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February 24, 2015

U.S. Pushes For Escalation, Arms Kiev By Laundering Weapons Through Abu Dhabi

The U.S. is circumventing its own proclaimed policy of not delivering weapons to Ukraine and is thereby, despite urgent misgivings from its European allies, increasing the chance of a wider catastrophic war in Europe.

The Ukrainian coup president Poroshenko went to an international arms exhibition in Dubai. There he met the U.S. chief military weapon salesman.

ABU DHABI – Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko is expected to meet with U.S. defense companies Tuesday during a major arms exhibition here even though the American government has not cleared the firms to sell Kiev lethal weapons.

Frank Kendall, the Pentagon’s acquisition executive is scheduled to meet with a Ukrainian delegation Monday evening, however Poroshenko is not expected to be there. Kendall, in an interview, said he will be bringing a message of support from the United States.

“I expect the conversation will be about their needs,” Kendall told Defense One a few hours before the meeting. “We’re limited at this point in time in terms of what we’re able to provide them, but where we can be supportive, we want to be.”

Poroshenko, urged on by his neocon U.S. sponsors, wants total war with Russia. Porosheko's deputy foreign minister, currently on a visit in Canada, relayed the message:

Ukraine's deputy foreign minister says he is preparing for "full-scale war" against Russia and wants Canada to help by supplying lethal weapons and the training to use them.

Vadym Prystaiko, who until last fall was Ukraine's ambassador to Canada, says the world must not be afraid of joining Ukraine in the fight against a nuclear power.

In the mind of these folks waging a "full-scale war" against a nuclear superpower like Russia is nothing to be afraid of. These are truly lunatics.

Russia says that U.S. weapons delivered to Ukraine would create real trouble. They mean it. To hint how Russia would counter such a move it just offered a spiced up S-300 missile defense system to Iran:

Sergei Chemezov, chief executive of the Russian defense corporation Rostec, said Tehran is considering its offer to sell an Antey-2500 anti-ballistic air defense system,

The Antey-2500 is a mobile surface-to-air missile system that offers enhanced combat capabilities, including the destruction of aircraft and ballistic missiles at a range of about 1,500 miles, according to its manufacturer, Almaz-Antey.

The system was developed from a less advanced version -- the 1980s-generation S-300V system -- which has a 125-mile range. A 2007 contract to supply the S-300 system to Iran was canceled in 2010, after the U.S. and Israel lobbied against it, ...

Such a system in Iran would, in case of a conflict, endanger every U.S. airplane in the Middle East.

But that threat did not deter the U.S. As the U.S. arms dealer in Abu Dhabi said: "where we can be supportive, we want to be". The U.S. will now disguise its arms-to-Kiev program by laundering it through its sponsored Middle East dictatorships:

Christopher Miller ‏@ChristopherJM 
Poroshenko, UAE agree on "delivery of certain types of armaments and military hardware to #Ukraine."

The United Arab Emirates is not known as arms producer. But it buys lots of U.S. weapons. It will now forward those to Ukraine while the U.S. will claim that it does not arm Ukraine. Who do they think will believe them?

This is again a dangerous escalation of the conflict in Ukraine by U.S. machinations. It comes at the same moment that Russia, France, Germany and Ukraine meet in Paris to push for faster implementation of the Minsk 2 accord for a ceasefire and for a political solution of the civil war in Ukraine:

On Monday spokesman for the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry Yevhen Perebyinis said that during their Paris meeting, the foursome of foreign ministers will focus on the implementation of the Minsk agreements and withdrawal of heavy artillery in Donbas.

The Ukrainian government has said that it will not withdraw its artillery as long as there are still skirmishes around a few flashpoints along the ceasefire line. In Shirokyne east of Mariupol the government aligned neo-nazi battalion Azov continues to attack the federalists. The Ukrainian propaganda claims that the federalists plan an immediate attack on Mariupol. That is nonsense and the federalist have denied any plans for further fighting. Unlike the Ukrainian government the federalist started to pull back their artillery and will continue to do so.

The Ukrainian government is breaking the Minsk 2 agreement by not pulling back its heavy artillery from the ceasefire line. The U.S. is arming the Ukrainian army and will soon train its volunteer neo-nazi "national guard" forces.

The major European powers, Germany, France and Russia, try to tame the conflict down. The U.S. and its poodles in Kiev continue to poor oil into the fire. If the Europeans do not succeed in pushing back against Washington the Ukraine with burn and Europe with it.

In Further Escalation U.S. Delivery Of Weapons To Kiev Will Be Laundered Through Abu Dhabi

Posted by b on February 24, 2015 at 10:20 AM | Permalink



Thanks for a very good summary of the whole guacamole.

Another reason not to withdraw the artillery, being also used by Kerry to crank up the "let's-give-weapons-to-Ukraine" line, is the mopping of the Debaltsevo pocket, which Ukraine & Co. decided to ignore from the beginning, to use it now as a justification not to fulfill Minsk 2.0. The false-flag attack in Kharkov was a prelude of the up and coming internal repression, which will drown in torture, suffering and blood the little resistance there is to the continuation of the war and the IV Mobilization.

Whoever said that foreign policy is only an extension of domestic policy?

Posted by: Lone Wolf | Feb 24, 2015 11:20:39 AM | 1

Can someone describe Poroshenko's personal angle in brief? Perhaps he is delusional as I see a number of poor outcomes for him as an individual.

Posted by: IhaveLittleToAdd | Feb 24, 2015 11:21:46 AM | 2

Posted by: Lone Wolf | Feb 24, 2015 11:20:39 AM | 1

I commented about a week ago that the ceasefire might hold if both sides in Ukraine pulled back their artillery - unless Obama acted to sabotage it. Now he has done so - not withstanding the withdrawal of federalist ordinance - by offering to rearm the gun-crazy fascists of the Ukrainian gov't, with not even a fig leaf of "plausible deniability" to cover his assets.

Not a peep from Merkel - her only disagreements with the Nobel Peace Prize winner about Ukraine are purely tactical.

As for Poroshenko, he doubtless has a helicopter gassed and ready, and a nice little hidey hole in Switzerland all prepared, and conveniently close to his billions. That's why he sent his family out of the country, because when he has to get out - he has to get out fast.

Posted by: gersen | Feb 24, 2015 12:24:12 PM | 3

@2 IhaveLittleToAdd

Like most criminal organizations, the US tries to take very good care of its agents that do what they're told and to be very brutal to those who don't. For examples of the former, check out all the South American criminals living in Miami as well as the perhaps more relevant example of Mikheil Saakashvili, who is strutting around Ukraine rather than being on trial in Georgia. For examples of the latter, check out Noriega, Saddam, or Bin Ladin.

While I suspect Porky is wondering how he got himself into this mess, I don't think he has much choice but to stick it out to the end. At least his family will be well taken care of.

Posted by: shargash | Feb 24, 2015 12:29:18 PM | 4

So how are Parashka & co. going to pay for this nifty new hardware, pay for fuel, or for that matter, pay their own soldiers?

Posted by: sid_finster | Feb 24, 2015 12:53:46 PM | 5


So how are Parashka & co. going to pay for this nifty new hardware, pay for fuel, or for that matter, pay their own soldiers?

Ukraine Presents List of Desired Weapons to US

"The negotiations (with the American side) are continuing non-stop. In part, they are underway at the level of the Ukrainian defense minister. We have dispatched to the United States a specified list of what we need. The first tranche of $350 million extended for three years and an possible extra billion dollars are being discussed. The Americans are not replying with an emphatic No. They say the White House has not made a decision yet, but while it is being considered let us keep working. There are armored vehicles and firearms on the list," the Ukrainian news agency UNIAN quotes Biryukov as saying...

The other source is the IMF money, used to cover massive money diversions from many government sectors into military needs. As I read recently, Ukinazis stop briefly for a peace agreement when they need the next IMF tranche, and continue with the warmongering as soon as they have received it.

Posted by: Lone Wolf | Feb 24, 2015 1:32:35 PM | 6

The Ukrainian government is breaking the Minsk 2 agreement by not pulling back its heavy artillery from the ceasefire line.

Of course they're not going to pull back their heavy artillery. They have to leave it for the Russian terrorists when, in a couple of weeks to a month or two, they turn tail and run leaving everything behind as they've been doing for the past six months. Poroshenko is Putin's man and has been charged with, amongst other things, supplying the Russian terrorists with the weapons Ukrainian troops leave behind.

Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Feb 24, 2015 1:43:11 PM | 7


Ukie gas to be shut off in three days?

Posted by: Alberto | Feb 24, 2015 1:58:29 PM | 8

from comment 8 RT piece cited ...

Russia will completely cut Ukraine off gas supplies in two days if Kiev fails to pay for deliveries, which will create transit risks for Europe, Gazprom has said.

Ukraine has not paid for March deliveries and is extracting all it can from the current paid supply, seriously risking an early termination of the advance settlement and a supply cutoff, Gazprom's CEO Alexey Miller told journalists. The prepaid gas volumes now stand at 219 million cubic meters.

"It takes about two days to get payment from Naftogaz deposited to a Gazprom account. That's why a delivery to Ukraine of 114 million cubic meters will lead to a complete termination of Russian gas supplies as early as in two days, which creates serious risks for the transit to Europe,” Miller said.

Posted by: Alberto | Feb 24, 2015 2:01:46 PM | 9

@IHaveLittleToAdd no. 2

@shargash no. 4

I have read recently in an article on another blog that in 2012 Poroshenko was being politically groomed for his future role by Germany's Konrad-Adenauer-Stiftung institute, a think-tank wing of Merkel's Christian Democrats, as was Vitali Klitschko the present mayor of Kiev in 2011.

Basically, Germany was to spearhead the EU's expansion to Ukraine, while the US role was to facilitate Ukraine's inclusion in Nato.

Posted by: sleepy | Feb 24, 2015 2:08:47 PM | 10

This from a Veteran's Today piece ...

"Mikheil Saakashvili , of all people, has become a “presidential advisor” to Ukraine’s new incumbent, Petro Poroshenko.

The Georgian government is understandably rather upset that Ukraine, a country it sees as a friend, has appointed him to such a key post.

This is not because they disagree with his politics, but because Saakashvili is wanted on a multitude of criminal charges.

Georgia’s ex-PM Bidzina Ivanishvili, the man parachuted in to cleanse the country of Saakashvili and his gang, has recently described Poroshenko’s decision to appoint a wanted criminal as an advisor as “regrettable.”

source -

Posted by: Alberto | Feb 24, 2015 2:11:15 PM | 11

The obvious problem here is the most fanatic elements in Kiev not only believe a "total war" with Russia is inevitable, they are uniquely positioned to make this war happen. It appears they have convinced themselves that NATO will intervene once the really big guns start firing. Huffington Post gave Tymoshenko a column, and a recent posting reveals a dark hateful person who is deeply delusional as far as events in her country go. Likely her ramblings reflect thought patterns of others in power in Kiev. Utter insanity that these people are feted in our countries, let alone handed weaponry. There's a growing consensus amongst critics that, on the mendacity scale, this Ukraine crisis is actually worse than "Saddam's WMD". May it hasten the downfall of the mendacious.

Posted by: jayc | Feb 24, 2015 2:56:10 PM | 12

b - thanks for your article..

the usa has been pushing for escalation of war in ukraine for some time! any lack of opacity on their part while welcome, is not ''new'' news.. most folks following this closely already 'know' this..

as for poroshenkos role - like a typical oligarch, he will sell out to the highest bidder which in this case is the usa/cia.. it is shocking to see how a leader could have so little concern for his own country or people, but i think it is fair to say he is from the land of money that identifies with no geographic location specifically.. it also explains why his family is somewhere else.. i wonder how long before his replacement? i am surprised he's still in power.

Posted by: james | Feb 24, 2015 3:08:34 PM | 13


"Ukraine will go to war in late March"--Zakharchenko

...“We are beginning the withdrawal of heavy equipment, while Ukraine is bringing it up from Kharkov and Dnepropetrovsk. Seems to be there will be a provocation. Ukraine will go to war in late March or Early April. Ukraine needs war,” Zakharchenko said during a Monday briefing.

J.Hawk's Comment: ...Because, to my mind, there seems to be a pattern of Ukrainian conflict activity: it is most likely to escalate when it just received foreign financial aid, and is the most likely to seek peace just as it needs another tranche...

Posted by: Lone Wolf | Feb 24, 2015 3:19:08 PM | 14

E. Ukraine artillery withdrawal focus of FMs meeting – as Poroshenko buys UAE weapons

Posted by: ALAN | Feb 24, 2015 3:48:39 PM | 15

The offer to Iran for the Antei-2500, aka S-300VM, or SA-23 Gladiator in NATO nomenclature was reported as far back as June 2013.

Posted by: Nick Olson | Feb 24, 2015 4:17:22 PM | 16

At least Putin cuts out the middleman and delivers his weapons directly.

Posted by: ralphieboy | Feb 24, 2015 5:17:11 PM | 17

USA army invasion in Estonia!!! Next stop Ukraine!!!

Posted by: anonymous | Feb 24, 2015 5:23:37 PM | 18

Is this a sick joke being played on the world, or are these Anglo-Saxons (US, England, Canada, Australia) really bucking for a scab on the end of their nose? If I wasn't so sure they would quickly resort to nukes, I'd love to see the Russians knock the tar out of these chickenshits. (Banderistas as well). The mighty Empire....creating chaos across the globe.Lecturing heathens on human rights. Held at bay by people in sandals living in mud huts.They are going to arrest the Ruskies from their new imperialist designs. I have to be dreaming... this can't possibly be real.

Posted by: Kraken | Feb 24, 2015 6:59:59 PM | 19

@17 Hold the exclamation marks. That may just be the Estonian Victory Day parade.

Posted by: dh | Feb 24, 2015 7:01:18 PM | 20

@11 Alberto

How long did Saakashvili's war with Russia last? 48 hours? 72 hours? Good advisor to have.

Posted by: Crest | Feb 24, 2015 8:34:15 PM | 21

$350m is not going to buy you many US weapons, especially as Parashka's contract is for $2.4 billion, less delivery, middlemen, financing, etc..

The IMF is another source, but that money hasn't arrived yet, and there are a lot of conditions attached. That's why the Fund is the lender of last resort.

Since arms are invariably sold subject to strict limits on resales, I suspect that either:
1. The sale is for domestic Ukrainian consumption, i.e Parashka's attempt to look like he is doing something;
2.The US is secretly financing the sale, directly or indirectly. Such financing may be in the form of "we promise to aid your ISIS friends, or look the other way, if you 'sell' Ukraine these weapons and take a lenient attitude regarding repayment."

Posted by: sid_finster | Feb 24, 2015 8:42:45 PM | 22


This is not because they disagree with his politics, but because Saakashvili is wanted on a multitude of criminal charges.

"Criminal charges?" Bingo! He fits the credentials for the job as Porky's "adviser." In reality, Saakashvili, a CIA crooked rat, is the CIA man in Ukraine, overseeing the entire anti-Russian effort, weapons needs, false-flag operations, internal repression, Ukinazi death squads, intel gathering and coordination, etc. Georgia's complaint to Ukraine was more of a wink to Saakashvili's newly found job, a show for domestic consumption, otherwise, Interpol would be looking for him, wouldn't it?

Posted by: Lone Wolf | Feb 24, 2015 9:20:09 PM | 23

Re: Isaakashvili sudden involvement with the "Ukrainian government": Kiev Snipers: Mystery Solved

It was reported several weeks ago in Interpress News that four of the snipers in Kiev were in fact Georgian nationals. The source for this story was Georgian General Tristan Tsitelashvili (Titelashvili), who later confirmed this in an interview with Rossiya TV.

Tsitelashvili claimed that at least four of the snipers shooting at people in Maidan Square were under the command of former Georgian president Mikheil Saakashvili, who is doing his best to destabilize his own country, and others if necessary, to find a way back into power.

Posted by: ProsperousPeace | Feb 24, 2015 9:37:53 PM | 24

How long did Saakashvili's war with Russia last? 48 hours? 72 hours? Good advisor to have.

Posted by: Crest | Feb 24, 2015 8:34:15 PM | 20

According to Wikipedia, the war started on Aug 8, minutes after midnight, and it definitely lasted at least 4 days. On fifth day, Georgians left a key city, Gori, and Russians entered on sixth day. On the other hand, the war was lost within 24 hours. The only chance of victory for heavily outnumbered Georgia was to surprise the Russians and Ossetians and take control of the only tunnel between South Ossetia and the Russian Federation (North Ossetia), which they did not. Thus Russian could retake all territory gained by Georgia on day one within two days, rather than a week. Georgia concentrated almost all forces against Ossetian, leaving the second border with good roads, with Abkhasia, practically undefended. Thus the only way to score a victory lasting more than one day was to risk loosing big majority of Georgian military in a cauldron -- Georgian forces in Ossetian mountain valleys would have Russian forces behind them, as only police checkpoints were delaying Russian advance from Abkhasia, (posting detours, issuing tickets for parking violations, violation of weight limits on bridges for tanks etc.???).

As a history buff, I have hard time finding a strategic plan of equal stupidity. To give the creator of that plan a key advising position seems suicidal. An anti-Russian Georgian owns a large (??? impressive web site) newspaper in Kiev.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Feb 24, 2015 11:28:51 PM | 25

This may be the world's first coup in which "neo-Nazi" insurgents are commanded by Jews (I know this, because this blog counted all of the "Jews" running the whole political apparatus from their redoubt in Kiev).

You would need 1 million Rosa Luxembourgs to unravel the contradictions.

Remain vigilant, comrades.

Posted by: slothrop | Feb 24, 2015 11:43:25 PM | 26

Russian Spring


That the combatants had already backed off 5 artillery battalions and 1 artillery battery was announced on a briefing today by Eduard Basurin, deputy of Commander in Chief of Donetsk Republic Defence.

“The combatants of Donetsk Republic, rigorously adhering to the Minsk agreements, today from 9 a.m., started withdrawing heavy weaponry of the line of contact. The Donetsk Republic forces, according to the time line specified by the Joint Center of Verification and Coordination (JCVC)for fire cessation, had withdrawn 5 artillery battalions and 1 special artillery battery”, he noted.

According to him the withdrawal was monitored by OSCE and JCVC and attributed to areas of Krasniy Pakhar`, Tel`manovo, Gorlovka, Donetsk and Mikhaylovka.

All together, a hundred of cannons D-30, caliber 122 mm, were removed.

“Withdrawal of additional 5 artillery battalions and 1 artillery battery is planned for tomorrow”, informed the representative of the military department.

By Ukrainian side, as Basurin noted a day before, necessary preparations to withdraw the hardware were not performed.

Posted by: Fete | Feb 25, 2015 12:02:20 AM | 27

Foreign Affairs poll of experts about whether the US should arm Ukraine:

4 strongly agree
5 agree
0 are neutral [they're experts, after all]
8 disagree
10 strongly disagree

You can read the whole article for free if you register. You get two free articles per month. FA should be of interest to MoA readers.

Posted by: Demian | Feb 25, 2015 3:02:07 AM | 28

Hm, the Antey-2500 Air Defense system does NOT have a range of ~1,500 miles ... as reported by Fox News, which apparently copied a report from Press TV ?!

It cannot affect US aircarft operations 'throughout' the Middle East, however, it could most certainly provide complete coverage of Iran and its borders, as well as the entire Persian Gulf, Gulf of Oman, etc ... which is more than enough to change the current US calculations re a conflict with Iran, as well as providing a defence against Israeli Ballisitc Missiles and the possibility of such missile threat against Iran from the GCC countries in the future ...

Yes, it is a derivative upgrade of the S-300VM fork (1 of 3 forks of the original 1980's S-300), primarily manufactured by Russian government owned Almaz corporation, designed and manufactured for Export. Designed in the 2000's, first produced and available for export/sale from 2013.

It is an extremely capable, 'First Class', Air Defense/Denial system capable of defeating tactical, theater and medium range ballistic missiles (and intercepting individual ballistic missile warheads), aeroballistic and cruise missiles, fixed-wing aircraft, as well as loitering ECM platforms and precision-guided munitions, at a range of up to 200 km. Each complex can track up to 24 targets simultaneously and target/engage up to six targets simultaneously.

IMHO, by offering this to Iran, Russia is providing an instant and dramatic step up to first world Theatre Air Defense/Denial capability compared to the previous system S-300PMU previously on offer, thence withdrawn due to US pressure when Russia and the Empire were still, supposedly, 'partners' ....

IMHO, if integrated into the existing extensive Iranian short and medium range layered Air Defense/Denial systems would place Iran amongst the most well equipped nations in the world re Air and Missile (Ballistic & Cruise) Defense/Denial.

Posted by: Outraged | Feb 25, 2015 3:21:29 AM | 29

Further to above see below link for detailed data and analysis ...

Air Power Australia Link

The S-300V/S-300VM/VMK/Antey-2500 is the world's only truly mobile Anti Ballistic Missile system, and later variants are claimed to be capable of intercepting 4.5 km/sec reentry speed targets. The large size of the Grill Pan phased array and TELAR command link and illuminator antennas is evident. The system provides the capability to engage very low RCS (Radar Cross Section, ie 'Stealth') aircraft at ranges in excess of 100 nautical miles.

Rapidly deployable, high survivable, and highly lethal, these weapons are especially difficult to counter and require significant capabilities to robustly defeat. The US Air Force currently envisages the F-22A Raptor as the primary weapon used to defeat these capable systems.

It is important to note that no F/A-18 variant, nor the Joint Strike Fighter, were designed to penetrate the coverage of the S-300V/VM systems. The survivability of these aircraft will not be significantly better than that of legacy combat aircraft.

Posted by: Outraged | Feb 25, 2015 3:37:05 AM | 30

Yes, UAE sells weapons to Porky, but: Russia to Sign Naval Gun Mount Delivery Deal With UAE Soon - Trade Minister

Posted by: SitoAurora | Feb 25, 2015 3:38:21 AM | 31


Its membership has included senior politicians, more than a dozen Secretaries of State, CIA directors, bankers, lawyers, professors, and senior media figures.

So you condemn Cohen for being 'elitist' but you think one should read the FA?^

Posted by: Anonymous | Feb 25, 2015 3:44:46 AM | 32

A little comic relief, courtesy of the august Rada of Solons in Kiev. "There is no such thing as Russian language"--Poroshenko Block Deputy. Aren't his folks supposedly the more-or-less sane ones?

Posted by: rufus magister | Feb 25, 2015 7:37:11 AM | 33

Is the Antey 2500 a capable air defense system against cruise missiles? I understood this S-300 variant to be geared towards the intermediate ballistic missile threat and not specifically designed for the cruise missile type flight path. What type of missile does Israel have in its Dolphin subs?

Posted by: Sun Tzu | Feb 25, 2015 7:46:59 AM | 34


In 2010, WSJ had a small article that Boeing retrofitting all of Israel's fighter-bmobers with nuclear launch rails. Way to go, Boeing!! They said it was NPT-approved, because the cash came in gunny sacks and duffel bags, instead of an IMF certified cashier's check.

Once Syria falls, IMF 'PeaceKeeping™' forces will rush in to 'stabilize' the country, and take over all the military bases, then turn off the radar defense systems, giving Israel a perfectly deniable Dark Alley to launch their nuclear attacks without warning, now that Biden also sold Israel aerial refueling tankers and radar stealth equipment.

It'll be 'go time' in Hebron if US spy satellites see Russian ABMs on the road to Tehran. Putin nee Netanyahu are related familias, Russia will retaliate in theater against US. That will trigger DEFCON, and the AssCracks at the Pentagonal Church of Perpetual Death will get their long-awaited for Rapture.

Posted by: ChipNikh | Feb 25, 2015 8:04:35 AM | 35

This may be the world's first coup in which "neo-Nazi" insurgents are commanded by Jews (I know this, because this blog counted all of the "Jews" running the whole political apparatus from their redoubt in Kiev).

You would need 1 million Rosa Luxembourgs to unravel the contradictions.

Remain vigilant, comrades.

Posted by: slothrop | Feb 24, 2015 11:43:25 PM | 25

It's like arguing with Fundamentalist Christians. When confronted with their myriad contradictions, they resort to their "God can do anything" card to get them out of their pickled corner.

In this case, their retort is that Jews are, as just one of so many things, Nazis too. They will say, and have said, that Jews are whatever they have to be to control the world whether it be good Nazis, good Capitalists, good Islamists, good Orientalists or good Communists — the list goes on and on because Jews, in their grotesque and insane opinion, are shapeshifting reptilians capable of all and any deceit.

My answer to that is that if the Jews are all they say the Jews are, then what does it say about them and the rest of us humans? It says we're not all we're cracked up to be and not worthy of any position or status than has already been allotted to us meaning that if the Jews are all that, you're not, so shut up and accept your fate as a powerless idiot.

But they don't shut up and accept their fate and instead defy the only logical conclusion of their perverse and prejudiced ideology.

Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Feb 25, 2015 8:54:55 AM | 36

Posted by: ChipNikh | Feb 25, 2015 8:04:35 AM | 33

Oops, you hit 2 raw nerves there.
1. The Rapture (Millenialism).
A year or so ago I stumbled on PDF called Strategic Implications of American Millenialism, penned by Maj Brian L Stuckert of the US Army School of Advanced Military Studies, dated May 22, 2008. The link below is to a critique of Stuckert's paper and there is a link to the PDF at the end of the blurb preceding the critique.

It's impossible for me to take any religion seriously and I found Stuckert's paper very heavy going but he delves right into Millenialism and Dispensational pre-Millenialism (???) and the Rapture connection.

2. Israel's Nukes.
There aren't any. And the absence of evidence and the evidence of absence are as compelling as each other. They're hogwash and just as imaginary as all the rest of "Israel's" bullshit, no matter what Boeing or any other 'well-informed source' says.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 25, 2015 9:06:28 AM | 37

@ Sun Tzu #32

It is an extremely capable, 'First Class', Air Defense/Denial system capable of defeating tactical, theater and medium range ballistic missiles (and intercepting individual ballistic missile warheads), aeroballistic and cruise missiles, fixed-wing aircraft, as well as loitering ECM (and AWACS or refueling) platforms and precision-guided munitions, at a range of up to 200 km. Each complex can track up to 24 targets simultaneously and target/engage up to six targets simultaneously.

The Anstey-2500 (re 2013 production) is fully multi-role capable and LETHAL against ALL of the above targets ... it is Not only or purely an anti-aircraft or ABM system ... and should not be compared to a comparatively outdated 'generic' S-300 system, from which it is derived ... each complex contains multiple means and methods of targeting/tracking/engagement/guidance/countermeasures/secure and alternate comms to perform missions against ALL the above targets on an all-terrain platform that can deploy from mobile in ~5 mins, detect, target and engage multiple targets within seconds and Immediately redeploy/relocate and thence, rinse/repeat. Why so flexible ? apart from the above each complex contains sets of two(2) different types of multi-role, multi-stage missiles, 'ready-to-launch' (effectively instantly), which are largely sealed, maintenance free for a period of up to ~10 years.

These types of platforms are meant to provide total air, missile(cruise or otherwise) and Ballistic missile defence at the Theatre level for a Russian Army Corps, for example. This is the State-of-the-Art short of the new S-400 and upcoming S-500 platforms. In short, if the target(s) is/are in the air from any altitude above ground to ~30,000M and within a range of 16-250Km, at any speed from Nil to 4.5Km/sec, stealth or not, cruise or ballistic or not, this system will should it down in short order with a single shot kill probability of 98% claimed against ballistic targets. Missiles can be configured 'live' to target/hunt EW/ECM platforms, settable to active terminal guidance within 10 seconds or even as low as 3 seconds to target interception to overcome such measures or evasion attempts.

If interested, though, please check out the provided link, and note data is not fully up to date for the 2013 production iteration of Anstey-2500 ... data is dated circa ~2012 ...

Posted by: Outraged | Feb 25, 2015 9:51:53 AM | 38

The UK is sending "Advisors" to Ukraine.

The Azov brigade has set up shop in Mariopol. The shells that had hit Mariopol and were supposedly from the rebels were more likely from the Ukrainians. The shells fell short of their target.

Posted by: Willy2 | Feb 25, 2015 10:16:15 AM | 39

@ Outraged Thank you! It seems that there is a bit of a pro-quo since Iran just informed the EU that it can not replace Russian Gas supply to Europe. Iran acknowledges that yes it has gargantuan gas reserves just not ready for shipment out of Iran. In my opinion, the whole rationale for the detente between US and Iran re Iran's nuclear development hinges on the future role that Iran can play to ween the EU from its Gas supply stranglehold from Russia. For example: The Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan pipeline via Georgia and Turkey requires gas from Iran to make it worthwhile. The other gas pipeline in play is from Qatar via a New Kurdistan republic carved out from Syria, Iran and Turkey. This is why Turkey has been looking at buying S-300 knockoffs from China that will not be integrated with NATO and why Turkey is looking east in general in addition to supporting ISIS against the Kurds.

Posted by: Sun Tzu | Feb 25, 2015 10:28:05 AM | 40

@35 chipnikh - you crack me up!

@36 cold - don't pick on fundamentalist christians. they are the one's helping to keep all those retards in power in washington that you revere so much!@ ps - i see you found your soul mate in frothrot..

Posted by: james | Feb 25, 2015 12:29:09 PM | 41

US-NATO Military Convoy of Tanks and Armored Vehicles at Russia’s Doorstep, Rolling Along the Estonia-Russia Border

Posted by: crone | Feb 25, 2015 5:34:55 PM | 42

@ Sun Tzu #40

You're welcome. IIRC Turkey has recently purchased the Chinese HQ-9 system which is another enhanced derivative of a S-300 variant, that incorporates US Patriot System technology, obtained by China from Israel via an 'illegal' transfer ... ah, with allies like Israel ... ?

The HQ-9 is able to be incorporated and integrated into the NATO Air defense system, yet NATO refuses to permit it to be by Turkey ... the Empire does not want to encourage purchase of Non US military arms, by NATO vassals, um sorry 'members, afterall ...

Peace. Salaam. Shalom.

Posted by: Outraged | Feb 25, 2015 7:03:02 PM | 43


Here's a video/commentary of a provocative march in Estonia. Coupled with an unexpected result in Lithuania. Washed down by a half-day as fly-on-the-wall in Kharkov.

Certainly the US/NATO are trying ro buck up the NAZIs in Ukraine, and to encourage similar takeovers by the NAZIs in the Baltics. But it looks like the people are not pre-disposed to go along ... and the actual results obtained by the US/NATO supported NAZIs in Ukraine are surely beginning to sink in.

Posted by: jfl | Feb 25, 2015 7:38:48 PM | 44

@jfl #44:

encourage similar takeovers by the NAZIs in the Baltics

As you yourself have observed, I am a White pRussian, so I do not exactly have a high regard for the Balts, but even I don't think there is much danger of nazi takeovers in the Baltic statelets. I think the Ukrainian nazi phenomenon is sui generis, and equivalents to it do not exist in other former Soviet republics or in east European countries. As that Lithuanian poll you linked to suggests, the level of resentment against Russia in the Baltic statelets and in Poland does not approach that in the Ukraine. Also, none of those countries have invented their own alternative imaginary histories, as Ukraine nationalists have, who now say that Russian is the northern dialect of Ukrainian.

Posted by: Demian | Feb 25, 2015 8:04:52 PM | 45

@44 Kudos to those brave lads for getting so near to the bear without close air support.

Posted by: dh | Feb 25, 2015 8:29:02 PM | 46

ot but related.. the guardian of all rags, actually had something in favour of russia written by an ex nato person.. shocking, so i am sharing it. i picked it up from ks earlier.. Link here. once on that, you can also read a good review of the book under discussion..

Posted by: james | Feb 25, 2015 8:44:03 PM | 47


I think there are crypto-nazis everywhere, waiting to come out of the woodwork ... as they did in all of Eastern Europe when the German NAZIs marched in with the wind at their backs, as it then seemed. And then they all retreated to Germany with the NAZIs, with the wind at their backs, as you have previously pointed out. They worked for the US/CIA ... and their descendants still do.

But the NAZIs were always a minority, and they always are. They have to have the wind at their backs in order to steamroll the potential opposition ... more to the point, to buy them off, to literally capitalize on the minority nazi pre-disposition always ready to be exploited in any population.

Thats what's happened today in the USA. The 'good' folks are all making money on war abroad and totalitarianism at home. And so they keep their mouths shut. And the machine rolls on ...

But probably not in Eastern Europe any longer. Ukraine is nothing if not a strong negative example of where following the nazi pied-piper ultimately leads. And it's all happened in one year this time, instead of six plus like last time. And on much more of a laboratory scale, the better to educate the undergraduates. Knock on wood, anyway.

Now its time to knock down the EU, roll up the sleeves, and get back to work rebuilding Europe, and not just in Ukraine. From Lisbon to Vladivostok.

And we in the Americas can get busy ourselves, from Barrow to Tierra del Fuego.

Posted by: jfl | Feb 25, 2015 8:51:41 PM | 48

@jfl #48:

I don't know if it's true that "there are crypto-nazis everywhere, waiting to come out of the woodwork". What I do know is that tas Eric Zuesse has explained, the Ukrainians developed their own version of racist fascism, in which the Jews are replaced as the scapegoat, primary object of hatred, and target of genocide by Russians. And Zuesse is right about that. An article was published in the London Review of Books according to which even Ukrainian liberals believe that the people of Donbass should be exterminated. I'm pretty sure that no other European people has come up with such a racist fascism/nazism. Latvian, Lithuanianian, or Polish liberals do not openly and publicly advocate the extermination of Russians; Ukrainian liberals do. (Also, even Latvia abstained from the vote on the Russian UN resolution condemning the advocacy of fascism. Only Ukraine, the US, and Canada voted against it.)

The latest post at Fort Russ discusses the possibility of a Kharkov People's Republic. An interesting statistic from that piece: before the coup, Donetsk, Lugansk, and Kharkov made up 43% of the GDP of the former Ukraine.

Posted by: Demian | Feb 25, 2015 10:31:05 PM | 49


A battle between tanks in hamlet Shirokovo on south of Donetsk Republic was reported.

“Currently a skirmish between tanks is taking place; our tanks against “Azov’s” (irregulars, an Ukrainian territorial battalion). Participating from each side are there-four tanks”, informed combatants’ headquarters of city Novoazovsk (Mariupol` region).

The author of military campaign map offered his view of ways the situation may develop. He, particularly, noted that the Ukrainian military leadership continues accumulating personnel and armor near the line of contact. More artillery arrived in Artemovsk region yesterday. A “tank fist” is being assembled in area of Volnovakha. Toward Bakhmutka, columns are being pulled from Lisichansk and Severodonetsk.

Posted by: Fete | Feb 26, 2015 12:04:18 AM | 50

Hm, we haven't heard from Ulster for quite a while now. My guess is that he's been shot by Right Sector for draft dodging.

Posted by: Demian | Feb 26, 2015 3:34:52 AM | 51

By George Galloway. a great discussion about the Russian_Western struggle; its history and recent development.;

Posted by: brian | Feb 26, 2015 4:59:48 AM | 52

@52 Thanks for the Galloway show. His al Mayadeen show has always been difficult for me to find - and it is considerably better, I feel, than both Sputnik and Comment (which are fine shows themselves).

Posted by: guest77 | Feb 26, 2015 1:47:24 PM | 53

UAE deny sales to Ukraine, on top of that, on an arms show in UAE Russian tank turrets were displayed, and these turrets are part of a joint project of Russia and UAE to produce remotely controlled tanks. Given such military cooperation, I doubt that they would openly sell arms to Ukrainians. OTOH, Dubai had a reputation as a place where you can buy or sell literally anything (short of nuclear weapons, I presume), so covert channels through UAE are possible. But either it is a covert channel blabbed by Ukrainians or just another case of a minor discrepancy between official Ukrainian information and reality (attention to detail is not in their blood).

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Mar 3, 2015 7:17:58 PM | 54

Baltic nationalists are more anti-Russian than Polish nationalists. Poles have more problems than just Russians, as Lithuanians and Ukrainians killed a bunch of Poles during WWII. For example, it is unthinkable in Poland to enter a discussion if "Banderowcy" are fascists, the fact that they are Banderowcy is sufficiently bad. Main parties are anti-Russian, but with different modulations, e.g. a major party that hates Russia most has most vocal opponents of Ukrainian nationalists.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Mar 3, 2015 7:23:57 PM | 55

@Piotr Berman #55:

Thanks for the explanation.

Why did Lithuanians kill Poles during WW II? I never heard of that.

Posted by: Demian | Mar 3, 2015 8:37:16 PM | 56

@56 "After the battle of Stalingrad in ’43 the Germans felt a heightened need to get more allies, and so the Romanian Iron Guard, the Hungarian Arrow Cross, the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists and others with military formations in place to assist came together and formed the united front called the Committee of Subjugated Nations and again worked on behalf of of the German military. In 1946, they renamed it the Anti-Bolshevik Bloc of Nations, ABN. Stetsko was the leader of that until he died in 1986.

I mention this in part because the OUN tries to say, well, during the war we fought the Germans and the communists. The fact of the matter is that they were the leadership of this whole multinational alliance on behalf of the German the last two years of the war and in the war thereafter. All the postwar leaders of the unrepentant Nazi allies were all under the leadership of Yaroslav Stetsko [second in command to Stephan Bandera]." Paul H. Rosenberg, "Seven Decades of Nazi Collaboration"

Multinational force must have included Lithuanians, who, I believe had their own Waffen division as well. Poles not part of this coalition since unlike the others, they were fighting the against, not with, the Nazis.

Posted by: Harold | Mar 3, 2015 9:58:46 PM | 57

@Harold #57:

And thank you for that very interesting explanation and link.

I've read that the Polish resistance was even less effective than the French resistance, but you don't hear about Polish collaborators, either.

Posted by: Demian | Mar 3, 2015 11:05:33 PM | 58

@Piotr Berman #55:

Main parties are anti-Russian, but with different modulations, e.g. a major party that hates Russia most has most vocal opponents of Ukrainian nationalists.

Polish politicians are disappointed in Ukraine.

Reuters: Ukraine's economy is starting to disintegrate: Polish Deputy PM

"Unfortunately, the elites have disappointed. One year ago it seemed that Ukraine was on course to become a stable, predictable democracy of our sphere of values," Piechocinski said.

Posted by: Demian | Mar 4, 2015 12:49:36 AM | 59

Harold at 57 -- you might find Wikipedia on non-German Waffen-SS formations interesting, which came to comprise 60% of the strength of the organization. Himmler and his minions were quite serious about creating a pan-European elite for the 1000 yr. Reich. You'll note the Scandinavians were the first to sign on, very few Brits, Yanks, or Celts though.

Quirk of history -- some of the Baltic divisions were conscripted, had not been ideologized, so excluded from the post-war prosecutions. And in fact were guards at Nuremburg.

Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 4, 2015 8:43:54 PM | 60

I wonder what the junta is up to with everyone watching re-runs from Moscow TV?

For fans of the class struggle (Go Reds! Beat State!) Ukrainian coal miners block the Lvov-Kovel highway. "The miners have announced a strike of unlimited duration, and not a single coal mine of the Western region is working (part of the miners went to Kiev to strike)." Other miners went out in late Feb. and received conscription notices.

The august Rada of Solons on the Dneipr continues to provide an entertaining floor show. Kyiv Post has few free details. The dustup between "Radical Party leader Oleh Lyashko and former member of his faction, lawmaker Serhiy Melnychuk, who used to head the Aidar Batallion" caused the cancellation of the session. Fort Russ has the video, their account of the dialogue is a little unclear.

I recall seeing somewhere (maybe before KP put it behind the paywall) that on the agenda was lifting parliamentary immunity of judges of Pechersk district court (see here, annoying junta). The fight apparently merely delayed the inevitable.

Here is some late breaking news. Neo-nazis run the Kiev Police Department, and as always, a picture is worth.... As it notes, deputy commander of the "Azov" battalion, Vadim Trojan, became a senior Kiev police official in January.

Finally, ChocoKing seems to be trying to impose some discipline, of a sorts. UAF soldiers disciplined for criticizing Poroshenko

Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 4, 2015 10:33:45 PM | 61

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