Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
May 06, 2015

It's Official: The U.S. Collaborates With Al Qaeda

The propaganda against Syria is milking the capture of Idlib city by Jabhat al-Nusra and assorted other Islamist groups. The general tone is "Assad is losing" illogically combined with a demand that the U.S. should now bomb the Syrian government troops. Why would that be necessary if the Syrian government were really losing control?

A prime example comes via Foreign Policy from Charles Lister, an analyst from Brooking Doha, which is  paid with Qatari money but often cooperating with the Obama administration. That headline declares that Assad is losing and the assault on Idlib is lauded in the highest tone. Then the piece admits that this small victory against retreating Syrian troops was only possible because AlQaeda was leading in the assault.

The piece admits that the U.S. which wants to balance between AlQaeda and the Syrian government forces prolonging the conflict in the hope that both sides will lose, was behind that move:

The involvement of FSA groups, in fact, reveals how the factions’ backers have changed their tune regarding coordination with Islamists. Several commanders involved in leading recent Idlib operations confirmed to this author that the U.S.-led operations room in southern Turkey, which coordinates the provision of lethal and non-lethal support to vetted opposition groups, was instrumental in facilitating their involvement in the operation from early April onwards. That operations room — along with another in Jordan, which covers Syria’s south — also appears to have dramatically increased its level of assistance and provision of intelligence to vetted groups in recent weeks.

Whereas these multinational operations rooms have previously demanded that recipients of military assistance cease direct coordination with groups like Jabhat al-Nusra, recent dynamics in Idlib appear to have demonstrated something different. Not only were weapons shipments increased to the so-called “vetted groups,” but the operations room specifically encouraged a closer cooperation with Islamists commanding frontline operations.

The U.S. led operations room encouraged cooperation between the Islamists of the so called Fee Syrian Army and AlQaeda. A U.S. drone, shot down over Latakia in March, was gathering intelligence for the AlQaeda attack on Idlib. More that 600 TOW U.S. anti-tank missiles have been used against Syrian troops in north Syria. These are part of the 14,000 the Saudis had ordered from the U.S. producer.

Even if the U.S., as now admitted, would not officially urge its mercenaries to cooperate with Jabhat al-Nusra such cooperation was always obvious to anyone who dared to look:

In southern Syria [..] factions that vowed to distance themselves from extremists like Jabhat al-Nusra in mid-April were seen cooperating with the group in Deraa only days later.

The reality is that the directly U.S. supported, equipped and paid "moderate" Fee Syrian Army Jihadi mercenaries are just as hostile to other sects as the AlQaeda derivative Jabhat al-Nusra and the Islamic State. They may not behead those who they declare to be unbelievers but they will kill them just as much.

While the U.S. is nurturing AlQaeda in Syria, Turkey is taking care of the Islamic State. Tons of Ammonium Sulfate, used to make road side bombs, is "smuggled" from Turkey to the Islamic State under official eyes. Turkish recruiters incite Muslims from the Turkman Uighur people in west China and from Tajikistan to emigrate to the Islamic State. They give away Turkish passports to allow those people to travel to Turkey from where they reach Syria and Iraq. Meanwhile the Saudis bomb everyone and everything in Yemen except the cities and areas captured by AlQaeda in the Arab Peninsula.

The U.S. and its allies are now in full support of violent Sunni Jihadists throughout the Middle East. At the same time they use the "threat of AlQaeda" to fearmonger and suppress opposition within their countries.

Charles Lister and the other Brooking propagandists want the U.S. to bomb Syria to bring the Assad government to the table to negotiate. But who is the Syrian government to negotiate with? AlQaeda?

Who would win should the Syrian government really lose the war or capitulate? The U.S. supported "moderate rebels" Islamist, who could not win against the Syrian government, would then take over and defeat AlQaeda and the Islamic State?

Who comes up with such phantasies?

Posted by b on May 6, 2015 at 03:37 AM | Permalink

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The goal in Syria has always been to either overthrow Assad and replace him with a stooge or bleed the Syrian state till it became more amenable to US demands.

The first scenario was blocked by Russia and China blocking any Chapter 7 intervention in the UN and so the US seems to have gone for option 2, bleed the state until it becomes more pliant to US demands.

US demands of course being it ceases co-operating with the resistance axis, Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas (although relations with Hamas became frazzled when Hamas took the opposite side in the Syrian war).

Posted by: lacilir | May 6, 2015 4:02:12 AM | 1

As Ed Husain stated back in 2012:

The Syrian rebels would be immeasurably weaker today without al-Qaeda in their ranks. By and large, Free Syrian Army (FSA) battalions are tired, divided, chaotic, and ineffective. Feeling abandoned by the West, rebel forces are increasingly demoralized as they square off with the Assad regime's superior weaponry and professional army. Al-Qaeda fighters, however, may help improve morale. The influx of jihadis brings discipline, religious fervor, battle experience from Iraq, funding from Sunni sympathizers in the Gulf, and most importantly, deadly results. In short, the FSA needs al-Qaeda now.

http://www.cfr.org/syria/al-qaedas-specter-syria/p28782

The US seems to have fully embraced this reality.

Posted by: lacilir | May 6, 2015 4:06:19 AM | 2

Evil madness

Such madness and evil will boomerang into the US eventually. It has always worked this way historically and I don't think there is anything new under the sun to change this.

Posted by: Groover | May 6, 2015 4:27:59 AM | 3

To the US and other western governments in that area ;) it probably does not matter too much, who rules "Syria", as long as they don't own any serious military hardware.
I'm not an expert ;) but looking at the past three years, my conclusion about the goals of the "west" would be: support the local militias just as much that they can destroy as many tanks, helis, air defence and aircraft as possible. Ideally, have them use up all the anti-tank weapons we give them, so, when they've "won", they're sitting on rubble with nothing but handguns.
A second goal, maybe more of the regional enemies, would obviously be to drive out of the "former syrian territory" all non-sunni population. Severe the head of one, have 1000 flee to elsewhere,

Posted by: radiator | May 6, 2015 5:06:01 AM | 4

Well, that about does it. The U.S is completely deranged and there's no hope.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 6, 2015 5:33:20 AM | 5

Prince Bandar bin Sultan, former Saudi Arabia ambassador to the United States and former intelligence chief of Saudi Arabia, said several years ago, "The time is not far off in the Middle East, when it will be literally 'God help the Shia.' More than a billion Sunnis have simply had enough of them." The late King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia had called for bombing of Iran by the United States. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/muhammad-sahimi/saudi-attack-yemen-iran-west_b_6965542.html The Kings crowns are at stake, Iranian influence in the arc of resistance is what terrifies these sectarian perverts. fortunately,it would appear that the 'arc' has the backing of Russia and China. The Iranians surely know regime change in Syria would also mean Hezbollah would be caught in a pincer movement between a hostile Syria, and Israel.They cannot afford to let that happen. I suspect that there are not enough head choppers or anti human Islamists available to achieve that task, the majority of the Syrian army are after all of the Sunni persuasion. One day I hope to see the Kings of the GCC all hanging from lamp posts.

Posted by: harry law | May 6, 2015 9:02:23 AM | 7

@Anonymous@5

Well, that about does it. The U.S is completely deranged and there's no hope.

There is always hope. Russia, China, and Iran know they come next in the list if they don't stop Al-Qaeda hydra in Syria/Iraq et al. Russian intelligence has declared ISIS a threat for Russia, the Chinese have been battling the Uighurs for long time now, and now they are being trained by the US to become a fifth-column on their return to China. Iran is in the surroundings, and have been preparing ever since the war with Iraq for a military maelstrom of gigantic proportions. Idlib was taken by a coalition of taqfiris renamed "Army of Conquest," the same coalition getting ready to fight Hezbollah in the Qalamoun barrens facing Lebanon, for control of the heights that open to the Bekaa Valley. Shaykh Hassan Nasrallah declared a couple of days ago the battle for Qalamoun has reached high noon, and its start won't be announced. On the taking of Idlib he stated any war is a pendulum with battles lost and won, and dismissed the propaganda war b has just denounced as part of the psy-op war. The onslaught suffering by Syria is flabbergasting, with US/Turkey training 15 thousand more taqfiris to throw into the war, the purpose, Nasrallah denounced, is to keep the Axis of Resistance, and in general the Arab war, in a 100 year war. What we are seeing now, the dismembering of Iraq, the war of attrition on Syria, the destruction of Libya, the bombing of Yemen, the attack on Lebanon, was planned long ago by the neocons as a strategy for Israel, in a paper called "A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm." It is all there, the rest, like the dismemberment of Iraq, the bombing of Libya, etc., are perks that came as they unfolded the strategy for destruction of the Arab/Muslim world.

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Posted by: Lone Wolf | May 6, 2015 9:43:48 AM | 8

Sorry about that mess with the link, for some reason I am having troubles posting it.

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Posted by: Lone Wolf | May 6, 2015 9:46:10 AM | 9

It doesn't work. It appears so on preview, once posted it get all messy. Erase the dashes before pasting it, it will work.

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Posted by: Lone Wolf | May 6, 2015 9:53:09 AM | 10

Mmmmmm, the more things change, the more they stay the same. An older video from TRNN:

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=12278

Posted by: ben | May 6, 2015 10:09:49 AM | 11

I'm not surprised. I live in AmeriKa and have long since lost any illusions as to what our overseers are up to. The mask has slipped.
Some lowlives with a lot of money saw the multiethnic, secualr Syrian state as a problem. This dirty war for them is more profitable, double plus good as they have a youthful demographic they can set upon one another without the political messiness of overt and armed intervention of uniformed AmeriKan boots on the ground. Whatever is not staged is completely manufactured, combining the two things AmeriKa does with great relish these days: PR spin and controlled chaos.
The only thing amusing in this sad tale of wanton aggression is to watch Obama supporters fumble and mumble and make excuses for his bullshit and how a Republican doing the same thing would be cause for grave concern.
Can't have any blood splash back on that shiny Peace Prize now can he?

Posted by: farflungstar | May 6, 2015 11:15:30 AM | 12

Great post, b. The success of the Islamist coalition in Idlib is the smoking gun that links U.S./GCC to Al Qaeda and the whole sordid efflorescence of Wahhabi jihadi groups. This can no longer be rationally debated. The MSM reports on it all the time. It floats beneath the surface of popular consciousness like a huge sea monster. Where are the unsigned editorials fulminating against U.S. hypocrisy?

An interesting story in today's paper is dissension in the ranks of Qatar's Al Jazeera America.

Posted by: Mike Maloney | May 6, 2015 11:41:31 AM | 13

thanks b.. ditto mike's comments @13.. where are the unsigned editorials fulminating against us hypocrisy? as gil scott heron was saying 'the revolution won't be televised'..

Posted by: james | May 6, 2015 1:07:36 PM | 14

The reasons that the USA appear to support troops on the side of Saudi Arabia are fairly clear.
The USA administration is concerned by the negative consequences of the Iran nuclear deal on its relation with Saudi Arabian and the GCC.
Obama is trying to calm down the Saudis by appearing to support their adventurism in Yemen and Syria. He invited the whole GCC to camp David in May and is mulling offering them weapons that the US only supplies to Israel. Obama's real strategy is to quietly push the GCC to find a common ground for a peace with Iran.

Not to hamper these diplomatic moves, Iran has also been preempted from interfering in Syria after the Sunni Islanmic Axis ( Turkey, Saudi Arabia,Qatar) have boosted their militias with money and weapons.

All this will change should the deal is signed.

Until then Saudi Arabia is upping its provocation and accusations on Iran hoping that Iran will make a last bad move that could delay or jeopardize the signature of the Nuclear deal.
The SIA knows well that they have just a month to make as much gain as possible in Syria and Yemen while the USA is allowing them to.
After that they will have to face a choice: Either they would antagonize Iran further and risk retaliation and the disapproval of the USA, or they bow to make a peace deal with Iran.

Posted by: Virgile | May 6, 2015 1:15:13 PM | 15

The most effective resistance against Israel consisted of broad coalitions consisting of Christian, secular and Islamic groups. These were the panArab organizations inspired by Nasser and given substance in the Palestinian resistance by the PLO. Israel knew this was a problem. That is why they supported Hamas in the late 1970s when it first appeared. They quite explicitly supported Hamas in order to undermine the PLO. That has proven very effective in splitting Palestinian resistance into two warring camps centered respectively in Gaza and the West Bank.

The US has discovered this formula. That is why we continue to support the Islamist groups who are more interested in killing fellow Muslims rather than fighting against Israel. It is quite amazing that Al qaida, ISIS or whatever handle they carry these days has never attacked an Israeli target. As we all know Al nusra today in Southern Syria is being actively supported by the Israeli military in the form of medical, "humanitarian" aid and the occasional bombing raid against the Syrian army. US and Israeli support for these terrorist Islamic forces is so transparent that what is puzzling is why this has not been exposed in the western media. Editors and reporters must know this stuff and are deliberately avoiding these stories.

Posted by: ToivoS | May 6, 2015 1:39:12 PM | 16

ToivoS, actually Hamas was created by Shin Bet. And you draw a very accurate picture The US has discovered this formula.
Yep.

Posted by: okie farmer | May 6, 2015 2:03:18 PM | 17

Wonder if Harry Truman's comment after Hitler invaded Russia in 1941 applies to current US Mideast policies. To paraphrase if the Germans are winning we should help the Russians, if the Russians are winning we should help the Germans. That way let them kill as many as possible

Posted by: Andoheb | May 6, 2015 3:15:21 PM | 19

@g_h@18@

Thanks! Those two are key documents to understand the current drive of the aptly baptized "Empire of Chaos" and its minions.

Posted by: Lone Wolf | May 6, 2015 3:16:07 PM | 20

The word AL-CIADA's lost it's scary factor in the West.. It's almost become acceptable/mainstream word... These days, Western journos refer to them in different terms, depending on the circumstances and location. How times change!!!

In Syria they're referred to as "rebels", "militants","Assad's opponent" and the best one "moderate Islamists".

In Iraq, they're referred to as "Sunni rebels", "oppressed Sunni fighters" etc.

In Yemen AL_CIADA's knowns as "president" Hadi's forces, "Sunni rebels"

It gets to to point where you just wonder if these people scripting the "news" must really think the rest of us simpletons are so stupid not to notice the contradictions... We now have Western journos doing free propaganda for AL-CIADA :)

Posted by: Zico | May 6, 2015 3:53:36 PM | 21

b says:

Who would win should the Syrian government really lose the war or capitulate? The U.S. supported "moderate rebels" Islamist, who could not win against the Syrian government, would then take over and defeat AlQaeda and the Islamic State?

Who comes up with such phantasies?

the guys from General Electric, Honeywell, Raytheon, General Dynamics, Northrop Grumann, etc...

and the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

Posted by: john | May 6, 2015 4:08:06 PM | 23

Good article by B.

The following is nothing new, but adds more to what we already
know, i.e, israeli cooperation with al-ciada terrorists.
Article from 2 days ago.
http://www.mintpressnews.com/israel-fuels-the-syrian-crisis-with-aid-to-al-qaida-rebels/205262/

Posted by: Luca K | May 6, 2015 4:22:13 PM | 24

Price of oil has been rising. FT: Dollar under pressure as oil keeps rising (subscription required).

Posted by: lysias | May 6, 2015 4:55:30 PM | 25

Lone Wolf said:
"What we are seeing now ... was planned long ago by the neocons as a strategy for Israel, in a paper called "A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm." It is all there, the rest, like the dismemberment of Iraq, the bombing of Libya, etc., are perks that came as they unfolded the strategy for destruction of the Arab/Muslim world."

It was also contemplated 140 years ago by Pike:

"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other".
http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike2.htm

I doubt that this old scheme to eliminate independent cultures will succeed - there is more awareness and heavenly input today than could be envisioned in the 19th century.

Posted by: Christoph (German) | May 6, 2015 4:56:51 PM | 26


The Internal Displacement Monitoring Centre (IMDC) has published its Global Overview 2015: people internally displaced by conflict and violence.

Total displaced 38,000,000 people. Just 4 of the US/EU/KSA's joint operations account for nearly a third of that total.

Syria alone accounts for 1 in 5.


7,600,000 Syria
3,276,000 Iraq
  646,500 Urkaine
  334,100 Yemen
===============
11,856,600 total

Posted by: jfl | May 6, 2015 7:45:24 PM | 27

@16

The US/Israel have not split Palestinian resistance. Hamas is the only organized resistance left to the Palestinians, to my knowledge.

What's left of the PLO is a wholly owned subsidiary of USrael. It's CEO, Mahmoud Abbas, is worth at least $100,000,000 at this point, payment for services rendered.

Maybe he should be an Emir, or be awarded some other fitting subaltern title.

Posted by: jfl | May 6, 2015 8:02:09 PM | 28

@MM#13:

Just a few paragraphs from the bottom of the article is the main reason the NYT considers AJA's problems newsworthy:

In last week’s lawsuit, Matthew Luke, formerly the network’s director of media and archive management, said he had been fired after he complained to human resources about Osman Mahmud, the network’s senior vice president for broadcast operations and technology. The suit accused Mr. Mahmud of being anti-Semitic and sexist. “Whoever supports Israel should die a fiery death in hell,” he said in the office, according to the suit.

There is certainly no mention of AJ's reflection of Qatar's politics on Syria (or the Muslim Brotherhood in general). AJ certainly has lost credibility with me since the beginning of the "Arab Spring."

Posted by: Rusty Pipes | May 6, 2015 8:48:28 PM | 29

Another way of looking at B's title is; Al-Qaeda collaborates with the US Empire.

Since, we all know that because Jihadi terrorists can't ultimately be controlled, then they themselves will be in for a taste of regime change. It's the Libyan strategy ( that is still playing out ) of US terrorist proxy army who can't be unlitmately controlled to follow the hegemony orders, so to be replaced by a military dictatorship loyal to the US Empire when their work has been done for MIC/Washington.

Posted by: tom | May 6, 2015 9:17:22 PM | 30

On the issue of lack of media coverage, it's just so much more ignorable by the press when the US terrorist State isn't themselves doing the terrorising-on-the-ground. Some propagandists call it boots on the ground.

The criminal media and most of the people prefer it that way, so the US, ISIS and Al Qaeda oblige them.

Posted by: tom | May 6, 2015 9:22:48 PM | 31

@GD#22:

Of course, you wouldn't know it from the NYT's coverage that its source, the White Helmets, is not an innocuous humanitarian NGO, but a creation of the neolib PR organization associated with AVAAZ, which has pushed for humanitarian bombing corridors for Libya and Syria since the start of the Arab Spring. Another source is from SAMS (the Syrian American Medical Society) which has been deeply involved in supporting the insurgency:

“People are so used to it, they know from the sound,” said Hatem Abu Marwan, 29, a rescue worker with the White Helmets civil defense organization, a note of weary exasperation creeping into his voice when asked to explain. “We know the sound of a helicopter that goes to a low height and drops a barrel. Nobody has aircraft except the regime.” Prodded by the United States, the United Nations Security Council is discussing a draft resolution that would create a panel, reporting to the secretary general, to determine which of the warring parties is responsible for using chlorine as a weapon, according to Council diplomats. ... Frustrated with the Security Council’s impasse over the issue, rescue workers and doctors are now working to bring evidence of chlorine gas attacks directly to the French, British and American governments for testing. The aim is to give states a solid basis for action against the attacks, in the Security Council or through quieter diplomatic pressure, said James Le Mesurier, the British director of a nonprofit group, Mayday Rescue, which trains and equips the White Helmets, Syrian volunteers supported by the British, Danish and Dutch governments. ... Civilians fled the town the next day, said Dr. Mohammad Tennari, a friend of the family and the head of Sarmeen’s hospital. The attack left a tantalizing clue: A crude barrel bomb like those seen falling from helicopters landed unexploded in a nearby field. Inside were a household gas canister and a plastic bottle of viscous purplish liquid, according to rescue workers and images from the site. Dr. Tennari, who works with the Syrian American Medical Society, showed images of corroded, mangled oblong canisters, punctured on one side, and the remnants of a metal barrel strewn across a field in Sarmeen. A video, taken Sunday in the town of Khansafra, shows a barrel dropping from a helicopter and rescue workers holding up a portion of a canister labeled in English. The camera shakes, blurring all but a few words: “hazard,” “may cause irritation,” “caution,” “breathing.”

But at least there is a handy map, a reminder that the location of the purported chemical attacks is around 15 miles from the border with Turkey -- a country that has been working overtime to try to convince America to fully back the insurgency, which has a wide variety of advanced military equipment -- including helicopters.

Posted by: Rusty Pipes | May 6, 2015 9:23:01 PM | 32

B:

It is worth remembering that AIPAC began taking over Brookings over a decade ago, expanding from the Saban Center to Brookings Doha to Indyk's promotion within Brookings itself. Elected Democrats have to lend an ear to Brookings' appeals to keep major donors, like Saban, happy. Until the Iran deal is finally sealed, the Obama administration is giving the Israel Lobby and Saudi and GCC Lobbies enough of what they want to try to prevent them from sabotaging the deal. Now that Netanyahu has finally cemented a government, Kerry should be able to announce an Iran deal any day now.

Posted by: Rusty Pipes | May 6, 2015 9:44:21 PM | 33

All this rampant and self-indulgent cowardice and stupidity being put on public display by the dumbass Yankees, reminded me so much of the movie Caine Mutiny that I Googled Captain Queeg seeking inspiration.

Oops! Others have had similar thoughts ... the row of Captain Queeg pics at the top of the page includes several depicting Queeg with Obama's head photo-shopped onto them.

Time to stop believing Neocon Bullshit and grow some balls, Barry. And admit that you're the CIC of a Ship Of (embarrassingly deceitful, cowardly, and incompetent) Fools.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 6, 2015 11:00:52 PM | 34

This news won't surprise anyone familiar with the correct spelling of Al-CIA-duh.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 6, 2015 11:08:18 PM | 35

@23 john,

The heads of all those corporations you listed work for the cadre of centuries old inherited families that own the Western world including Western finance.

And the Joint Chiefs of Staff know who these folks are that control the mythical "animal spirits" of economics and funds their toys of global suppression and "population control".

So, what is an opposed mind to do about it? Create textual white noise like this.........

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 7, 2015 1:02:23 AM | 36

In term of numbers, ISIS and Al-qaeda are exactly as large as the CIA and Washington needed them to be to destroy the Syrian regime, Houthi resistance in Yemen, Iraqi chaos, and whatever else they have planned for the future.
And when the numbers aren't enough or though of as getting a bit too big for their boots, they get supplied advanced weaponry that will turn the tide for the Empire. For e.g. weapons like TOW's.
Weapons which btw, will never have the ability and/or amount, to cause a problem for ISIS and Al Qaeda turn for being obliterated by the air or sea by the US, where and when and if desirable.

Posted by: tom vuckovic | May 7, 2015 2:19:25 AM | 37

@ psychohistorian:

yeah, white noise will proclaim our resistance.

when the pickings get real slim the 'corporate world' will commence eating itself. at which point the 'corporate world' may well become our most viable salvation. 'til then our inheritors, the unimaginitive and cynical motherfuckers that they are, will continue to squander our complacent and acquiescent existence, as we all deteriorate our environs ever further.

i'd say we still have quite a few decades to go, but i'm not looking for points of no return.

Posted by: john | May 7, 2015 5:51:21 AM | 38

unimaginative, that is

Posted by: john | May 7, 2015 5:57:34 AM | 39

After a careful reading of the FP report and comparing it with the cherry-picking, projections, branding and omissions in b's offering I wonder if he is moonlighting for SANA.

Nowhere does this report claim that al-Nusra led the attack on Idlib in fact it contests those claims stating that Ahrar al-Sham and Jaish al-Islam were the leaders. It does claim that the US, Saudis, Qatar and Turkey are coordinating and assisting their different groups to work together as a united front against Assad and including the smaller al Nusra. It also states that this expanded support by the US of the Islamist factions is also to counter the growing strength of al-Nusra and eventually the Islamic State who many of the other groups are deeply suspicious of.

Posted by: Wayoutwest | May 7, 2015 1:02:25 PM | 40

Following up from Wayoutwest #40, I didn't read Charles Lister's report, but I'm unsurprised with Wayoutwest's finding that 'B' has overhyped the characterization of Jabhat al-Nusra in Lister's report. 'B' himself has been overhyping Jabhat al-Nusra and ISIS for the last year and longer. All rebel factions are Islamist (as Wayoutwest correctly says) and this is different from saying the rebel factions are predominantly Al-Nusra/ISIS (as 'B' incorrectly says).

Posted by: Ghubar Shabih | May 7, 2015 3:37:31 PM | 41

Yesterday, 6 May 2015, was the annual Martyr's Day in Syria. Assad give a short speech, http://sana.sy/en/?p=39378 , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqN7cWNTtd4 . In the speech he acknowledged that some government supporters are becoming afraid (al-khauf) after seeing some setbacks in the war. He said: victory requires faith in the necessity of victory. He called on everyone's faith in the inevitability of victory to remain unchanged by recent events in Idlib. He also said: When a Syrian army fighter believes in his cause and his victory, he gives the society morale when he wins a battle, and when the society believes in this fighter and this fight, it gives him morale when he loses a battle.

Posted by: Ghubar Shabih | May 7, 2015 3:56:44 PM | 42

Where Wow gets his ideas from, no-one knows. Jabhat al-Nusra is the major force in northwest Syria.

If the US is supporting these people, then they are supporting al-Qa'ida.

The question is more why the US is supporting them. If the US wanted peace in Syria, it would be easy to achieve, and a stop on Syrian refugees putting themselves on sinking boats, to be rescued by the Italians or Greeks. The fact is US powers don't care about the load put on Italy or Greece.

I find it disgusting that just for ephemeral political interests, the US is ready to see the destruction of an eternal Syrian heritage in their monuments, and the destruction of a historic people.

There's no interest for the US in this, so why the continual renewal of anti-Asad moves? I don't have to give you the answer - you know it already.

Posted by: Laguerre | May 7, 2015 4:09:33 PM | 43

do you work in the same office? i hope the pay is good! lolol...

Posted by: james | May 7, 2015 4:29:53 PM | 44

re 44. Who is that directed at?

Posted by: Laguerre | May 7, 2015 5:07:48 PM | 45

not you..

Posted by: james | May 7, 2015 5:16:40 PM | 46

Looks like some Western empire propaganda news services have begun to start accepting Al Qaeda as an alley against the lie of a greater evil in Bashar al Asad. And this from a Nation in the US, who generally adores the notion of "lesser Evil-ism" that is frequently revealed during elections.
If your a war propagandist, its a great way to piggy back on top of that lesser evil-ism, to openly admit working with Al Qaeda and ISIL, Even if it "accedently" means their weapons fall into jihadis hands when their goal is exactly the same - as well an " accident".

Posted by: tom | May 7, 2015 10:01:17 PM | 47

@Wayoutwest@40

After a careful reading of the FP report and comparing it with the cherry-picking, projections, branding and omissions in b's offering I wonder if he is moonlighting for SANA.

Wouldn't that be a projection of your role as a bullhorn for the taqfiri rats of JAN/ISIS and the coalition of head-choppers that keep metamorphosing into different monickers?

Nowhere does this report claim that al-Nusra led the attack on Idlib in fact it contests those claims stating that Ahrar al-Sham and Jaish al-Islam were the leaders.

Show us the quotes. Your word is not worth a kopiyka, if you don't have quotes, you're lying. Again. By disclosing which groups allegedly lead the attack on the second battle of Idlib, you're violating the rules imposed by your head-chopping, entrails-eaters "commanders," who ordered that,

"All operations stemming from the coordinated command center are done in the name of Jaish al-Fatah," he said, referring to the unified command. "It is forbidden to mention the name of any faction."

Syrian Insurgent Gains Expose Assad Weaknessesk to ACLU

Be careful, they might chop your head for not following the rules, and worse, they might show it is empty.

It does claim that the US, Saudis, Qatar and Turkey are coordinating and assisting their different groups to work together as a united front against Assad and including the smaller al Nusra. It also states that this expanded support by the US of the Islamist factions is also to counter the growing strength of al-Nusra and eventually the Islamic State who many of the other groups are deeply suspicious of.

JAN is the largest group in Idlib province, and all the MSM is pointing at them as leading the charge in Idlib. See for yourself.

'Army of Conquest' rebel alliance pressures Syria regime

Q: What is the Army of Conquest?

A: The coalition, whose formation was announced in March, comprises a range of mostly jihadist and Islamist groups, the most prominent being Al-Qaeda affiliate Al-Nusra Front and the powerful Islamist Ahrar al-Sham.

Qaeda, allies seize Syria's Idlib city in blow to regime

Al-Qaeda's Syrian affiliate and its allies seized on Saturday the city of Idlib, only the second provincial capital to be lost by the regime in more than four years of war...

...The coalition that seized Idlib city is made up of Al-Nusra Front, the official Syrian affiliate of Al-Qaeda, and several Islamist factions.

"Al-Nusra Front and its allies have captured all of Idlib," the Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said.

Posted by: Lone Wolf | May 7, 2015 10:43:39 PM | 48

Addendum to 48

It is a sham that Ahrar al-Sham is the leading organization, either in Idlib province or in the attack on Idlid. Ahrar al-Sham is an appendix to JAN, and it is being highlighted only to "hide" the US/AQ link, the latter having been declared a terrorist organization by the former, yet another sham. The taking of Idlib was costly for the taqfiri rats, close to a Pyrrhic victory, with an elevated number of casualties. The US and its minions wanted to make a show of force with the taking of Idlib by way of propaganda, giving the impression it was a "strategic" victory for the taqfiris. Many analysts, including Stratfor, which called it a "pivotal victory," gave a more sober analysis of the event, even when they have to toe the line with their patrons. Way-out-on-a-lie makes his twisted points by pretending a "different" interpretation of any event related to JAN/ISIS and the large list of head-choppers in Syria/Iraq/Lebanon/Iran. His "interpretations" attempt to question generally accepted facts among the MoA community, always pointing at the "bias" against his dear taqfiri rats. Wonder if he was recruited online, or if he was sent by JAN/ISIS et al as a hasbara troll in reverse, to fight a one-man war against the infidels.

Posted by: Lone Wolf | May 7, 2015 11:53:50 PM | 49

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-32617329
Islamic State conflict: US begins training Syrian rebels
The US military has begun training a small group of Syrian rebels in an effort to build a force capable of defeating Islamic State militants.

Ashton Carter, US defence secretary, said about 90 people were being trained in a secure location, and they would be paid by the United States.

He said more fighters would begin training soon at sites in Jordan, Turkey, Qatar and Saudi Arabia.

Supporting the troops militarily on the battlefield has not been ruled out.

Nearly 4,000 fighters volunteered for the programme but, after an extensive screening process, only 400 were given places.

Posted by: okie farmer | May 8, 2015 2:48:56 AM | 50

Laguerre
don't be naive.
sects make as much money world wide as drugs, weapons or prostitution.
destroying the sites of Syria, Irak and now Yemen, who all give traces countering the narratives offered in the "accepted" judeo-christian books is certainly profiting the major religions.

Posted by: Mina | May 8, 2015 3:33:54 AM | 51

"As a senior Iraqi opposition leader said recently: "Israel must rejuvenate and revitalize its moral and intellectual leadership. It is an important — if not the most important--element in the history of the Middle East." Israel — proud, wealthy, solid, and strong — would be the basis of a truly new and peaceful Middle East."

Urrk... Well that worked out well for PNAC-USUK, didn't it? Pammy Geller did her schtick on the eve of the Brit elections, and Cameron and the Rightists won. All is well in the world, as King Bush III waits to pick his VP from the pack of eager NeoCon wannabees and huckabees.

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Posted by: NoReply | May 8, 2015 6:33:47 AM | 52

Todays Lyingtimes claims US killed some AlCIAda leadership in Yemen.Houthis probably.(as in whats the diff to Americans)
And WAPO declares declining French nuclear energy prowess,and declares nuclear energy clean.oy.

Posted by: dahoit | May 8, 2015 10:24:02 AM | 53

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