, it could have been either helped by a foreign intel organization, or by a domestic one, either actively or by laissez-faire, laissez-passer. After the attack on stupid Charlie Hebdo, one would have expected the French to elevate their security levels, and be able to nip in the bud yesterday's attacks.

As it is his usual, b offered us a well supported bird-view of the attack and its political background, setting the tone for an amazingly rich comment section, with a few exceptions. Thank you b, and everyone else who has contributed to the debunking of the lies and deceit behind the latest French comedy, with Hollande as the main clown. No clandestine military operative worth its name will carry a passport to an operation where he/she is expected to die, unless they have been offered a fly to Beirut via Air France in case of survival, in lieu of the 72 virgins. Declaring the attack as an "act of war" calls in NATO's dogs, with Dr. Strangelove and his Norwegian Spitz Stoltenberg, who never stopped barking at the Russian bear, ready to go in support of the "Charles de Gaulle" Syrian General Mohammed Issa promised to blow into bits if it nears the Syrian coast. I truly hope he is serious.

Now we can only wait for the French comedy and the MSM circus to quiet down, to see what will be the fall out of the French 9/11. Hollande is one of the few French presidents I could call an idiot, usually, right or left, they are very smart. Hollande is the exception. He might decide to make the reaction to this attack the mark of his presidency, and with that, he could dig further down the hole, or make some corrections to his shortsighted policy vis-à-vis Syria.

Let us wait and see.

Posted by: Lone Wolf | Nov 14, 2015 12:38:09 PM | 96

They now believe the attacks were carried out by a cell in Brussels. One of the cars at the scene of the attack returned to Belgium. Belgium police have been making arrests

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/11/14/france-anti-terror-police-search-for-potential-accomplices-in-paris-attacks/

Posted by: Les | Nov 14, 2015 12:46:51 PM | 97

But when Russia and friends killed hundreds of these exact same ISIL terrorists around and at the Kweiers airbase in Syria only a few days before, it was received in the West by regretful and deliberate silence.

Posted by: tom | Nov 14, 2015 12:49:25 PM | 98

Deputy in France's National Assembly Jacques Myard told Sputnik France that the Paris terror attacks force France to reconsider its foreign policy objectives.

A deputy in France's National Assembly has called on French politicians to reconsider the country's foreign policy in the aftermath of Friday's terrorist attacks in Paris, the deadliest in the country's history. Six separate strikes on the city's residents left at least 128 people dead and another 180 injured.

"It's very simple, we are at war. We are fighting against different kinds of jihadists and the Islamic State," Jacques Myard, who is a deputy for the Les Republicains party in France's lower house of parliament.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/world/20151114/1030104873/france-foreign-policy-syria.html#ixzz3rUOpUjJB

Posted by: okie farmer | Nov 14, 2015 12:52:10 PM | 99

If we bleed, it leads. If "they" bleed, we bury it. Simple.

Posted by: Ananymus | Nov 14, 2015 12:53:45 PM | 100

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