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December 28, 2014

N.Y.P.D. Officers Earn Disrespect - Except One Of Them

Officers of the world's seventh biggest army, the New York Police Department, defied their commander in chief, mayor de Blasio, by turning their back to him while he gave a funeral eulogy for one of them. de Blasio had earlier refrained from endorsing the killing of an unarmed black man by some N.Y.P.T. officers. Such racist murder by policemen is a regular occurrence in New York.

One officer though did not follow the sheeple.

Billmon rightly compares the picture above with this one. It was shot, I believe, in 1936 in Hamburg, Germany.

The story did not end well for the man in 1936. How will it end for the black N.Y.P.D. officer?

de Blasio should fire every officer that defied him. That likely would not even increase the number of criminals on New York's streets. They would only no longer wear a uniform.

Posted by b on December 28, 2014 at 08:00 AM | Permalink

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Thank you for finding that picture. I was disgusted when I saw black officers turn they're back on the Mayor. Some of his policies I do not necessarily agree with (supporting Israel for one)but to turn their backs shows a great deal disrespect not only for Mayor DeBalsio but all the residents of NYC. I am sorry but the NYC police must earn the respect of the people. If I do something wrong then I must be held accountable same applies to them. Just because you are a police officer does not mean you are immune. I hold DeBalsio does not buckle from this and maybe he's the one to finally fix this corrupt Nazi fascist union that believe they themselves are above the law. Enough. Below is an article stating even black officers fear fellow white officers when they are out of uniform. Does not surprise. Meet the new KKK. Same as the old with the uniform being a different color.

http://www.politicususa.com/2014/12/27/black-cops-fear-feel-threatened-white-officers.html

Posted by: NewYorker | Dec 28, 2014 8:29:39 AM | 1

"...de Blasio should fire every officer that defied him. That likely would not even increase the number of criminals on New York's streets."

It's been done... and, no, crime didn't rise. It actually went down.

Posted by: Monolycus | Dec 28, 2014 8:45:26 AM | 2

Guh. Linking problems. Talking about Georgia under Pres. Saakashvili.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4849472

Posted by: Monolycus | Dec 28, 2014 8:47:25 AM | 3

I'm getting sick and tired of the perpetrators of the Palestinian Holocaust jumping on any excuse to white-wash their own genocidal predilections by drowning us in a deluge of bathos about their favourite Holocaust.

I used to take the Holocaust very seriously - until it became clear what unmitigated liars and assholes the "survivors" permitted themselves to become. I'd like them to gimme a break; and I'm not the only one...

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Dec 28, 2014 9:12:23 AM | 4

If I didn't lack complete faith in the ability of the American people to see through this mangled and overplayed political stunt this wouldn't be a worry. The protests would march on and gain strength and publicity. But that won't happen. People will buy the hollow story that demanding accountability and non-racist policing is tantamount to shooting hero police officers. (Un)fortunately this will only embolden the police to exert more power and violence, which will continue to be documented. Basically because we live on Mars the tipping point has not been reached, but we can trust that the police will find it, and it will be a grotesque and shamefull state of affairs when we collectively arrive there.

Posted by: IhsveLittleToAdd | Dec 28, 2014 9:44:17 AM | 5

@4,

Me too. I've taken to calling it holocaust porn. And it's everywhere: NPR, BBC, the movies. Enough already. The national airwaves, which the people of the US own, should be used to inform them about present economic conditions (which 99% of them don't understand) and secret agreements being made in Geneva, like the Trade in Services Act (TiSA), which will remove all legal protections for not only Americans but everyone in the developed countries.

We need informed commentary about how the long-term consequences of the sanctions on Iran and Russia is going to hurt the USA. As China becomes the banker of last resort for countries that the US sanctions, it is building the financial infrastructure to become the reserve currency within 15 years.

Posted by: MRW | Dec 28, 2014 9:54:18 AM | 6

Yesterday there were demonstrations in many large cities in which people were wearing shirts and carrying signs, saying "Blue lives count". In my grocery clerks were wearing t-shirts saying "I can't breath".

My takeaway from yesterdays' speeches was is was a strange kind of celebration of the militarizing of police. More, it was celebrating the police exactly like they celebrate the 'heros' in the military.

Posted by: okie farmer | Dec 28, 2014 9:59:05 AM | 7

MRW@6, speaking of:

Don Quijones: How the Trade in Services Agreement Lets Big Brother Go Global
Posted on December 28, 2014 by Yves Smith

By Don Quijones, a freelance writer and translator based in Barcelona, Spain, and editor at Wolf Street, where this article was originally published

Much has been written, at least in the alternative media, about the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP) and the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP), two multilateral trade treaties being negotiated between the representatives of dozens of national governments and armies of corporate lawyers and lobbyists (on which you can read more here, here and here). However, much less is known about the decidedly more secretive Trade in Services Act (TiSA), which involves more countries than either of the other two.

At least until now, that is. Thanks to a leaked document jointly published by the Associated Whistleblowing Press and Filtrala, the potential ramifications of the treaty being hashed out behind hermetically sealed doors in Geneva are finally seeping out into the public arena.

If signed, the treaty would affect all services ranging from electronic transactions and data flow, to veterinary and architecture services. It would almost certainly open the floodgates to the final wave of privatization of public services, including the provision of healthcare, education and water. Meanwhile, already privatized companies would be prevented from a re-transfer to the public sector by a so-called barring “ratchet clause” – even if the privatization failed.
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/12/don-quijones-trade-services-agreement-lets-big-brother-go-global.html

Posted by: okie farmer | Dec 28, 2014 10:03:57 AM | 8

Blasio’s Dilemma

During the campaign: de Blasio’s withering criticism of the Bloomberg administration’s stop-and-frisk policy!

Blasio’s dilemma isn’t unique in a time of transition

De Blasio allies often point out that he is governing at a time of transition in the city, the first new mayor elected since the population shifted to a majority of Hispanics, blacks and Asians. The police department has seen demographic changes as well, although its top union leaders — a set of hard-edged members who have long been quote machines for the city’s voracious media — have basically remained the same. The unions, whose leaders have long criticized city mayors, are currently in a contract dispute with City Hall.


Axelrod, who recently visited with de Blasio in City Hall, said the mayor isn’t clueless - just trying to walk a fine line. “Any mayor has to appreciate the incredible burden on police departments and the courage of men and women who put themselves into potentially dangerous situations each day to keep communities safe,” he said. “By the same token, there’s an obvious breach between the police and communities of color, not just in New York, but most urban areas, that is bad for both police and the folks they’re sworn to serve and protect.”

Federal judge ruled stop-and-frisk tactics of the New York Police Department violated the constitutional rights of minorities

Posted by: Oui | Dec 28, 2014 10:08:12 AM | 9

The media play a large role how the present credibility of mayor de Blasio and the police unions are perceived by the public. I watched CNNi for some live reports and was taken aback for its one-sided reporting in favor of the hardline police unions by repeated showing of the video where most, but not all, NY policemen turned their backs on a passing mayor de Blasio. Speaking of undermining one's authority. The murder of two cops in Brooklyn was a criminal act as is happening daily across the US and elsewhere. Throwing fuel on a burning fire is not the way to act and is quite irresponsible by persons in leadership. Shame on you police union leadership!

Next Issue for New York’s Mayor and Police: A Contract

I picked-up on this theme within hours of the cop murders - Mayor Blasio and Black Community Blamed for Terror Killing NYPD.

Posted by: Oui | Dec 28, 2014 10:09:25 AM | 10

It seems clear that the police and the white majority who backs them do not want to give up the license to kill at any cost.

Posted by: Puppet Master | Dec 28, 2014 12:20:16 PM | 11

The problem is much more entrenched than people realize. Cops everywhere terrorize citizens and their mayors - producing the schizophrenic political campaigns to cut public funding for municipal staff while increasing cop benefits, arms, numbers, you name it. These guys don't even need to go to school! And they threaten to assassinate the mayor where I live.
They are brownshirts, it is the very definition of fascism, and quite a natural result of this breeding ground in the US.
If you actually get to hear what they say in person, you will learn that they feel victimized by Black (& Brown) people who they see as being allowed to get away with things and get more free stuff and opportunities because they are minorities. It sounds nutty, but it is a common viewpoint of uneducated blue-collar people who have fewer options today, and the police gang is their family. The murders of people of color are intentional. One of them (Gelhaus) in California actually wrote about how to justify killing kids with toy guns before he viciously murdered a 13-year-old with a toy gun. The police will continue.

Posted by: anon | Dec 28, 2014 1:00:08 PM | 12

Di Blasio must be very careful. He must proceed quietly and act as if he and the police are on the same page in some instances. He has to change the upper leadership and transfer the old guard that supports this disaffection from the officers. If he pushes too hard the blue line will revolt.
Their actions will and can include turning a blind eye to law infractors.
Actually raising the body count of more people of color, thereby throwing more fuel on the fire.
The cops also committing more of the crimes or helping and aiding in crime that are at a relatively low level now.
The police might actually be hacthing a plot paint DiBlasio as another Dinkins, weak, ineffectual and corrupt.
DiBlasio is in quite a pickle.

Posted by: Fernando | Dec 28, 2014 1:06:14 PM | 13

To #4 and #6: Me three. And frankly I'm tired of hearing jews and their "opinions" 24/7. They're the majority voice of EVERY news outlet, college campus, industry panel, church pulpit. Constantly whining at us. Telling us what to think, do, eat, wear, believe. The talmudics and their take on morality and humanity is fucking hilarious if it were not so desperately sad and evil. Yep. I too have done a 180. From sadness and respect and admiration for "jews" and "holohoax-survivors -- to a total rebuke of everything they touch. Because everything they covet they destroy. Their greed and avarice and mendacity knows no bounds. The holohoax story is just a piece of it. Particularly as they ignore and dismiss and deny the MILLIONS killed by their blood-libel ancestors in the holodomor. More than anything in the world they HATE Christians (particularly Orthodox Christians) and goyim. Their tribal hatreds have made them ugly inside and out.

Here's a little New Years gift. Another well-worn Jewish-fable. Know the story about Jonas Salk? Such a genius. Such a humanitarian. Never bothered to patent his vaccine. His GIFT to mankind. What a mensche! Ever hear of John Enders? Nobel Prize winner for Biology in 1954. Incredible resume. Intelligence and goodness in one humane being. Dr. Enders is the REASON Dr. Salk never patented the "Salk Vaccine".

Deceit is their DNA.

Posted by: giddy | Dec 28, 2014 1:47:08 PM | 14

More info for De Blasio to fire everyone: http://www.villagevoice.com/2010-05-04/news/the-nypd-tapes-inside-bed-stuy-s-81st-precinct/full/

The lauded crime reductions that top brass claim come from stop and frisk and their deployments are the result of gentrification and systematically false statistics, including intimidation of crime victims in order to limit the number of crimes reported. It's absurd and fucking awful.

There was a letter by the Nashville chief of police that showed not every top police official is an authoritarian coward. http://gawker.com/police-chief-respecting-cops-means-respecting-protesto-1675787560

Posted by: Crest | Dec 28, 2014 2:09:57 PM | 15

Cops all over, like other executive powers in the US, have too long been allowed to do their work not bound through the normal checks and balances that were developed to keep them in line.

Cops so often act as judge, jury, and executioner. It is the mirror image, on the city level, that we see on a global with Obama's drone programs, the CIA's efforts around the world, and George W. Bush wrenching the war-making powers away from the US Congress.

Posted by: guest77 | Dec 28, 2014 3:21:37 PM | 16

Hey, B, OT I know, but I don't think you've blogged about this important Ozzie investigative piece re MH17: here.

Posted by: Helena | Dec 28, 2014 3:45:55 PM | 17

Without wishing to elaborate on the details on this blog, there are plenty of Russian Orthodox Christians who do not buy the official holodomor story either.

Posted by: eurasian | Dec 28, 2014 3:53:47 PM | 18

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Dec 28, 2014 9:12:23 AM | 4

hoarseshit

Posted by: callit | Dec 28, 2014 4:42:18 PM | 19

@4

I'm getting sick and tired of the perpetrators of the Palestinian Holocaust

@6

Me too. I've taken to calling it holocaust porn

@14

To #4 and #6: Me three. And frankly I'm tired of hearing jews


the 3 stooges come out to play

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/25/Souptonuts.jpg/250px-Souptonuts.jpg

Posted by: callit | Dec 28, 2014 4:54:14 PM | 20

Get the topic but the photo is not proof, as i see it the fella is on duty, eyes on. In that NYC gangland is and always has been the boys in blue, its historic, nothing new! The whole mechanisim need taken apart, it has been tried, and always fails...

Posted by: kjs | Dec 28, 2014 5:26:36 PM | 21

The US isn't just "the World's police force", the US is "the World's Ferguson police force".

It looks about as much like the world as does the Ferguson PD looks like Ferguson, and acts just about the same.

Posted by: guest77 | Dec 28, 2014 5:45:26 PM | 22

There is good info at times here at MoA on certain issues. There is
also garbage, generally of the liberal/left type, to be found from
time to time.

Concerning De Blasio, but also the media, Prof.MacDonald remarked:
"[...]It’s a strange argument, especially coming from the certifiably left — that Mr. Brinsley acted in a complete vacuum, that his cultural surroundings played no role. It didn’t matter that there were protest marches chanting “What do we want? Dead cops!” (ignored by Al Sharpton). It didn’t matter that all the statements and actions by Obama, Holder, and de Blasio supported the protesters and blamed the police for the “climate of distrust” in Black communities.' and '[..]Obviously, he(Brinsley) is not typical of young Black men because otherwise such shootings would be rife. But the media and the liberal political figures who put all the blame on the police are indeed responsible for his actions. They painted Blacks as nothing more than victims of White racism, despite there being no evidence that racial prejudice had anything to do with it, thereby ignoring Michael Brown’s violent, life-endangering actions toward Darren Wilson, and despite Eric Garner’s medical condition that resulted in death under conditions that would not have killed a normally healthy man of his age.'


"What do we want? Dead cops! When do we want it? Now!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj4ARsxrZh8

Well, now they have them. The lying media and oportunistic types, such as the mayor, are directly responsible for the shooting death of 2 cops, who, BTW, WERE meant to be white, but the killer only mistook Ramos and Liu for whites because of the late hour at which the shootings took place.

Also, much can be discussed in the Garner case but a few FACTS are clear to anybody interested in the TRUTH: the police arrested Garner due to his selling of untaxed cigarettes which is a crime. Store owners appear to have called the cops, probably cause they feel harmed by that kind of competition. If one feels that such black market operations should be allowed, one should nevertheless understand that the police cannot choose which laws to enforce. Garner, btw, had been arrested over 30 times until his final encounter with the police. The other fact is that IT IS CLEAR from the footage that the cop did NOT murder Garner. He had no intention of causing the man any serious harm and clearly used the hold merely as a means to take Garner down so he could be put into cuffs. Garners poor health coupled with the stress of the situation led to his unfortunate death. As a brown belt in BJJ, I'm very familiar with a variety of chokeholds and we should not exagerate them either. I've seen many practioneers pass out without any other serious consequences.

SO, the death of Mr.Garner was unfortunate but it was NOT murder, much less RACIST MURDER. This is BS. I've looked at the police stats from NY and in fact, it's easier to be shot by police if you are white than if black.
B's line that NYPD cops routinely 'murder' blacks and that it is due to racism is pure wishful thinking.

94% of blacks in Zamerica are murdered by other blacks and even though blacks are at most 13% of the population they commit over 50% of homicides.
Alas, we don't see zamerican blacks or liberal race baiters talking about these relevant issues.

Oh, and mr.B, I was right about that punk Michael Brown after all. Forensics and witnesses corroborated wilsons version.

Sheeple, mr.b??

Perhaps u should look at yourself in the mirror first. Following the race baiting msm liberal media the way you have been. And then the cheap attempt to create a connection with NS to boot!!
Pure Sophistry!

If I were a NYPD officer I'd turn my back on De Blasio like they did.

Posted by: Luca K | Dec 28, 2014 5:54:18 PM | 23

LuKKK, go hang yourself please, it'be an act of benevolence to slightly improve global IQ of your master race.

Posted by: zingaro | Dec 28, 2014 6:34:56 PM | 24

@23,

It is Illegal a criminal offense, in New York for cops to use a chokehold on anyone, black, white, or purple. Three cops were charged and found guilt of criminally negligent homicide in 1983 in the Michael Stewart case. The NYPD made it an absolute policy in 1993. In Garner's case, the Medical Examiner ruled Garner's death a homicide,

To suggest that selling individual cigarettes on the street is tantamout to selling countraband interfering with retail stores is risible. He probably bouught the cigarettes in the store he was outside of.

Posted by: MRW | Dec 28, 2014 7:47:32 PM | 25

@20,

Tough. Fed up with it. It's holocaust porn, made more despicable by what Israel did to Gaza this past summer. You can take it to the bank, callit, that I am not alone, There is zero sympathy left.

Posted by: MRW | Dec 28, 2014 7:55:04 PM | 26

Posted by: callit | Dec 28, 2014 4:54:14 PM | 20

Before you regress too far into Hasbara, I suggest you take a deep (and sobering) breath and read this extract from an article by Gilad Atzmon called Judea Declares War on Obama.

On March 24, 1933, The Daily Express (London) published an article announcing that the Jews had already launched their boycott against Germany and threatened a forthcoming "holy war". The Express urged Jews everywhere to boycott German goods and demonstrate actively against German economic interests.

The Express said that Germany was "now confronted with an international boycott of its trade, its finances, and its industry....in London, New York, Paris and Warsaw, Jewish businessmen are united to go on an economic crusade."

Jewish texts tend to glaze over the fact that Hitler's March 28 1933, ordering a boycott against Jewish stores and goods, was an escalation in direct response to the declaration of war on Germany by the worldwide Jewish leadership.

... and apologize (to yourself) for being so gullible as to believe the renovated version of Holohoax History you (and I) were indoctrinated with as children.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Dec 28, 2014 11:04:11 PM | 27

thanks b..

@4, 6 and 14 - me 4..

new bozo on the block? callit..

Posted by: james | Dec 29, 2014 12:04:58 AM | 28

@26

holocaust porn...........they waiting for you in israel

In the early 1960s, as Israelis were being exposed for the first time to the shocking testimonies of Holocaust "survivors" at the trial of Adolf Eichmann, a series of pornographic pocket books called Stalags, based on Holocaust themes, became best sellers throughout the land.
Fapped to by generations of Israeli 13 year old boys, the books told amazing stories of captured American pilots being raped by sadistic female SS officers outfitted with whips and boots. The plot often ended with heroic Jewish death camp escapees saving the day by rescuing the pilots, and raping and killing the SS officers.
The Stalags, a uniquely Jew concoction of Nazism, sex and violence, are re-emerging in the public eye, with a rekindled debate about Holocaust history, and whether it is reasonable to continue using materials with such sexual perversion and voyeurism in the Israeli high school curriculum.n the early 1960s, as Israelis were being exposed for the first time to the shocking testimonies of Holocaust "survivors" at the trial of Adolf Eichmann, a series of pornographic pocket books called Stalags, based on Holocaust themes, became best sellers throughout the land.
Fapped to by generations of Israeli 13 year old boys, the books told amazing stories of captured American pilots being raped by sadistic female SS officers outfitted with whips and boots. The plot often ended with heroic Jewish death camp escapees saving the day by rescuing the pilots, and raping and killing the SS officers.
The Stalags, a uniquely Jew concoction of Nazism, sex and violence, are re-emerging in the public eye, with a rekindled debate about Holocaust history, and whether it is reasonable to continue using materials with such sexual perversion and voyeurism in the Israeli high school curriculum.

Posted by: callit | Dec 29, 2014 5:55:52 AM | 29

@26 mrw

check this one out...


https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Holocaust_Porn

Posted by: callit | Dec 29, 2014 6:01:19 AM | 30

Thank you so much to all of you for BRING LIGHT ONTO THIS WORLD -- you are all, to some degree, the MANIFESTED DIVINITY in this world -- GOOD WILL TRIUMPH OVER EVIL -- and the Universe will have "registered" that you placed your "mark" on the side of THE GOOD. Blessings to all you, even the Poser on this site :)

Posted by: susette | Dec 29, 2014 6:05:22 AM | 31

@27 hoarseshit

i used to respect you ....when you used naughty words because you were so free on the internet site comment section

but now b won,t let you....no more naughty words naughty girl

Posted by: callit | Dec 29, 2014 6:26:08 AM | 32

A major problem in investigating police violence is that prosecutors and district attorneys are generally used to working together with the police to obtain indictments and convictions.

Forcing them to work against the police department is tantamount to a conflict of interest. We need different mechanisms and procedures for cases in which police officers are the suspects.

Posted by: ralphieboy | Dec 29, 2014 6:49:02 AM | 33

@32 susette

thank you for you kind words.....a ditty for your dotty

when day turns to night and angels do take flight when souls begin to burn let the brave stand firm come let us join together in a circle we shall stand to bring the light to shine upon the land

wheel shall turn,an earthquake,a crows call,a tower shall fall

Posted by: callit | Dec 29, 2014 7:04:29 AM | 34

okie farmer [quote linked article]: ...Much has been written, at least in the alternative media, about the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP) and the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP), two multilateral trade treaties being negotiated between the representatives of dozens of national governments and armies of corporate lawyers and lobbyists (on which you can read more here, here and here). However, much less is known about the decidedly more secretive Trade in Services Act (TiSA), which involves more countries than either of the other two.

Actually TISA is part and parcel of TTIP, and is the part of TTIP that the various campaigns across Europe (WoW, Rosa Luxemburg Stiftung, etc.) are focusing on and most vociferously trying to highlight, as the worst aspect of TTIP.

Posted by: Petra | Dec 29, 2014 9:31:42 AM | 35

And This: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026005761

Posted by: ben | Dec 29, 2014 10:57:20 AM | 38

Yes, I hear you. It does seem unprofessional for the police to have turned their backs on the mayor.

And yet, and yet... even if you don't agree with the reasons for their doing it, I personally am somewhat happy that at least one fraction of this country are not just good little robots.

A foolish politeness is the hobgoblin of sheep and other domestic animals. If the rich and powerful can take us for granted they will.

There is a difference between having manners, and being a masochist.

So soldiers sent off to fight stupid wars with poor equipment are all supposed to cheer Dubya and Obama? Pensioners who have had their life savings raided by Obama and his fellow hard-right Republicans should be proud to shake Obama's hand? Maybe next time an Obama or Jeb Bush motorcade comes by all of us unemployed should avert our eyes out of respect.

I think this country needs MORE disrespect, not less! When a politician lies in public, we should boo him/her and scream 'liar'. When they give everything off to the banks, and engage us in stupid wars, they should be afraid to show their faces in public out of shame. When their names come up in discussion we should splutter with anger at how they've shafted us, not defer to them as 'senior statesmen' and 'serious people'. Why not? Or are you a good little domestic animal? What other power do the regular people have anyhow?

Posted by: TG | Dec 29, 2014 11:01:12 AM | 39

@23 Luca K

I wonder why wealthy white people never get shot by cops. We can reach into our cars at traffic stops, argue with them, do illegal things, refuse an order, you name it. But we NEVER get shot for it or wrestled to the ground into a chokehold that would probably kill MANY of us. Why do you suppose that is?
And why do you think a poor Black man deserves to be shot or choked to death? Is that a fair punishment to you? I doubt you would think so if it were your family.

Posted by: anon | Dec 29, 2014 11:33:43 AM | 40

For the record, the picture does not show New York Police Department officers. It appears to show New Jersey State Troopers.

Posted by: Jack | Dec 29, 2014 12:12:05 PM | 41

I cannot help but return to the thought of LucaK's comment suggesting a man deserves to be asphyxiated by police simply because he isn't physically fit enough to survive the ordeal.
That is such a barbaric notion that belongs to the type of people who believe themselves to be superior by genetics. If you can't survive a few broken ribs when you are crushed by several uneducated adult men with guns, you deserve it?
no, it is called murder, and it's a crime. the police get away with it. people are angry about that. LucaK is a fascist!

Posted by: anon | Dec 29, 2014 1:00:28 PM | 42

I have never understood the mentality that elevates the life of one human being -- say a police officer -- above that of another's, but it seems like such an easy premise to sell to a gullible and easily led audience. The story of the two NYPD officers "executed" by the crazed black man was pitched so perfectly to our somnambulant nation, it makes one marvel that one crafty enough CAN sell ice to Eskimos, and create a black-Friday crush of people wanting to get in on the deal! Nevermind the mundane facts, like that in a recent year 2,800 civilians died at the hands of police, while only 87 officers met with "execution." Quite extrodinary, isn't it? Until things are placed in their proper context, manufactured reality bears little resemblance to the one we experience: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlY9C6pzxKc>.

Posted by: Hugo First | Dec 29, 2014 4:00:08 PM | 43

@42...anon,

"I cannot help but return to the thought of LucaK's comment suggesting a man deserves to be asphyxiated by police simply because he isn't physically fit enough to survive the ordeal."

I know. It's mindboggling, isn't it.

Posted by: MRW | Dec 29, 2014 7:45:36 PM | 44

I tend to agree with a recent piece on Counterpunch by Norman Pollock- there's a top down contempt for oversight that will and should have bad repercussions:

The chief democratic political principle is ACCOUNTABILITY. By that token, whatever happens in USG, here, torture, waterboarding, drone assassination–all acknowledged war crimes–goes directly up to the president. The conclusion: Pres. Obama is a war criminal, no DOJ eloquence, no silver-tongued public intellectuals, can distort that unvarnished truth.

Therefore, as a war criminal, he has committed treason against a democratic America and should be discharged from office for treasonous conduct. Again, unvarnished truth. And then, unceremoniously handed over to the International Criminal Court.


Posted by: Nana2007 | Dec 29, 2014 9:01:45 PM | 45

de Blasio should fire every officer that defied him.

Wow. You've outdone yourself Berhard. That's about the stupidest comment I've read in a long time

Posted by: DM | Dec 30, 2014 8:37:04 AM | 46

Yep. No love lost for DeBlasio -- but those cops should be fired or severely reprimanded (with loss of pay) for their actions. And increase the diversity of the NYPD and NYFD to diminish the effects that nepotism and mendacity has wrought.

Posted by: giddy | Dec 30, 2014 11:48:06 AM | 47

anon(42) wrote:
'I cannot help but return to the thought of LucaK's comment suggesting a man deserves to be asphyxiated by police simply because he isn't physically fit enough to survive the ordeal,blabla"


Mr.anon, You are obviously a very emotional and silly individual, not
to mention dishonest.
First of all, Garner didn't die from suffocation. He suffered a heart
attack and later died at the hospital.
He was pronounced dead about an hour after the arrest.

Nowhere did I write he deserved to die or anything even remotely
close to it. All I'm saying is the cop did not mean to cause him
any serious harm and, in a sense, that it was not the hold that
killed Garner. As someone who has trained for years in BJJ, i could
tell that right away after I saw the vid.
How about listening to 2 BJJ black belt masters on this issue of
what happened to Garner? Ryron and Rener Gracie, from the famed
BJJ Brazilian Gracie clan discuss it in a thorough manner, worth
listening to it all;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nql1xRtWKOU

Posted by: Luca K | Dec 30, 2014 6:43:09 PM | 48

Listen to who? The ME, who ruled it homicide, or some dudes on the internet?

Did they see the body? examine it? have any medical training? law expertise?

I will accept their authority on violence, but that puts them on the side as the NYPD, in PR territory, perhaps even looking for, or protecting, a contract. Any money from NYPD to the BJ dudes?

Your reasoning is actually rationale. Not the same thing.

Posted by: bob | Dec 30, 2014 11:56:11 PM | 49

@bob(49}

Stefan Molyneaux addresses many of the misconceptions re the
Garner case. Watch and learn bob.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO4YXFz5_ac

Posted by: Luca K | Jan 1, 2015 1:28:48 PM | 50

LK@50

We should thank you for showing us how deflection and projection are used to divert attention away from the systemic problem of police violence toward individual incidences that will usually be varied and confused.

The problem is occupying militias carrying out the mandates of the Ruling Class and keeping the masses under control.

Posted by: Wayoutwest | Jan 1, 2015 2:12:05 PM | 51

It's a bit of a cliché to lament that you can never find a cop when you need one. Turns out, that's not as often as folk seem to think.

Counting Saakashvili's 2005 experiment, the score stands at:

Humans- 2
Hysterical authoritarians- 0

Posted by: Monolycus | Jan 3, 2015 12:26:48 AM | 52

I can't think of any other occupation in which people would seek out greater job security by graphically demonstrating their own redundancy.

Posted by: Monolycus | Jan 3, 2015 7:16:46 AM | 53

@ Luca K
Are you also blaming mayor Deblasio and others demanding police accountability for the actions this lunatic took against his estranged girlfriend before slaying the two NYPD officers? That would be logically consistent.

Posted by: Bill J | Jan 3, 2015 10:32:01 AM | 54

Rolling Stone picked up a quote by the Post that sums up everything wrong here...

"...the protesting police have decided to make arrests 'only when they have to.' (Let that sink in for a moment. Seriously, take 10 or 15 seconds)."

And this is what makes this such a weird and cognitively dissonant phenomenon. The NYC police are protesting by doing their job and painting it as a bad thing.

RS concludes that, "...under normal circumstances, this slowdown wouldn't just make sense, it would be heroic.

Unfortunately, this protest is not about police refusing to shake people down for money on principle."

Posted by: Monolycus | Jan 3, 2015 11:25:31 PM | 55

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