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May 29, 2015

Imperial NYT: Each FIFA Member One Secret Vote Is "Strange Electoral Math"

The New York Times was tipped off about last weeks U.S. induced Swiss police raid on FIFA functionaries in Geneva. It seems to hold some grudge against the football association maybe because the U.S. lost its bid for the World Cup 2022 to Qatar.

It is obvious that the U.S. is trying to install its own puppet on top of FIFA. Their candidate is a member of the corrupt family of Jordanian king. It is not that the U.S. is against corruption. How would the situation be today if FIFA, like some huge banks, had given to the Clinton Foundation, Obama's presidential library or "lobbied" some Representatives and Senators?  Corruption is just fine in the U.S. as long as it works in its interest. But FIFA rules make it difficult for the U.S. to get its will.

The reason, says the New York Times, is "the strange electoral math of FIFA".

So what is strange with that math?

The members of FIFA are the national football associations. Each gets one vote. The voting is secret.

Imagine that. Every member has an equal vote and can vote as it likes without any real way to pressure it. That's strange? From the NYT piece:

Mr. Blatter is widely expected to win a fifth term on Friday — in a vote only miles from the luxury hotel where Wednesday’s arrests took place — in part because of FIFA’s electoral math. The FIFA president is elected by a one-vote-per-country poll of its 209 member federations, making the many smaller countries who support Mr. Blatter an effective counterweight to his unpopularity elsewhere, most notably in Europe.

One country one vote is indeed strange math. Imagine the UN would be run this way. How would the U.S. and other Security Council members get their will if every country had a real vote?

There is no proposal in the NYT piece on how to change that strange math. How would the U.S. like to have the votes arranged? Countries ranked by population numbers? China, India, Nigeria, Brazil would certainly love that arrangement. But their votes would likely not go the way the U.S. wants them to go. Countries'  votes ranked by local football popularity or historic football success? Portugal or some other small country might then have the greatest weight. The U.S. vote would rank somewhere at the very end of the list.

No. There is no better way to run FIFA than the way it is run today. A World Cup is a billion dollar business. The money collected by FIFA through TV licenses, advertisement and merchandizing is flowing back to the national soccer federations. They are supposed to use it to support and promote the sport. Unfortunately some corruption is inevitably involved in such a huge and complex business. The world will have to live with that. The alternative is to relinquish control over football to some totally unaccountable, likely U.S. controlled conglomerate. That would be the end of the game.

I suggested that the U.S. assault on FIFA for corruption cases going back to the early 1990s comes now  because FIFA will today vote on a Palestinian proposal to eject Israel for impeding Palestinian football. Taking the 2018 World Cup from Russia is a convenient but secondary target. Israel has conceded that it is guilty of hindering Palestinian football by offering concessions in bid 
to avert vote to oust it from FIFA. But those concessions are likely not enough:

The source said FIFA president Sepp Blatter welcomed Israel’s proposal but stressed it would need [chairman of the Palestinian Football Association] Rajoub’s consent before removing the vote on banning Israel from FIFA’s slate.

The source said Rajoub acceded, but added another demand – that FIFA ask UN Secretary Ban Ki-moon to issue a decision within three months on whether the five Israeli teams based in West Bank settlements were within Israeli territory.

FIFA regulations stipulate that teams not located within Israeli territory require the Palestinians’ consent to participate in Israeli leagues. Since the UN does not recognize the West Bank as part of Israel, the decision would de facto force Israel’s soccer federation to expel these teams from the league or run the risk of breaking FIFA’s rules.

The Palestinians should stick to this demand. Israel, like apartheid South Africa, should be kicked out of FIFA. There must be no tolerance for racism and occupation in the world's most beloved sport.

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The whole case is so strange, highly political, thats for sure.

Palestinians would probably fail, so many corrupt western states supporting israel these days.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 29, 2015 7:21:59 AM | 1

Team America World Police in action. I've been stressing to people, ala #1, this is not a sports story, it's a political story. I'm eager to see how the expel-Israel vote goes. They're long deserving of some censure, a comeuppance for their decades long crime spree and pretty of violence and human rights abuses, no other country more so. At least besides Murka, anyway. Nowhere near what's needed, but it's a start. A chink in their holocaust-coated armor, might pave the way for more action, not just against Israel but FOR Palestinians. That said, I wouldn't doubt if the US is, how did Obama put it, "twist some folks arms" to pressure them against voting for expulsion. I can't wait to see the NYT response to that one.

Posted by: Colinjames | May 29, 2015 7:45:58 AM | 2

Actually, FIFA did give $100,000.00 to Clinton's Foundation.

Posted by: bart | May 29, 2015 8:02:06 AM | 3

How to determine which is primary, and which is secondary, target?

Taking the 2018 World Cup from Russia is a convenient but secondary target.

FIFA 'scandal' = US attempts to impose sports sanctions against Russia

Posted by: erichwwk | May 29, 2015 8:09:39 AM | 4

Re #1 abd #2, the biggest issue here IS the political aspect, ie the use by DOJ of authority granted under "anti-terrorist" legislation, to pursue hegemony objectives, entirely unrelated to "terrorism", to entrench its right of global cop, in an issue that comes NOWHERE close to other issues of Justice more clearly within the DOJ resonsibilities.

Posted by: erichwwk | May 29, 2015 8:28:54 AM | 5

he FIFA-linked arrests on the eve of the re-election of the organization’s chief are an obvious attempt to thwart Sepp Blatter’s re-appointment, Vladimir Putin said, answering journalists’ questions. He added it’s another example of US meddling abroad.
http://rt.com/news/262669-putin-interview-fifa-arrests/

Posted by: ALAN | May 29, 2015 9:04:34 AM | 7

The Qatar vote was highly suspicious. Even though Qatar is the USA's best friend, I hope a serious probe would have it cancelled

Posted by: virgile | May 29, 2015 9:10:03 AM | 8

And now a bomb threat to further disturb the voting. I bet I know where it came from.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 29, 2015 9:19:43 AM | 9

They are definitely manufacturing consent at the Graun,with an article about Putin with BS being backed by the majority of posters who I don't recognize,other than the usual Zionist haters of Russia.What a corrupt world these creeps have created.

Posted by: dahoit | May 29, 2015 9:29:16 AM | 10

Sad to report Palestine has been pressured by assholes yet again
Follow that tweet (from the home of neoliberal propaganda) and you'll read
"Palestine FA has withdrawn its bid to have Israel suspended."

Posted by: Debs is dead | May 29, 2015 9:42:32 AM | 11

debs is dead

This is what palestinians always do, they had all the chance and then just blew it.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 29, 2015 10:16:59 AM | 12

Some more details about the Palestinian move......


http://rt.com/news/263229-palestine-drop-israel-fifa/

Posted by: notlurking | May 29, 2015 10:27:28 AM | 13

Why do the Palestinians continually sabotage themselves by withdrawing various claims, petitions, etc at the last minute? This certainly isn't the first time I've seen them withdraw something, seemingly at the moment of their success...

Posted by: WG | May 29, 2015 10:51:10 AM | 14

There is no state more racist, no state that has used that racism to conduct wars that have killed millions than the United States. I suppose the Turks have not been oppressive or murdered Kurds, either. I suppose one can have regimes that brutally treat women and enslave them as well as full FIFA members.

Israel commits terrible crimes and is a colonial-settler state, like South Africa, but they have no monopoly on evil. This campaign to expel Israel from FIFA whitewashes the injustice and murderous crimes of a multitude of states, and in its hypocrisy binds average Israelis only more tightly to Zionist ideology. Good job, b!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 29, 2015 11:22:50 AM | 15

My guess is that the numbers for guaranteeing the motion would get up went after at least 4 directors were gonna be no shows at the exec meeting that was going to consider this - either that or other FIFA reps traded Palestine for their personal safety.

Anyone care to imagine if any FIFA members supporting Israel got arrested by the fbi?

The Palestinians went in thinking they had it in the bag only to discover they could grab some concessions for sure or risk getting nothing in a crap shoot where the odds were against em and getting worse.

Why does Palestine always do this? Because amerika and Israel always nobble the vote leaving the Palestinians to cop yet another lesson on the joys of 'democracy'.

Why did native americans sign treaties with their invaders & occupiers shouldn't they have known that the pieces of paper were just lies and disseminations? Of course but not signing would have gained them sfa - the whitefellas would just grab what they wanted to anyway and the treaties give a modicum of protection.
Of course they also enable the whitefellas to appear better than they are but so what? In the end delegates/ representatives have to take the deal that gives their people the best chance even if it looks bad to outsiders.

Yep it sucks but until there is a radical change in the way the rest of the world deals with the Zionist state Palestinians can only do what they can do.
If the vote had gotten up Europe which has Israel in UEFFA not the ME league where it should be the divisions are geographic for everyone but Israel, would have refused to accept it anyhow. b is right it is likely this entire fbi witch hunt is about pressuring FIFA to back off.

Posted by: Debs is dead | May 29, 2015 11:31:48 AM | 16

Anonymous @12

If Hamas, the elected leaders of the Palestinians, were in charge, you wouldn't see this whimping out. In fact that's probably the main reason Hamas was elected in the first place, that they are not or were not hopelessly corrupt.

Bribery probably is the number one influence on the sleaze that officially runs the West Bank concentration camp. In fact this entire move might have been intended to squeeze the Israelis to add more millions to West Bank Palestinian 'leaders' Swiss bank accounts.

Posted by: fairleft | May 29, 2015 11:34:26 AM | 17

@anonymous "This campaign to expel Israel from FIFA whitewashes the injustice and murderous crimes of a multitude of states, "

Nice example of whataboutism ...
But neither the U.S., nor Turkey is occupying foreign land, violently colonizing it and even formally discriminates against parts of its own population based purely on race. Israel is proud to be "unique". Well, that deserves unique consequences.

Posted by: b | May 29, 2015 11:35:19 AM | 18

What's the likelihood that the Yankees, knowing FIFA has #1.5 Billion, are hoping to impose a financial penalty to "help" them? I doubt that the US has any legal jurisdiction over FIFA's activities. The way the US blackmailed Switzerland into arresting and extraditing the FIFA 'suspects' is reminiscent of Assange's UK/Sweden predicament in too many (abuse of political power) ways to be a coincidence.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 29, 2015 11:43:07 AM | 19

Anon @ 15

"There is no state more racist, no state that has used that racism to conduct wars that have killed millions than the United States."

You have obviously never been to England. The England who has been attacking Arabs and Persians for nearly 1,000 years. There are only 22 countries that England has NOT invaded ...

http://mentalfloss.com/article/13019/there-are-only-22-countries-world-british-haven%E2%80%99t-invaded

Posted by: Alberto | May 29, 2015 11:44:29 AM | 20

b @ #18,

Thank you. That post by anonymous @ #15 richly deserved a rap on the snout for precisely the reasons you specified.

Posted by: JerseyJeffersonian | May 29, 2015 11:49:20 AM | 21

thanks debs is dead and b.. palestinian leadership always seem able to snatch defeat from the jaws of possible victory..

ot - i like watching the us dept of state daily briefing..double standards bound!

Posted by: james | May 29, 2015 11:54:41 AM | 22

Do you all know who Judah P. Benjamin was and who he represented?

"Judah Philip Benjamin QC (August 11, 1811 – May 6, 1884) was a lawyer and politician who was a United States Senator from Louisiana, a Cabinet officer of the Confederate States and, after his escape to the United Kingdom at the end of the American Civil War, an English barrister. Benjamin was the first person professing the Jewish faith to be elected to the United States Senate, and the first Jew to hold a cabinet position in North America."

" Benjamin attended Yale, and after departing without graduating, moved to New Orleans, Louisiana, where he read law and passed the bar."

"When Jefferson Davis fled the Confederate capital of Richmond in early 1865, Benjamin went with him, but left the presidential party and was successful in escaping whereas Davis was captured by Union troops. Benjamin made his way to Britain, and became a barrister, again rising to the top of his profession before retiring in 1883. He died in Paris the following year."

Posted by: Alberto | May 29, 2015 12:01:45 PM | 23

Alberto @23: So what?

Posted by: fairleft | May 29, 2015 12:15:32 PM | 24

I desired to know what ideology steers MoonOfAlabama. Now I know. Thank you and goodbye.

Posted by: Alberto | May 29, 2015 12:45:12 PM | 25

what?

Posted by: james | May 29, 2015 12:55:27 PM | 26

Blatter will be re-elected in 2nd round of voting which requires a simple majority. First round Blatter 133 votes Jordanian prince Ali bin al-Hussein 73 votes. FIFA stays corrupt coming years ...

Posted by: Oui | May 29, 2015 1:09:13 PM | 27

Kudos b for another slap on the face of the criminally corrupt Gray Bitch. For those wondering why the Palestinians don't stand their ground before the Zionist entity, just have to look at the Palestinian ruling elite, corrupt to the core from Abbas down, ready to the take the crumbs offered by the Zionists in exchange for the few rights left to the Palestinians. Thanks to the Bantustan-like division of Palestine imposed by the Zionazis, Ramallah lives in a different reality from, let's say Hebron, Jericho, or any other town in the occupied West Bank. Abbas manages the corruption and the Zionist entity takes full advantage of it, while the Palestinian people suffer the humiliation of the oppressors, and the impotence and frustration before the betrayal of their own so-called leaders. Abbas and the PLO also manage the occupation for Israel, ensuring the Palestinians don't get "out of bounds" in their resistance efforts. Sadly, true liberation of Palestine will come from outside, not from their current "leadership."

Posted by: Lone Wolf | May 29, 2015 1:15:41 PM | 28

Ali has sensibly conceded. No 2nd vote required.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 29, 2015 1:21:36 PM | 29

Alberto @23: So what?

Posted by: fairleft | May 29, 2015 12:15:32 PM | 24

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I desired to know what ideology steers MoonOfAlabama. Now I know. Thank you and goodbye.

Posted by: Alberto | May 29, 2015 12:45:12 PM | 25

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what?

Posted by: james | May 29, 2015 12:55:27 PM | 26

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Whatever happened to Alberto? What ideology steers MoA? Anyone's guess as good as mine, since Alberto just bid us farewell, for good it seems.

Posted by: Lone Wolf | May 29, 2015 1:23:13 PM | 30

FIFA stays corrupt coming years ...
Posted by: Oui | May 29, 2015 1:09:13 PM | 27

Yeah... same as every other ex-sport corrupted by monetisation/ "professionalism".

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 29, 2015 1:32:31 PM | 31

debs is dead

No one stopped palestinians but themselves as they always do.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 29, 2015 1:38:07 PM | 32

b @18 - "neither the U.S., nor Turkey is occupying foreign land, violently colonizing it and even formally discriminates against parts of its own population based purely on race"

Wow! Turkey doesn't occupy Kurdistan? The U.S. doesn't occupy Puerto Rico? Or Afghanistan, for that matter? And as for not formally discriminating based on race, that is a joke. I suggest one go to Ferguson, MI, or Baltimore, MD, or a plethora of U.S. Cities and go door to door getting black residents to sign a statement recognizing that "fact". How many blacks die from U.S. Cop violence, or framed in prison because of racist drug laws?

Oh, and discriminating against parts of ones own population based on religion or gender or nationality is LESS important than discrimination by race? This kind of politics is good for feel-good moments but does not advance anyone's struggle.

I'll say it again, by making Israel a special case, you feed the garrison mentality of Israelis that the whole world is anti-Semitic, reinforcing attachment to their Zionist racist rulers!

Instead of sideshows meant to feed moralistic arguments against one's pet evil, you should be arguing for the unity of Israelis and Palestinians against their common oppressors, the capitalist leaders of their interpenetrated nations. For a secular Palestine under workers rule as part of a socialist confederation of the Near East! In the meantime, solidarity and defense of Palestinians under Zionist attack and injustice! Free all Palestinian political prisoners!

Alberto @20 - Fair point!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 29, 2015 1:54:13 PM | 33

the palestinians do not hurt themselves. the unelected but recoginized by israel and u.s. leaders do hurt the palestinians.

Posted by: bondo | May 29, 2015 1:56:13 PM | 34

"The alternative is to relinquish control over football to some totally unaccountable, likely U.S. controlled conglomerate."

That alternative was actually broached by a guest on NPR yesterday. He suggested that control of the World Cup should be turned over to a media organization- such as NBC or the Murdoch Group. Seriously - the Murdoch Group.

I expect this will become a talking point for the chattering class i.e. it will be the theme of Tom Friedman's next column.

Posted by: jayc | May 29, 2015 2:05:16 PM | 35

"There is no better way to run FIFA than the way it is run today." (!!!)

It does not happen often but in this case MoA is COMPLETELY WRONG.

While it is likely that the corruption charges against FIFA functionaries (and their timing) are also motivated by political intrigue, (i.e. against Russia or the Palestinians) they are indeed justified.

FIFA is not only extremely corrupt, it has been connected to organized crime for decades and is run like the personal fiefdom of Sepp Blatter and his cronies. (He should be charged of course, not some underlings).

The case against FIFA is excellently documented (as far as possible, given the opacity of their dealings) in this book:

Fifa-Mafia: Die schmutzigen Geschäfte mit dem Weltfußball by Thomas Kistner
(The dirty dealings of world-football)

The book is written in German but I believe that the author of MoA knows this language quite well ... so please read it and correct your misguided (ignorant) view on the subject ...

(The word "Mafia" used in the title is very appropriate and has not led to any slander charges against the author ...the book has been largely ignored by the German press since their role is to glorify football (and sports competition in general)as a silly emotional distraction for the masses (panem et circenses still works) ..)

Posted by: Helena | May 29, 2015 2:18:35 PM | 36

Lone Wolf @ 30

one more thing ...

It's all fake ...

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/05/28/legendary-journalist-private-fraudulent-everywhere/

adios

Posted by: Alberto | May 29, 2015 2:18:46 PM | 37

@Anonymous@3

I'll say it again, by making Israel a special case, you feed the garrison mentality of Israelis that the whole world is anti-Semitic, reinforcing attachment to their Zionist racist rulers!

What a bunch of crooked BS! Israelis don't need b or anyone else for that matter to feed their racism, which is inherent to their believing they are fucking "chosen." Neither they need anyone to feed their neurosis, a derivative from their being the "chosen" MoFos, which forced them to circle the wagons and become outsiders in any society. By your, ehem, "logic," South Africa will still be ruled by whites, since US/Eurostan used to make exactly the same arguments you're so wrongly espousing. Israel, like it was South Africa, is a unique case, a shame to our humanity, a festering wound in the soul of the planet. You should be ashamed of pretending to "attack" Israel with the same arguments used to "attack" South Africa during apartheid.


Posted by: Lone Wolf | May 29, 2015 2:39:24 PM | 38

CORRECTION

My former post,

@Anonymous@33

instead of

@Anonymous@3

Posted by: Lone Wolf | May 29, 2015 2:42:07 PM | 39

FIFA is not only extremely corrupt, it has been connected to organized crime for decades ...

O rly? This just in: pot calls kettle black and dog bites man--film at 11.

Posted by: Some Guy | May 29, 2015 3:01:56 PM | 40

the palest got exactly what they deserved....the right to play soccer.
the isr go exactly what they deserved ....the right to play soccer

Posted by: mcohen | May 29, 2015 3:23:38 PM | 41

I seriously cannot understand why the USA would give a flying f**k about soccer one way or the other.

Posted by: ralphieboy | May 29, 2015 3:24:11 PM | 42

@42 Landing the 2118 World Cup would have been a major coup.

Posted by: dh | May 29, 2015 3:26:18 PM | 43

@42 It's a chance to force local governments to bid on games and corrupt contracts. With the moratorium on our regular sports stadiums and disdain of the Olympics, we needed an international event to excite localities into public private partnerships where billions could be stolen.

Posted by: NotTimothyGeithner | May 29, 2015 3:38:34 PM | 44

The USA has enough sports scandals without adding soccer to the list...

Posted by: ralphieboy | May 29, 2015 3:39:54 PM | 45

@44 Very lucrative indeed. There are many in the US who would like to be more involved in international soccer. Soccer mums and Hispanics in particular. The potential TV viewing audience is in the millions. Tourism, advertising and media rights would be massive.

Posted by: dh | May 29, 2015 3:41:36 PM | 46

@45 Scandals are part and parcel of professional sport. It's corrupt from top to bottom. Doesn't stop people watching.

Posted by: dh | May 29, 2015 3:44:02 PM | 47

@48 Looks like you answered your own question @42.

Posted by: dh | May 29, 2015 4:00:56 PM | 49

@mcohen@41

the palest got exactly what they deserved....the right to play soccer.
the isr go exactly what they deserved ....the right to play soccer

As per FIFA rules, the Zionazi entity has no right to be part of FIFA.

As per basic morals, the Zionazi entity has no right to exist.

Posted by: Lone Wolf | May 29, 2015 4:07:43 PM | 50

Anonymous @33

For an American, Israel is not a matter of "see, Israel is more or less just as evil and no worse than x, y, z governments, so why yah picking on us?" No, my problem is that the US, my government, subsidizes Israel probably at 10s of billions of dollars a year if you consider how we do its military/strategic bidding in the Middle East. For example, making Iran a pariah is an Israeli policy that hurts the US very much in the Great Game for control of the oil/gas of the greater Middle East. Our support for Israel also generates massive oppression and death throughout the Middle East. Hell, we're supporting ISIS and Al Qaeda right now, and generalized religious hate wars and terror against Shiites in part because that fits Israel's (and Saudi Arabia's) perceived strategic interests.

Not that I am avoiding the truth that Israel is an apartheid state that we can get rid of as the Boycott movement grows. And the fact that ending an apartheid Israel is a _realistic_ possibility is part of why good people around the world should support the effort to make that so. Not all righteous campaigns have sufficient mass and recognition, but the Boycott Israel one does.

Posted by: fairleft | May 29, 2015 4:37:54 PM | 51

To fairleft @51 - one doesn't have to be the most diligent historian in the world to know that all the big powers in Europe and the U.S., and incl. Russia and Japan, cynically used support of Islamic movements before there was ever an Israel. Today, the U.S. also spends billions propping up the horrifically totalitarian regime in Egypt, a regime that persecuted Palestinians, and helps isolate Gaza as a concentration camp state (which is Israeli policy), but I don't see too much wailing over that.

Also, making Iran a pariah state is also the policy of Saudi Arabia, a country which refuses to allow Palestinians who live there to ever have citizenship.

It is world imperialism, primarily the U.S. and the UK who set the agenda for the world since the fall of the USSR. The Zionist garrison state is aggressive in its own sphere, though with its own nuclear arsenal threatens even more. But the Zionists have nothing on the U.S. How many bases around the world do the Israelis have? how many the U.S.?

And b, does not the dropping of the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki speak to the racism of the U.S. state? What about the millions they killed in other Asian wars in Southeast Asia and Korea? Or the approx. 1 million the U.S. slaughtered in Iraq? Should the U.S. be banned from FIFA? Will banning of Israel make FIFA morally pure enough for you to down a pint and cheer when the next World Cup comes along?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 29, 2015 5:04:37 PM | 52

The NYT voting math is in all political areas, at all times - US empire 1, rest of the world 0. Thats why those propagandists wilfully distort/ complain against democratic voting when it works against the evil empire.
If only the NYT could "democratically" count the number of US military bases or amount of military hardware when deciding such votes, thinks the Empire times.

Since Sepp Blatter the corruto-fuckwit won the vote last night, that means one of the objectives of the US in-justice department was a failure.
I guess at least he's not as corrupt as the US puppet alternative in a pricne of Jordan, who I'm sure would have hated the concept of democratic voting even more since he lost that vote.

The US empire:
- didn't get their puppet into FIFA's top job. But corruption still reigns.

- the Israeli gencidal-ists were seemly spared the expulsion vote....for only now I hope. So success there for the bad guys.

- one example of a PR gain for the empire was, in my experience of the 10 or so I talked to here in Canberra Australia, is that around the building industry and tradesmen where I work as a builder/carpenter, almost elusively, all the fellow European background soccer fans that are a big part of the building industry here, were fully thankful and supportive of the US corruption action against FIFA. Even though as sports fans, FIFA corruption is in the back of their minds, when ever it comes up, it a bit of an embarrassment since the corruption has been going on for so long. And when a bigger power is seemingly seen to be doing something about it, the US in-justice department has gotten a lot of praise and thanks.
That has been a huge boon for the empires PR. I thinking my experience would be similar in a lot of places around a lot of the globe.

That the charges agist FIFA officials were made just before the FIFA vote's, was a ready to use discrediting plan that the in-justice department set up to either; force the delay of the Israeli ban vote, or heap on the pressure to reverse the ban vote if it played out that way. A ready to state argument by the US that such a corrupt organisation like FIFA, is totally discredited when taking action like suspending a member like the Israeli ( terrorist) state.

Posted by: tom | May 29, 2015 6:36:18 PM | 53

4

Operation FIFA

1. Bury DIA revelations of US IL complicity in creating, aiding and abetting ISIL, through last summer's #JohnMcCainArmed&FundedISIL leaks, with cell photos of him meeting with ANandTheCaliph.

1a Have dual-citizen Israeli John Stewart and Robert Seal on National Pretoria Radio mock FIFA, then engage in Occupy Iraq propaganda

1b Have DoD announce leak of live anthrax spores to remind any leakers, Israel-Out voters or reluctant Congress critters US IL rules Levant.

2. After burying DIA 'follow the money' expose and wrapping US IL in the flag of 'no corruption here', hit Hastert to remind reluctant Congress critters if the anthrax don't get you, the FBI will, an Israeli subcontractor to AT&The has been monitoring Congress cell and private net for a decade, and plying them with sex and bribery agents.

3. Maybe not prevent Russia 2018, but use that furor to extend sanctions against Russia, which benefits Israeli black-market operations in RU.

The goal is for Israel to control the Levant, to bury the Palestinian State, and expand black-market operations with Russia.

As little Joey Pollard screeded today on B'naiBart, BLUE STATE BLUES: FIFA STANDS FOR ‘F— ISRAEL, F— AMERICA’

Sure it does, Joey, sure it does. ISRAEL stands for F- AMERICA.

DIA EXPOSE BURIED - MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

Posted by: Chipnik | May 29, 2015 7:41:40 PM | 54

52

Israel is G-d's Chosen. They wouldn't hurt a fly. Besides, G-d
said, 'Sons of Khazar shall one day OWN all of the FIFA nations'.
Now how would that look, if we evicted G-d's most beloved Reich?
And don't forget Atilla the Hun. Let's get Hungary out of FIFA!!

Posted by: Chipnik | May 29, 2015 8:07:46 PM | 55

@Alberto@37

Lone Wolf @ 30

one more thing ...

It's all fake ...

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/05/28/legendary-journalist-private-fraudulent-everywhere/

adios

Well, Alberto, I still don't get it. Your privilege to have a different perspective, I am open to hear about it, just in case you read this post.

Posted by: Lone Wolf | May 29, 2015 8:19:12 PM | 56

@Chipnik@54

DIA EXPOSE BURIED - MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

Good point, Chipnik. Even though the DIA revelations did not make it to the MSM, they were going around and were picked up by Russian, Iranian, et al on and offline media. FIFA brouhaha killed it for good, just another sound bite. Gone.

Posted by: Lone Wolf | May 29, 2015 8:27:12 PM | 57

Much simpler explanation. We in the DelVal have what we call "pay to play." You grease the skids with a traditional bribe, and you get on the board the gravy train (seriously, plumbing inspectors in Phila. offered that defense for taking money from contractors for "expedited" processing a few years back). You go along, you get along.

It's an attempt by Uncle Sam to signal, that, sure it's boring, but there's money to be made in soccer! And toss out the foreigners ('cept as fans, of course), in with the good ol' boys. If American companies are going to sponsor it, we gotta keep those bribe proceeds in American pockets.

"Hey, wade a minit, I can pay dem guys too," local operators are saying. "And then get on board the Blatter Express?" What's not to like?

Even now our Gov. Christie is sucking up to Malcolm Glazer of ManUnited, I'll bet, hoping make him his personal friend, just like Cowboys owner Jerry Jones. They apparently bonded over Jones' bid for concessions at a state-owned sports facility. Look for him at the owners box at Old Trafford!

We are all shocked, shocked, I tell you, to hear of corruption in Big Money sports.

Posted by: rufus magister | May 29, 2015 8:52:40 PM | 58

Events have quickly debunked b's conspiracy scenarios so now some people are moving on to more ghostly connections to another revelation that turned out to be nothing more than a raw intelligence report.

At least Putin can withdraw his troops from the Ukraine border because it won't be necessary to invade Switzerland to save the FIFA ruler for life Sepp Blather. Now the FIFA team can get down to the business of bribing the Swiss officials to end their investigation and a good old whitewash will end this circus.

Posted by: Wayoutwest | May 29, 2015 9:50:11 PM | 59

@59- speaking of blather, what events are you referring to? Did the vote to expel Israel take place? Are you suggesting that Putin was setting the stage for a full on invasion of Ukraine as a FIFA intervention? Once again you get a red card for BS.

Posted by: Nana2007 | May 29, 2015 10:18:01 PM | 60

I don't think the FBI will spend much more time and resources on it. There may be a few fines to pay the lawyers. Sepp retains his position. Qatar and Russia keep the hosting venues. Israel is temporarily off the hook.

Posted by: dh | May 29, 2015 10:20:25 PM | 61

That Chuck Blazer is a character eh? A real bon vivant. He may not be quite so welcome at parties anymore.

Posted by: dh | May 29, 2015 10:38:15 PM | 62

#59

the investigations threat was enough to warn all pro palests in fifa that any move against israel will result in jail time for bribery and corruption.this scenario is going to be repeated across all institutions.

but cleaning up organizations in the name of resolving the i/p conflict might be a good thing.

Posted by: mcohen | May 29, 2015 11:11:19 PM | 63

@63- but cleaning up organizations in the name of resolving the i/p conflict might be a good thing.

- really, how is that? Maybe it will trickle down to no longer incinerating children innocently playing soccer on the beach? Welli'm all for that and I look forward to the repetition.

Posted by: Nana2007 | May 29, 2015 11:22:55 PM | 64

I almost feel sorry for anonymous#33/3/52 - viewing the weird and outrageous shit he has just posted gives the rest of us insight into the unnatural contortions an old school Zionist pseudo-socialist has to go through to keep his/her own head straight, let alone convincing others who catch the emanations of disingenuous bullshit.

So instead of logic we get whataboutery from anonymous. The fifa thing was about football in Palestine the simple facts are the apartheid state of israel deliberately sets out to make the Palestinian football competition impossible by a) using delaying and search and seizure tactics on Palestinian football players who have to travel to away games.
And b) Israel really cracks down on any attempts by the Palestinian teams to play other non-Palestinian teams in the international leagues. Not because of 'terrorism' or whatever other bullshit the Zionists spout to justify their genocide, but because Israel is determined to obliterate Palestine and Palestinians - an important step in making Palestine appear invisible to the outside world. If people don't here the name Palestine maybe they will forget about it. That is the thinking of these murdering pricks.

The 'Anonymous' response is to ignore the anti-football antics of the zionists because anything else would be an admission that the ersatz israel state is an artificial construction & therefore is ineligible for membership of UEFA or FIFA.

Instead anon dribbles clouds of 'whatabout Hiroshima", "amerika is evil" etc all true, but completely irrelevant to the issue of israel acting against football and therefore being ineligible to play the sport at an international level.

I know I will live long enough to see that awful racist construction which just like the Nazi Germany, began as a cheap cardboard cut-out of socialism, ground into the dust of history. There will be a one state solution - a state called Palestine.

Posted by: Debs is dead | May 30, 2015 12:01:32 AM | 65

Anonymous @52

You can't seriously think Saudi Arabia can act (in any major move) independently of the US? Do you think they massively cut the price of their oil because they thought that was a good idea for their interests? When Saudi Arabia acts, that it the US acting. If you agree, then we can have a rational discussion on who the main actors are in the Middle East.

The horrifically oppressive government of Egypt was overthrown largely with Saudi Arabia influence and money. Saudi Arabia does US bidding, which aligns with what Israel wants. Israel would prefer poverty, chaos and corruption and an unpopular regime in Egypt over good governance and economic development. Saudi Arabia is opposed to a democratic Middle East. We should be primarily opposed to US/Saudi Arabia/Israel imperialism in the Middle East, not to its symptoms, i.e. the weak, corrupt regimes that have fallen to those imperialisms. Cutting the snake off at its head would be nice.

Posted by: fairleft | May 30, 2015 12:17:03 AM | 66

All the US wants is some piece from the big corruption cake...

Posted by: guy | May 30, 2015 12:18:06 AM | 67

Really lame. 92% of Americans don't even five a flying F about soccer. But in terms of Economy, that still more than can possibly care in, say, France or Germany: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soccer_in_the_United_States

The fact is the US is throwing its market power around while at the same time destroying it. We used to export Rock n Roll and for a damn good reason. Now were trying to import soccer. Forget it.

Posted by: guest77 | May 30, 2015 12:30:43 AM | 68

some great commentary from many here.. thank you.. nana, debs is dead, fairleft, dh, lonewolf and others.. for some reason my posts aren't going thru here.. maybe this one will make it..

Posted by: james | May 30, 2015 2:40:40 AM | 69

@Debs is dead #65

Excellent, spot on, glad someone understand the inner workings of these psychopaths.
You voiced how I feel perfectly, and what I believe to be an accurate analysis.

Posted by: Stefan | May 30, 2015 8:52:06 AM | 70

Personally, I think the Palestinians have played this very well, and once the Israelis offered those "concessions" regarding the main issue of freedom of movement for Palestinian footballers then Rajoub really had to take the offer.

To do otherwise ran the risk of a backlash from within FIFA that might have left him standing there with.... nothing. Nothing at all.

That Rajoub not only got him main demand met but also appears to have put the "settler soccer teams" on the agenda is icing on the cake, because any investigative committee will have to find in his favour.

But, hey, let's be real here: the Israeli Football federation has just offered something (freedom of movement) that isn't actually within their authority to guarantee, and that means that those "Israeli concessions" will last about as long as it takes Ya'alon to get out of bed and reach for the phone.

If I'm wrong - if Israel sticks to its word (Hahahahah! Not Going To Happen) - then that's great, and Rajoub has done what he set out to do (which, need I remind you, is to get his players to their games).

But if I'm right and those "concessions" end up being trashed by the IDF then Rajoub now has a mechanism in place whereby he can go back to Blatter with irrefutable proof that Israel must be ejected from FIFA.

But those concessions, no question about it.

And since they were offered then Rajoub would be a fool not to accept them, otherwise he ends up looking like the recalcitrant.

He's done as well as can be expected from a man who has to argue against people who are pointing guns in his direction.

But never forget that point: "principles" aren't bullet-proof.

Posted by: Johnboy | May 30, 2015 9:08:30 AM | 71

guest77 @ 68 -- The US MCM (Mainstream Corporate Media, which, yes, includes NPR) is going heavy on the FIFA scandals. A British commentator on one segment this morning was agog about all those little independent countries having one vote, just like th Big Soccer guys. It was so ridiculous to him that he could barely stop making jokes about it.

Yesterday, all MCMers were aghast that th FIFA voting entities would support someone for president who was actively helping them in building their soccer presence. Why, it was just like bribery!

All seemed to have received the same talking points.

Is it to belittle soccer, at which the US is still somewhat a neophyte? Or, because the US can't control FIFA, it must be brought down?

Meanwhile, the US Senate is trying to reimpose all the unconstitutional internal and foreign spying on people it possibly can get away with...and the coverage of that is mostly about process. It's how the MCM makes most issues seem like something that no one can do anything about.

The people of the US of so ill served by their current media and reporting it's, well, revolting.

Posted by: jawbone | May 30, 2015 10:11:33 AM | 72

#71

you see the light...of course the whole exercise was good pr for soccer as thats the game that counts....the whole exercise was well managed which is not unusual considering the money and corporate power involved.the non european dissenters were quickly put in there place.....and in a way points to the ongoing role europe needs to play in managing the i/p conflict which can be traced to european decision making in the last 150 years.
somehow i think that this particular fifa congress and the decisions taken there will have important consequences for events in the middle east and possibly world wide

Posted by: mcohen | May 30, 2015 10:11:53 AM | 73

@72 Not one pundit from the West has asked why small countries such as Germany have the same vote as Brazil which I imagine is the most populous soccer crazed country.

Posted by: NotTimothyGeithner | May 30, 2015 10:24:44 AM | 74

@james@69

James, you're not the only one having problems posting, sometimes I try multiple times with the same post, and I end up posting twice. My guess is it has to do with b's security or my security, or a clash between them. Good luck!

Posted by: Lone Wolf | May 30, 2015 10:48:27 AM | 76

@73 What a laugh.

Israel has been restricting the movement of Palestinian footballers for decades.
The Palestinians have finally had enough, and went to FIFA to get Israel suspended.

Israel offered to end the restrictions on the movement of those footballers rather than see that motion put to a vote.

And.... the Palestinians accepted the offer, as they should.

That's all. Nothing more.

"of course the whole exercise was good pr for soccer as thats the game that counts"
Irrelevant. The Palestinians got what they were demanding, so they withdrew the motion.

"....the whole exercise was well managed which is not unusual considering the money and corporate power involved"
Irrelevant. The Palestinians got what they were demanding, so they withdrew the motion.

"the non european dissenters were quickly put in there place"
Irrelevant. The Palestinians got what they were demanding, so they withdrew the motion.

"and in a way points to the ongoing role europe needs to play in managing the i/p conflict which can be traced to european decision making in the last 150 years."
Irrelevant. The Palestinians got what they were demanding, so they withdrew the motion.

Dude, the Palestinians came to this meeting demanding that Israel's restriction on the movement of Palestinian footballers was grounds for Israel's suspension from FIFA.

Israel rolled over by agreeing to end those restrictions, at which point the Palestinians (rightly, IMO) took the offer and withdrew its motion.


What's so difficult to comprehend about that?
Why do you need to read any more into that?

Posted by: Johnboy | May 30, 2015 11:17:29 AM | 77

A pity Loretta Lynch didn't have this same level of tenacity and public shaming gusto for domestic, American corruption.

Big old belly flop on her coming out party

Posted by: Anunnaki | May 30, 2015 11:31:01 AM | 78

Way to go Obama. It will be 40 years before America gets to host another World Cup

Posted by: Anunnaki | May 30, 2015 11:31:46 AM | 79

@79 Yep. US scores an own goal.

Posted by: dh | May 30, 2015 11:40:13 AM | 80

NTG at 74 -- If we asked that about FIFA, we'd have to ask the same about the US Senate.

Posted by: rufus magister | May 30, 2015 11:49:52 AM | 81

The Real News
FIFA Head Reelected Despite Unprecedented Corruption Scandal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9T4j7bP4FE&feature=em-share_video_user

Posted by: okie farmer | May 30, 2015 1:51:00 PM | 82

Greg Dyke clears everything up. The small countries that got bribed into voting for Blatter would have got bigger bribes if they'd voted for Prince Ali....

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/32945844

Posted by: dh | May 30, 2015 2:22:01 PM | 83

Sepp Blatter - newly re-elected and still insanely corrupt president of FIFA - has confirmed that the upcoming tournaments in Russia and Qatar are not going to change.
That is the second objective of the US Empire defeated.

Posted by: tom | May 30, 2015 3:47:08 PM | 84

@84 I wouldn't be so confident, tom. The long game is still being played, and there is no doubt that the Americans are playing to win.

There is no way they can unseat Blatter under the current constitution of FIFA - too many minnows owe their vote to him, and each one has exactly the same vote as the powerhouse countries like Germany, or France, or Brazil.

So if the USA wants to take control of FIFA then it first has to break the organization into pieces and then put it all back together again with a new constitution that ensures that a US-backed toady wins the top job.

So expect a FIFA "colour revolution", starting with a no-confidence vote from EUAFA and followed up by a mass exodus by the Europeans, with each and every one of 'em taking their marching orders from Washington.

That should break FIFA in two, and from there the USA should be able to orchestrate putting everything back together again, only as an organization FIFA won't look at all like it looks now.

It'll look like a sock puppet, with Uncle Sam's hand all warm and cozy inside.

Posted by: Johnboy | May 30, 2015 7:43:31 PM | 85

@85 Greg Dyke would seem to be a key figure in the attack. But he doesn't want to make the supreme sacrifice and withdraw the England team (in spite of what he said before Blatter got re-elected). He wants Europe's backing for a major boycott.

Posted by: dh | May 30, 2015 7:56:49 PM | 86

funny thing is most of you missed this but Indonesia was suspended at this congress but most of you have chosen to pick on israel for not allowing suicide bombers freedom of movement

Posted by: mcohen | May 30, 2015 8:25:51 PM | 87

#87
Dear lord, were the Palestinians suiciding themselves during football matches?
Dirty bastards!

Posted by: citizen X | May 30, 2015 8:51:03 PM | 88

Shoot 'em in the feet.....that'll stop them.

Posted by: dh | May 30, 2015 8:54:39 PM | 89

#88

indeed they were blowing the ball up...very sneaky.some even had explosives in the boots like that guy the shoe bomber...you might remember him,he played for real maboom.anyway indonesia asked the pals to create a drama so no one would notice a muslim country being suspended

Posted by: mcohen | May 31, 2015 6:05:15 AM | 90

Richard Silverstein has an article about how important the FIFA vote on banning Israel was to the Israeli government.

http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article9239663.ece/alternates/w620/v2-schumacher.jpg

"Israeli media have begun to chronicle the massive propaganda campaign they launched to topple the Palestinian initiative."

...

"For the past month, officials of Israeli national soccer established a war room, dividing up the world into regions with each staff member assigned to a major region, getting to know the soccer officials and present the Israeli pitch." [So unsurprisingly Israel has put a lot of effort into blocking the vote]

...

"One of the most provocative items in the Israeli report is that among the IEFA officials present in Zurich for the deliberations was its chief financial officer, Dodi Gil. One wonders why a soccer federation preparing for a vote needs its accountant. Think of it this way: accountants handle money. They receive it. They disburse it." [Silverstein suggests that maybe people were bribed by Israel to vote favorably]

...

"Note as well that Israel’s largest financial institution, Bank HaPoalim’s Swiss branch is accused in the U.S. indictment of funneling nearly $15-million (roughly 10% of all the bribery money involved in the entire FIFA corruption scandal) to those FIFA officials on the take." [This part of the bribery events definitely wont make MSM attention].

...

"Just in case you had the mistaken impression that Israel would tread delicately in the aftermath of its victory so that the Palestinians don’t lose face: Israeli minister, Yisrael Katz, posted this on Facebook: - Rajoub failed in his mission of throwing Israel out of FIFA. Now’s the time to imprison him in the Muqata [like Israel did to Arafat] and let him play Stanga [hackysack] with his pals." [Israel government delights in the outcome, the result of extended efforts on their part]


Posted by: Yonatan | May 31, 2015 7:05:11 AM | 91

Arrgh - wrong link posted.

http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2015/05/30/did-israel-buy-its-way-out-of-fifa-suspension/

Posted by: Yonatan | May 31, 2015 7:06:08 AM | 92

Maths. Just a further little sign of United State cultural imperialism.

Posted by: Petra | May 31, 2015 8:20:32 AM | 93

52:How many bases around the world do the Israelis have?Well they own the banks and media in almost every Western nation,own the American govt. how many more bases do they need?But of course,too much aint enough for them.

Posted by: dahoit | May 31, 2015 11:34:51 AM | 94

There is Blatter's former VP Jack Warner to explain the conspiracy to the world - His Own Defense - using the Onion headline.

Posted by: Oui | Jun 1, 2015 12:52:04 PM | 95

@87, "You go to war with the army you have, not the one you want." --D RUMSFELD, freedom fighter.

If Palestine had a squadron of F-16s and a couple hundred Merkavas, armored cars, some long-range artillery for good measure, and billions in lines of credit with the Home of the Depraved, you would certainly see a decrease in suicides.

Posted by: ruralito | Jun 1, 2015 1:12:08 PM | 96

Noose tightening around Blatter's neck …

Unnamed FIFA official in $10m bribe momey to Jack Warner is Blatter's lieutenant Jerome Valcke who had denied any and all culpability of the group's executive just days ago. Even a recently deceased person was blamed … Valcke has high-tailed back to Zurich from the Women's World Cup in Canada to express he has no authority for such a large sum of money in the transfer. There is a single person within FIFA who does have the authority, his private office with security and vault is off-limits to anyone else than himself. Just a matter of days or weeks for the head to roll.

Posted by: Oui | Jun 2, 2015 3:29:16 AM | 97

Bye, bye Sepp Blatter ... he's a goner!

Posted by: Oui | Jun 2, 2015 12:53:36 PM | 98

Either Blatter was part of the corruption or he was a pussy, why didnt he go last week?

Posted by: Anonymous | Jun 2, 2015 12:59:39 PM | 99

The noose was tightening, just for now let's assume he's part of the corruption and will need 4 months to clean out his office and vault holding all secrets (evidence).

Posted by: Oui | Jun 2, 2015 1:06:33 PM | 100

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