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February 25, 2013

Syria: Kerry Does More Of The Same

When John Kerry on February 13 said this:
"We need to address the question of President Assad's calculation currently. I believe there are additional things that can be done to change his current perception"
He likely thought of this:
A surge of rebel advances in Syria is being fueled at least in part by an influx of heavy weaponry in a renewed effort by outside powers to arm moderates in the Free Syrian Army, according to Arab and rebel officials.

The new armaments, including anti-tank weapons and recoilless rifles, have been sent across the Jordanian border into the province of Daraa in recent weeks to counter the growing influence of Islamist extremist groups in the north of Syria by boosting more moderate groups fighting in the south, the officials say.

There are U.S. special forces on the Jordan boarder with Syria. They will likely have trained the insurgents on their new weapons. Israel is kept informed of these weapon transfers and will have a veto about what gets delivered.

The hope is that these weapons will not fall into the hands of the Nusra front and other Jihadi groups. But unless U.S. and other special forces are on the ground closely working with the insurgents that is still bound to happen. A helicopter shot down near Aleppo today and earlier videos showed the first complete SA-24 anti-air systems in the hand of some northern group. While Turkey makes of show of capturing some ammunition on its border with Syria the new stuff is still coming through and will easily fall into the hands of people who hate not only the Syrian government but also the "west".

The further weaponization of the conflict is the typical U.S. policy of more of the same. If something does not work, like sanctions on Iran or creating local "police" gangs in Afghanistan, repeat it again and again until everything fails.

There are foreign Jihadis from some 20 countries in Syria and they will not go away should the Assad government fall. The only way to get rid of them and to prevent another failed state is to help Assad to win the fight over them.

But such reasonable thought is not allowed in Washington DC. Instead we get the same stupid ideas of some corridor repeated in this or that form or unimaginative hand-wringing.

The Syrian government is ready to negotiate with anyone involved, even the armed groups. But those militants, freshly motivated by the new weapons, do not want to negotiate. The U.S. created exile opposition is childishly boycotting a conference with its supporters while demanding ever more money that it will then be unable to deliver to where it matters.

The new weapon delivery will not, as Kerry believes, change the Syrian government's "current perception". It will only reinforce it: Syria is under an external attack, it needs to fight back with all it has and with the majority support we still have, we will be able to win. The carnage will thereby continue until some outer circumstances change or sanity arrives in DC. As Washington is incapable of learning, the first is more likely to happen.

Posted by b on February 25, 2013 at 11:00 AM | Permalink

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my, my, my b
You have written a post that is quite complimentary to my post from earlier today. I even see the same WP piece I had used
However, I have delved into the weapons flowing via Israel..
Therefore, let me move the link from the prior post here:

For those interested
check it out!

Plan B for Syria:Preparations, Part 2


It ends with a quote from WP

"Although plans for an offensive on Damascus are being readied...."

As for this:
"There are foreign Jihadis from some 20 countries in Syria and they will not go away should the Assad government fall. The only way to get rid of them and to prevent another failed state is to help Assad to win the fight over them"

They (foreign jihadis) won't go away and the US and Israel do not wish for them to go away.
Their presence is very convenient for all concerned.They are needed.

"The carnage will thereby continue until some outer circumstances change or sanity arrives in DC."

Sanity? In DC?
Not a way in hell!
Ditto for Israel, UK and the entire NATO apparatus

Posted by: Penny | Feb 25, 2013 12:00:17 PM | 1

How thoroughly depressing, yet thoroughly expected

Posted by: Pat Bateman | Feb 25, 2013 1:06:01 PM | 2

b

Well said! Spot on analysis... The question remains, beyond the obvious of attempt to bleed Iran and maybe draw the Russians in deeper (in order to slow or arrest their resurgence), does the US really have a plan A?

Letting the Turks and the "Arabs" lead the way is clearing creating some problems. They are not coordinated and have sometimes conflicting agendas. The Qataris and Turks dream of a swathe of MB ruled countries to exploit (the Turks will surely pay dearly for their short sighted efforts). The Saudis are just doing what they always do, desperately directing their nut cases to any place where they can be disposed of by someone else. The remainder of the GCC are not quite sure where this all headed and are not "all in." The Egyptians tried to engage, but Mr Morsi still has a lot to learn about controlling the levers of power.

The Israeli are always happy to support the Arabs in any efforts to kill each other, I also see their hand in the Kurdish - Turkish detente as well as support for the Kurds in keeping the Iraqi government in check.

The Iranians are talking big, but everyone knows they've got bigger problems and can't afford to expend much to shore up the Syrians, but they are perfectly capable to creating chaos should the regime collapse prematurely.

The problem, which should be a killer for the US and the Western powers in general, is if these efforts succeed and the Syrian government does collapse and they create a new failed state infested with Alqaeda or like minded groups, who will be blamed for the next Benghazi or the next Mali... Or the next 911?


Posted by: OAB | Feb 25, 2013 1:09:46 PM | 3

' The Israeli are always happy to support the Arabs in any efforts to kill each other ... '

And since 9/11 the US has adopted the same goal set. Iraq is the model. Destroy the government, destroy the country. Iraq is a wonderful success and a model for them both to pursue. Libya has worked out well, too. They took a few casualties, but government seems to have been destroyed there too.

Posted by: john francis lee | Feb 25, 2013 1:36:44 PM | 4

"The hope is that these weapons will not fall into the hands of the Nusra front and other Jihadi groups. But unless U.S. and other special forces are on the ground closely working with the insurgents that is still bound to happen."

The Israeli-Americans are providing the "al Qaida" terrorist factions with plenty of weapons and close support in things like tactical intelligence. They are doing this both directly, and through their NATO and "Arab" colonials. Example:

В Алеппо ликвидированы 4 офицера турецкой армии и полевой командир террористической группировки

http://anna-news.info/node/9931

4 Turkish officers among the dead in a recent clash in Aleppo, which the terrorist lost.

Posted by: вот так | Feb 25, 2013 1:44:59 PM | 5

I had also posted relevant info and source links in a couple of posts on the Corruption conversation. I'll post the links, rather than repeat the posts.

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2013/02/corruption.html#c6a00d8341c640e53ef017d41460a92970c

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2013/02/corruption.html#c6a00d8341c640e53ef017ee8b9f89c970d

Posted by: вот так | Feb 25, 2013 1:54:08 PM | 6

I understand that this war of attrition excludes any real change for "western politics". It is even obvious to many, that something is "wrong" about the situation in Syria. Even people that are not into "alternative news" come to the conclusion, that a lot of statements made by the MSM (Kerry, Hollande, whatever) is just contradictory:I.e. good islamists: Syria, bad Islamists: Mal. But I do not understand, even if diplomatic language is used, why the Russian FM is not taking the western rules (jabat al Nusrah is a terrorist Organization, there are plenty more of other FSA fighters who just want demockracy) as an excuse to openly support "the Syrian citizens against terrorism" and get even more involved. After all the Russians KNOW, there are gasfields, and KNOW that this hidden "project" is also threatening their legitimacy and borders. Im not trying to make a point here, i just wonder why the Russians do not say " Ok, we are for demockracy and everything, but we want to make sure the "sworn enmey of the US", namely Al-Ciada is not endangering a peaceful negotiated solution. So we have to act not only with words, as Islamists are deaf to any dialogue, but we have to "smoke them out of their caves", just as W. Bush claimed ist was the right thing to do in Afghanistan." Why NOT? Id be thankful for any explanation.

Posted by: Kal | Feb 25, 2013 1:57:40 PM | 7

There are foreign Jihadis from some 20 countries in Syria

Just one of those countries is Yemen. How much Yemen fighters are travelling to Syria? According to Yemeni journalist, Nasser Arrabyee 5,000 in the last four months. So much so that Turkish Airlines has increased its weekly flights to Yemen from 1 to 4.

More than 5000 young people recruited by Islamist leaders and financed by Qatar and Saudi Arabia were transported from Aden to Istanbul over the last four months, according to security sources in the airport of Aden.

Source: Narrabyee-e

Two weeks ago, Yemens President Abdu Rabu Mansour Hadi, even signed a bilateral agreement with Turkey cancelling Entry visas for Yemeni's passing through Turkey. Source: Business Insider

Posted by: Colm O' Toole | Feb 25, 2013 2:08:25 PM | 8

Kal - 7

RE: Russian involvement in Syria

One of the reasons that Israel-America is attacking Syria is to get the Russians involved in the fighting there, exactly like they did in Afghanistan from 1979 through the late 80's. Israel-America want to recreate the scenario they created in Afghanistan, and drain the Russians economically, emotionally and in the sphere of engineered "world opinion" in the same manner. The Russians aint biting this time. One bitten, twice shy. The Russians realise the trap, and have turned the Israeli-American strategy against these fascists. It is Israel-America who are being seen as the terrorists.

Posted by: вот так | Feb 25, 2013 2:11:58 PM | 9

@7,

Russia has tried that in the Balkans for centuries. Their justifications never wash with the Western press/governments. Increased Russian presence would only be used to promote further NATO presence.

Posted by: biklett | Feb 25, 2013 2:15:08 PM | 10

John Kerry: Strengthening Israel’s security and bolstering the US-Israel special relationship.

"John Kerry has been at the forefront of the fight for Israel’s security during his nineteen years in the US Senate. His pro-Israel voting record is second to none."

Oh, poor, poor Israel. I'm feeling oh so guilty...

Posted by: Daniel Rich | Feb 25, 2013 2:44:56 PM | 11

The hope is that these weapons will not fall into the hands of the Nusra front and other Jihadi groups.

b, I think the hope is merely for (barely) plausible deniability and is directed at the US public. Propaganda aimed at the home audience need not convince everyone, or even be marginally credible. It only needs to be good enough to persuade the majority, who either don't think about it, or are inclined to believe the government.

The sucker jihadis may be too dumb to know the whole plan. In their minds, they may be planning a stepping stone to attack Israel. But as soon as they are done in Syria, all that Qatari/Saudi/Turkish money-weapons-training will disappear in a puff of smoke. And from the US/Israeli perspective, an occasional attack just makes it easier to pose as victims before the rest of the world.

Posted by: Lysander | Feb 25, 2013 2:46:39 PM | 12

Forgive my ignorance for the "western" (vulgo us/nato) perspective. It is a) boringly well-known and b) doomed to fail.

I see again and again that same error (Pardon me but that's how I see it) of seeing the "west" as the actor and the east as a mere - and supposedly calculatable - re-actor. While this was of looking at thing was a proper one for then of years (when the "west" believed in an american century) it's not working anymore, at least not exclusively.

Simple reasons:

The "west" *has* failed and has failed many times, in particular in Russia.
Putin and Lawrow are smarter than their western counter-parts and Russian are smarter ("better and more profoundly and more seriously educated) than their western counter-parts.

Just one major factor as an example: Image vs. Reality.
While culture and education have almost brutally degraded and been replaced by attitude, nice words and dogma, Russia has always kept their intelligentsia and high academic standards. While hilarious clinton basically wasn't much more than a preaching and barking zionist dog, Putin had to overcome real obstacles (and many of them usrael made), he had to build up a real economy and a real working country.

Ever wondered why we hear so little about the usa from Russian intelligentsia? Because behind all the show noise and the lurid, piercing colours there isn't much to be taken seriously. Pretty everyone in my personal environments considers americans arrogant and mercilessly stupid primitve scum (except for a thin layer of intelligent americans who then, no wonder, are attacked by their own people for being "leftist" or "communist").

Actually the situation in Syria works out nicely for Russia. For multiple reasons and quite funnily in the game that is considered their game by the usa. The "west" is loosing credibility and sympathy by the day. All Lawrow has to do (publicly) is to insist, insist, insist on playing along international rules and to remind what ignoring the international rules and replacing them by arbitrary "western" rules brought us in Libya. Who is to oppose that? How could one oppose that line? No way. And the west looses day by day and looks more criminal day by day.
At the same time the door is wide open for Assad to invite Russia as a neutral 3rd party that has proven again and again to honour international law to help the government and the people in Syria.

And there the "western" perspective would bite them again, if they dared to go against Russia. Because Russia has real soldiers rather than tired, desillusioned cowards and real money rather than trillions of debts along with a loud mouth, and real friends and partners rather than obedient satellites.

It's not the usa trying to lure Russia into a war. That's just the show version. The real version is that Russia has drawn a clear line and that the usa, albeit with lots of noises and show suggesting another interpretation, has caved in. It's not anymore that usa to make the decisive rules, it's Russia, China, BRICS, even Iran. All that is left for the usa is what is left to a 75 years old former diva; to keep a nice image alive and to retreat. If she doesn't she will have a brutal awakening.

Posted by: Mr. Pragma | Feb 25, 2013 3:09:25 PM | 13

Off topic: He died of cardiac arrest and A smarter empire is no substitute for a lost republic.

Posted by: Daniel Rich | Feb 25, 2013 3:47:42 PM | 14

"...All Lawrow has to do (publicly) is to insist, insist, insist on playing along international rules and to remind what ignoring the international rules and replacing them by arbitrary "western" rules brought us in Libya. Who is to oppose that? How could one oppose that line?..."
You're not paying attention, Mr Pragma: Washington does not care how often it is revealed to be lying and hypocritical. The only public whose opinion it cares about is its own and it has that in the bag. There were more opposition voices in the Supreme Soviet under Stalin than there are in Congress today.
Much of what you say is right: idiocy is the most prominent characteristic of the US political class; a country in which it is impossible to criticise Israeli fascism, in public, is one in which rational minds are stultified and a social explosion, in the near term, is inevitable.
But like an old, drunken, blubber wrapped wrestler stumbling about in a bar this behemoth without brains can wreak havoc and wipe out cities.
And that is what is happening in Syria: there is no reason behind it, it is unconscionable and clearly evil but the killing will go on, until those responsible start to pay penalties. And there is no sign that that will happen soon.
After all half of the "socialists" in Europe have convinced themselves that the salafi terrorists are a bolshevik vanguard fighting Assad to establish workers and peasants councils.

Posted by: bevin | Feb 25, 2013 3:49:10 PM | 15

@ bevin [#15],

I think you might be on to something, because of this, but don't forget about this.

Posted by: Daniel Rich | Feb 25, 2013 4:11:15 PM | 16

As much as I hate to say it, I fear things will end badly for Assad, the Alawites and all the other minorities (why? Good luck living in Sharia Theocracy).

Syria is surrounded by hostile nations (though Iraq is sympathetic being former baathist and majority Shia). Only by the sea is it back up by Russia. Support is only coming in from Iraq and Lebanon (though the terrorists use that as well) and Iran by air though the terrorists are trying to block that (trying to take airports thereby denying support) and the US (trying to block flights from Iran through Iraqi airspace (anyone has some news on this? it's been real quiet about the US trying to block flights).

The ultimate goal of the US and its cronies is weakening Iran (and by default Hezbollah). If regime change doesn't go the fast way (they've had to swallow quite some bitter defeats the last 2 years) they'll do it the slow way. This war of attrition is not something a country can endure for very long (not with the Gulf states bankrolling the terrorists). I guess a failed state is acceptable to them as well (that way Israel can just appropriate the Golan heights with all its mineral riches since Syria will not be a country anymore).

With the renewed effort of arming the terrorists they apparently are trying to block the growing influence of Jabhat al Nusra and will likely try to push for a ("liberated free zone".

The talks will either fail or not happen since these triggerhappy/recently supplied terrorists won't go for peace (neither would the US allow it since that would only justify Russia and China's position from the start). Since the Patriots are in place I think it's only time before the no fly zone gets implemented. How Syria will react to that I'd like to know.

Russia will not get sucked into a war (as OAB #3 pointed out) and the only way I can see this conflict turning the other way is for Hezbollah to take a more active part and for Iran to join the fun and send in the cavalry. On the other hand that is exactly what the US and it's cronies want! A weakened Iran spending loads of money it needs itself because of the sanctions.

Posted by: Gehenna | Feb 25, 2013 4:20:04 PM | 17

Well said Gehenna.

I've tried to explain to many why the Russians won't go in with guns blazing -- this is what the US and its allies want. If this happened, they would simply use Russian military involvement as an excuse to then overtly arm the terrorists with more sophisticated weaponry and NATO would then impose a no-fly zone over the country. Russia and China actually have the side of international law in their corner for now. I predicted last year that there would be a provocative attack against the Russians in Syria either at their embassy or at their base in Tartus to provoke them (they came close last week). IF this should happen, there would definitely be a response, but probably along the lines of covert special forces, NOT a large scale military operation which would play into NATO's hands. I think one of the mistakes Assad made was not to have sealed the borders early on in the conflict. It's simply shocking to me that these terrorists can just stream across the Turkish border with weapons supplied by the west unimpeded. the rebels still have yet to take a major city, so they're still a long way off from "victory."

Posted by: RC | Feb 25, 2013 4:51:16 PM | 18

Completely off topic: The disturbing skit gave new urgency to the question of whether, 68 years after the Holocaust on European and North African soil... Link.

Did I miss something?

Posted by: Daniel Rich | Feb 25, 2013 5:39:38 PM | 19

@RC 18: Thank you!

Russian involvement would indeed have escalated the conflict giving the US the excuse they've been dying for (look at the desperate/miserable attempt to use the downing of the turkish F4 and the BS chemical warfare claims as a reason for attack). Russia and China wisely did not allow any vaguely formulated UN resolution to pass so that avenue (Libya scenario) is blocked.

It's simply shocking to me that these terrorists can just stream across the Turkish border with weapons supplied by the west unimpeded. the rebels still have yet to take a major city, so they're still a long way off from "victory.

Instead of the direct approach they tried the indirect approach which is to flood it with jihadists and weapons from Tunisia, Libya and the gulf states. You can't expect the Syrian government to guard the borders. The borders are porous so they would have flooded in regardless though as soon as they had a bordercrossing the donkey trails would be left in favour of the asfalt roads.

As to the cities. I wouldn´t be surprised if Allepo (and maybe Idlib) will be abandoned totally since they have resorted to a modern version of siege warfare which is to block all roads of supply (they take over the surrounding villages and airfields and thus starve them). Maybe only by a iraq scenario (the awakening council) with armed village militias will they be able to secure the countryside. Which is what I've been seeing (Iran training militias and Hezbollah protecting those villages on the border).

I predicted last year that there would be a provocative attack against the Russians in Syria either at their embassy or at their base in Tartus to provoke them (they came close last week).

What attack are you referring to? The carbomb attack in Damascus? Or did something happen in/near Tartus? (if so link please). Your prediction does make sense considering this declaration.

Personally I think they will go for the liberated area scenario with backup from the no fly zone to force Syria to the negotiating table (without Assad) or to force them to attack/violate the no fly zone thus escalating the conflict.

Though the false flag chemical warfare attack is still a very real possibility.

Posted by: Gehenna | Feb 25, 2013 5:44:51 PM | 20

@ Gehenna [#20],

Q: The carbomb attack in Damascus?

R: According to various news sources the bomb exploded on a highway close to ruling Baath Party offices and the Russian Embassy. Here are some horrific pictures of the aftermath of that attack.

Posted by: Daniel Rich | Feb 25, 2013 6:28:23 PM | 21

bevin (15)

"Washington does not care how often it is revealed to be lying and hypocritical. The only public whose opinion it cares about is its own and it has that in the bag. There were more opposition voices in the Supreme Soviet under Stalin than there are in Congress today."

I know that. But I also know that this is once more the hybris that will finally turn around americas neck. You see, you imply that it's important what Washington thinks. It's not (anymore).

We have to see the difference between 20 years ago and today.

20 years ago the usa was the superpower and an admired one; whatever they thought, said and did was soon after found around major parts of the world. In a somewhat similar fashion israel was seen as a, no, the, democracy in their part of the world and anyone daring to criticize israel was simply (and seriously) considered an anti-semite and an anti-democrat.

Nowadays tha usa is more and more alone and even most of its friends and allies are hardly more than a thin layer of vanity represented by corrupt and greedy politicians - the people, however, are having doubts and are begining to leave their "golden cage"(?), they begin to question rather than to blindly believe. In a similar fashion today things can be said about israel that couldn't be dared to be said even 10 years ago; and again there is a bluntly widening gap between the thin layer of politicians and the people. very often, if someone is called "anti-semite" nowadays that's actually not burdening that target but rather the one shouting it.

20 years ago, what the usa thought and said was like the implicit law of the world. Nowadays it's *known* - and known by increasingly many - to be lies of thugs.

The same meta-structure holds true militarily. While the increasingly unrealistic arrogant american congress considers itself the center of the world, in the real world Russia and China openly and sometimes even rudely confront the us (to say it politely. I've heard people say "Putin pi**es right into americas face").

The bloody truth is that the usa wanted their dollar to stay in power all over the world and they even started wars to enforce that - and they lost.
The bloody truth is that the usa wanted to weaken and bring under their control the former sowjet region. They even started a series of colour wars to that end - and they lost.
Maybe the worst error of the usa was to bet on technology rather than humans (including their own peopla). The usa, however, didn't win WW2 due to weapons but due to people who really and honestly believed in their state and their values. They don't do that anymore (beyond cheap talk). us soldiers coming back from WW 2 were proud; those returning today are humiliated (incl. by their own government), desillusioned and tired.
Actually there are roughly as many us soldiers who kill themselves as there are who get killed by enemy fire.
The usa wanted to stay in control of the oil market. Today they are (for a change) destroying their own country by fracking simply because they know that they can't stay in control and actually have lost it already. In a less brain-washed world this would simply be called what it is: a retreat, a pull-out.

And *how* would the usa fight the final war? Definitely not nuclear; that would necessarily be self-destruction.
With fighter jets that are super-duper high-tech but fall from the sky without beeing shot at? With soldiers that can't even be shipped to a theater without clima-control and a PX? With soldiers who would know that this time, dealing not with a weakened small country but with Russia probably supported by China, there were actually a high risk to die?
Against millions and millions of real soldiers, soldiers that need no clima-control, no PX?

Nope. The usa *is* currently fighting - and loosing - a war - and not even realizing it. The war for their final grounds, the war to be perceived as the good ones. Cynically they do not realize that because they dumbly take that as a given.

The real problem - and the theater of this war - goes deeper and in an ugly way.

I remember when I as a young man blue-eyedly believed and actually presumed to be the reality that we in Europe had a free press and that what they wrote was basically what had actually happened. I know shifted, remote-controlled reality simply because I lived in one myself.

That's what I'm talking about.

That's the last powerbase of the usa; people looking at everything from *their* remote controlled perspective. Doing that, of course things look the way they are meant to look, particularly when the "free press" lies and bends and invents events to make everything look the "right way" and pushes that dirt mercilessly into peoples minds.

The usa is no relevant power anymore. The major reason not to bluntly rip them apart but let them continue to make noise for a little while isn't their power but the reasonability and reasoning of the real powers that this is not necessary and would be rather expensive. Letting the usa blood out and basically just not hindering their slow suicide will do fine and cheaper.

Looking at things from another, more objective and free perspective shows that it's Russia and China who play games with the usa and not the other way around. The fact that 99.9% in the western world don't grasp that doesn't change the facts but actually strongly contributes to a victory (by further bleeding and weakening) over the usa.

Posted by: Mr. Pragma | Feb 25, 2013 6:33:14 PM | 22

Turkish police disperse pro-Syria demo in Hatay

http://en.trend.az/regions/met/turkey/2123194.html

"Clashes have broken out between Turkish police and supporters of the Syrian government in Turkey's southern province of Hatay, Press TV reports.

Police on Saturday used tear gas and pepper spray to disperse the demonstrators who were calling for an end to Ankara's interference in the internal affairs of Syria.

The demonstrators also protested against the presence of US forces in Turkey.

Over the past few months, Turkey has also been witnessing demonstrations against the deployment of NATO's Patriot missiles and the presence of foreign troops in the country.

Germany, the Netherlands, and the United States have each deployed two missile batteries along Turkey's border with Syria.

The missile systems became operational about a month ago. Ankara says the deployment is necessary to counter 'threats' from Syria. However, Damascus has called the move 'provocative.'

On February 15, the Syrian government sent a letter to the United Nations, censuring Turkey's 'destructive' role in the turmoil that Syria has been experiencing for nearly two years."

Posted by: вот так | Feb 25, 2013 10:21:02 PM | 23

Gehenna -

I should of clarified that I was speaking of the car bomb attack in Damascus last week which was very close by the Russian embassy. I don't think Russia has thrown Syria under the bus, in fact, their position has remained pretty much unchanged since the start of the conflict despite all of the "sources" in the western press falsely claiming otherwise. While they would probably like to keep their base in Tartus and maintain the Syrian government as a client for their weapons, they have to weigh the consequences geo-politically, which is something the "Russia must rush in crowd" must keep in mind. Also, there's also the specter of nuclear war looming if NATO & Russia should military cross hairs in Syria - something that would be in no one's interest. I think many people here admire the fact that Russia and China can have independent foreign policies like all sovereign governments should, but they must keep in mind the danger this perfectly rational concept poses to US hegemony. The John McCain's and Hilary Clinton's would like nothing more than to confront Russia directly in Syria in an attempt to humiliate the Russian military. I think Putin & Lavrov are too smart for this. They know American influence is waning and that their bloated imperial war-making machine is unsustainable.

Posted by: RC | Feb 25, 2013 11:02:39 PM | 24

Excellent analysis, b.

Since you wrote this entry, Kerry has gone one better and drawn a fatuous and puerile word-picture of "Assad's Scuds" raining down on "his own people."

Kerry's brand of claptrap is extremely irritating because we can still remember that Yankee mouthpieces weren't whining and wringing their hands over the US-NATO bombs raining down on Saddam's or Qaddafi's "people."

I'll bet I'm not the only person sick of having his chain yanked by lying, bullying, Yankee chickenhawks.

Bullying + Lying = cowards. No exceptions.

Americans will pay a very high price for allowing a bunch of overtly amoral criminals hijack their Govt and Constitution.
And quite soon, imo.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 25, 2013 11:15:25 PM | 25

Hate to pee on the doomsday parade. My prediction is that in the next few weeks we will see the US enter into serious discussions with the Iranians. This will result in the US accepting the right of Iran to enrich U235 for it's nuclear reactors. In addition there will be some kind of acceptance on the part of the US that IRI is the legitimate representative of Iran. Probably will involve some lessening of the sanctions.

Not sure what will happen with Syria though.

Posted by: ToivoS | Feb 25, 2013 11:56:29 PM | 26

Some interesting stuff in this vid apart from NASA having to lay off 7000.
Implied is that the flight on which Clinton was sadly (only) slightly hurt was commandeered by Iranian boffs and clumsily landed at an Iranian airport.
A second US drone was captured.
This was accomplished using new tech that Iran and Syria possess, hence Pentagon - NASTO's hesitance to attack? But doesn't explain how Iraeli jets managed to bomb the Syrian research centre where perhaps the new tech is being explored.
Iran Already Has Free Energy That Could Render Military Industrial Complex Obsolete
http://21stcenturywire.com/2013/02/25/iran-already-has-free-energy-that-would-render-military-industrial-complex-obsolete/

It would explain Iran's confidence in announcing 16 new reactors to be built.
The tech has been given to 17 countries so far including the US. I wonder how many are US clients?

Does the tech allow missiles to be rerouted?

Posted by: Clothcap | Feb 26, 2013 12:26:15 AM | 27

26) Do you really think that a grand bargain with Iran is possible without ending the proxy wars? And do you think any of the rulers in the region who profit from the proxy wars and need it for importance and power, have an interest for the US achieving that bargain? That includes Israel. If there is no more "cold war" in the region, a lot of players will lose their importance, backing and funding. The US and Europe actually have an interest in ending this (not necessarily their military industrial complex but anyone else) as the sanctions are self defeative. However the Gulf Kingdoms will be endangered by their own people and Israel will be forced into a peace with the Palestinians.
Opening the Jordanian border for Saudi weapons and funds will have the same effect, though, just some people still dream they can keep those weapons and funds under control. Just a lot more people will die.

Posted by: somebody | Feb 26, 2013 12:31:24 AM | 28

My prediction is that in the next few weeks we will see the US enter into serious discussions with the Iranians.

That's a pretty amazing prediction. Based on what?

Posted by: DM | Feb 26, 2013 1:56:55 AM | 29

I think the the West, after betting on the wrong horse(fsa victory in a short time) and suffering for it, have now decided to go for broke and destroy Syria. Did people really believed this was all about democracy? Dream on...

You don't even hear stupid statements from the WhiteHouse about Assad having only weeks to go anymore. The news about the US going to supply heavy weapons to the fsa terrorists is nothing new. It's just that it's become stupid to hide US involvement any longer - they've been providing/facilitating weapons shipment to the terrorists from day one. People know the fsa terrorists don't get their weapons from the candy shops.

I do not think it'll make much difference on the ground, though. The Syrian army have a massive arsenal that keeps being replenished by Russia and Iran. For there to be any significant turn on the ground in favor of the fsa, the US will have to send in 100 massive cargo-sized ships full of weapons, but that will defeat the whole purpose of this "peaceful uprising" and will certainly draw in other countries. In effect, the very thing the West had hope to avoid is exactly what they'll achieve - another Afghanistan right at the border of her allies Turkey, Jordan, Israel and not to mention Lebanon.

2 years and still no regime change surely leave a bad taste in mouths of many in Washington, Brussels, Paris, Berlin and London. They must be wondering, why can't Syria just cave in and surrender just like all the rest???

Posted by: Zico | Feb 26, 2013 2:29:53 AM | 30

@ DM [@29],

Q: That's a pretty amazing prediction. Based on what?

R: When I had this add up in Tayo [a supermarket around the corner], that read: "Wanted clairvoyant, you know where to reach me." ToivoS didn't phone me, so that can't be it.

Posted by: Daniel Rich | Feb 26, 2013 3:33:25 AM | 31

Walt on Iran - Stephen Walt : On Iran, try backscratching, not blackmail

Posted by: Daniel Rich | Feb 26, 2013 5:21:54 AM | 32

FYI: to those interested

Curiously we allegedly have a UN "peacekeeper" missing from the Golan border

News is just coming out now though the Austrian....no the Canadian
has been missing for three weeks now....

The leak of this news coincides with the news that Israel,the same nation that gatekeepers claim is not a beneficiary of the ruin of Syria, awards contracts to a Cheney linked oil company to begin drilling in the occupied Golan....

"Gatekeepers" wolves dressed as sheep in the media alt and otherwise

http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.ca/2013/02/un-staffer-missing-from-golan-heights.html


Posted by: Penny | Feb 26, 2013 8:26:38 AM | 33

You don't seem to be considering the possibility that the US is simply trying to save face and hide the fact that it has lost. The Syrian government is in a much stronger position than six months ago, and any momentum in this war is against the invaders. In the view of the Syrians in Syria I've heard, it's just a question of how long the anti-Syrian countries want to push for low-level terrorism and disruption of the economy. This might go on for years, or it might end in a couple of months.

Posted by: Paul | Feb 26, 2013 9:10:48 AM | 34

What John Kerry has become since his stand with the VVAW folks, is disgusting. Worming his way into the new spokesperson for the pursuits of empire. SICK!

Posted by: ben | Feb 26, 2013 10:09:05 AM | 35

Funny. Again and again "the us wants this or that", "the us will do", "this or that us figure will/wants blah".

Could we agree for a moment to take the prism glasses off? Let's look at Iran, OK. Sure enough it can be agreed upen that Iran was/is a major target of american policy.

What has *really* happened?

The usa has brought all forces up it still somewhat controls. It even managed to get some (not too tough) anti-Iran UN resolutions. It has its media hollering against Iran day and night. And it has its nato-satellites looking angrily at Iran.

Has it worked? Short answer: No.

Yes, it has caused some damage to Iran, no question. But - and this is widely overlooked - it has done major damage to the usa, too.

Before Iran a us "This is a bad country and anyone supporting it or even just doing business with it will regret that!" was like a binding law no one dared to act against.

Nowadays it's more like "Righty right, so the usa and their satellites will plus minus sail within that line - but the rest doesn't care sh*t".


And, far worse, it brought major damage to the core of the us, the dollar. Formertimes unthinkable, today major economies, countries and forces are openly trading non-dollar or even against the dollar. China, americas largest creditor is minimizing their dollar basket, even huge portions of the global oil-deals are explicitely done non-dollar.

The power of the us was strongly based on the us$ being the worlds "reserve currency" (equating to the "the international currency used for international trade). This is broken. More and more countries, companies and deal makers are evading - and openly so - the us$.

More a side-effect but still not ignorable, Europe has taken major damage, too. In part this can be seen linked to the Anti-Iran line directly.

Now, let's look at the "enemies".

Yes, Iran had to take some damage. But it has also immensly increased its power. Today Iran is widely independent; they build their own airplanes (based on Antonov design and help), their own ships, their own cars. Whatever else they need is delivered by major powers like Russia and China.
Russia and China have considerably increased in power, too.

Many just can't see that because of the usrael media control painting a different and very pro-usrael picture of the reality. And, wether we like that or not, 90% of what we know (or believe to know) comes out of the media.

Ad Kerry:

I don't think that they will reach a positive agreement in Astana. The usa will fight, if not for their position then for the image of a position, to the bitter end. What everyone else would call "reasonable balance" would be perceived as "giving up" by the us.
On the other hand, the fact that the us has very much lost in power, will need to reflect in the negotiations.
Also: The real point in Astana isn't "May Iran or may they not have a peaceful nuclear program?". That's just a front.
The real question is "How can an arrangement be found for the us to give in without too evidently loosing their face?". In that regard I expect some mild form of progress, quite probably not in terms of conceding anything to Iran but rather in terms of changing Irans image to one with less sharp edges.

Posted by: Mr. Pragma | Feb 26, 2013 11:45:17 AM | 36

I got the impression that when Panetta and Dempsey admitted a couple of weeks ago that they were in favour of arming the rebels but that Obama had prevented it, it was an attempt to give credit to the President for stopping what would have been the delivery of weapons to militants, rather than a slur.

We were told for the US to directly arm the rebels would be to add fuel to the fire. To now start arming them so soon after these statements were made seems unlikely to me, unless it was an attempt to disguise later actions and distance themselves from allegations of arming militants.

Who knows..

Easier to base perception of realities from what happens on the ground in Syria, and I've heard of no rebel 'surge' in the South, and it's a bloody quagmire in the North.

Posted by: Pat Bateman | Feb 26, 2013 12:21:23 PM | 37

ToivoS - 26

"This will result in the US accepting the right of Iran to enrich U235 for it's nuclear reactors."

And the day after, Israel will stage a false flag attack on an American city using a dirty bomb and having the Jewish/zionist lobby and media make sure Iran gets all the blame for it.

Posted by: вот так | Feb 26, 2013 12:30:58 PM | 38

This whole argument about whether the US should arm rebels is a joke.
The terrorists have always had an abundant supply of weapons. As the Russians said, the US cannot absolve itself from responsibility by claiming they are not arming the terrorists. Does anyone believe Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar would dare funnel these arms if the direct order was not straight from Washington?

Here is more proof of CIA fighters on the ground in Syria:
American FSA Matthew VanDyke in Syria Feb 25, 2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKNu-Z5T4ZY

Posted by: Hilmi Hakim | Feb 26, 2013 12:31:37 PM | 39

Once again, the goal of the Syrian crisis is 1) in the short term, degrade Syria's military - especially its missile arsenal (and by extension allow Israel to degrade Hizballah's missile arsenal) so neither party can be an effective actor in the upcoming Iran war, and 2) in the long term destabilize both Syria and Lebanon as part of Israel's overall plan to destabilize and break up ALL the Middle East states.

This is Israel's policy and it is fully supported by the neocons, the military-industrial complex, the oil companies, the banks who finance them, and the politicians who receive their campaign contributions and bribes from those entities.

There is no turning back this tide. There will be no diplomatic solution in Syria and any discussion of it is about as interesting as how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. People need to wake up and smell the excrement that lies at the heart of the US corporate state.

H/T: antiwar.com

Posted by: Cynthia | Feb 26, 2013 12:39:34 PM | 40

Pat Bateman - 37

"unless it was an attempt to disguise later actions and distance themselves from allegations of arming militants."

There you go. It's all perception management. Ignore what Israel-Americans say, look at things from the view of a fascist, zionist aligned, hegemon with a single minded goal of total world dominance to understand what they are doing. They don't vary much from the logical paths one would take to reach that goal.

Posted by: вот так | Feb 26, 2013 12:43:21 PM | 41

Lavrov: Extremists Prevailed in Syrian Opposition and Are Blocking Dialogue

http://www.sana-syria.com/eng/22/2013/02/26/469434.htm

"Russian Foreign Minister, Sergei Lavrov, said the extremists have prevailed within the Syrian opposition ranks and are blocking an initiatives that could lead to dialogue.

"Several days ago we thought that the conditions had become more clear for the sides to sit at the negotiating table…There emerged voices in favor of urgently starting such dialogue, without prerequisite conditions…However these voices were later silenced," Lavrov told reporters after meeting in Moscow with his Dutch counterpart Frans Timmermans.

"It seems that extremists…have prevailed in the ranks of the opposition at this time, including the so-called National Coalition, blocking all initiatives that could lead to the start of dialogue," Lavrov was quoted as saying by Russia Today website..."

This is the doing of Israel-America, who directly control the moves of the extremists (IE: the usual "al Qaida" terrorists), and which are much more closely under the control of this fascist-zionist axis than some of the others considered less extreme.

Brahimi Moves Further away from Neutrality as Broker to Solve Crisis in Syria

http://www.sana-syria.com/eng/22/2013/02/26/469453.htm

"UN Envoy to Syria, Lakhdar Brahimi, is going too far in moving away from neutrality in his position as a broker to solve the crisis in Syria as he went beyond overlooking the terrorism practiced by al-Qaeda-linked takfiri groups in Syria to even justify these terrorist acts.

"Some often describe as terrorism what others see as a liberation movement, and I think the situation in Syria is similar to this," Brahimi told English-speaking Russia Today channel..."

War criminal.

Posted by: вот так | Feb 26, 2013 1:03:07 PM | 42

West will not change its hypocritical stance on Syria: James Corbett

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/02/26/290950/wests-syria-agenda-unchanged/

"...Press TV: Indeed speaking of this of this conference tell us a bit more about what in your view is going to happen in this conference. Many are saying that we will see another new organization being put together by the US; one that is more controllable with regards to Syria as Moaz al-Khatib has been started making his own demands and trying to get what he can from the US.

Corbett:Yes, I think that there will be some negotiations on that front during this conference and there may be some sort of more pliable to the international community proposal on the table for some sort of alliance that can be more thoroughly controlled but I think regardless I think the agendas are going to be basically the same and its only question of how to implement that agenda and I think the way that this process is going to function is by the type of hypocrisy that we have seen so much of in this entire Syrian conflict where for example the Syrian foreign minister came out recently to say that Syria is willing to talk to any opposition groups that are willing to talk to them but now suddenly Kerry and others are now saying that this is unacceptable and for some reason that this is not going to happen.

So I think that this is all fundamentally based on that type of hypocrisy, so there is not much differences at this point between the international community and the opposition anyway..."

Posted by: вот так | Feb 26, 2013 1:09:54 PM | 43

Meanwhile, the Israeli-American colonial/terrorist expansion into Africa gathers more steam:

US Troops to Niger: A New Stage in the Scramble for Africa

http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-troops-to-niger-a-new-stage-in-the-scramble-for-africa/5324418

"President Barack Obama’s terse notification to Congress last week that American troops are being deployed to the northwest African nation of Niger confirms that a whole new stage in the imperialist recolonization of Africa is now in progress.

The dispatch of the first 100 troops—with hundreds more reportedly to follow—is bound up with a deal signed last month between Washington and the Niger government allowing the US military to set up a drone base on the country’s territory, creating the conditions for spreading the Obama administration’s remote-control killing spree throughout the region..."

Posted by: вот так | Feb 26, 2013 1:13:51 PM | 44

Hardly relevant news, really. This is disinformation rather, recirculation of same information, which is repeated numerous times in one form or another. That is what Chivers (“expert” of ak-47!) of NYT is doing, and the Belgian (also NYT) guy who is ostensibly concerned about proliferation of FNL rifles. One has to love NYT and WP's corporate culture. It must be unique “intellectual” experience to work in repetitive infotainment environments.

But hey, as per Kerry new Secretary of State, Americans have "right to be stupid”
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/26/us-usa-kerry-liberties-idUSBRE91P0HJ20130226 It also fall in category of “liberty”, Kerry must have an ability of divine touch. Wonder what would late George Carlin say about this if he is alive.

So..."Heavy weapons" are recoilless guns, 9K111 Fagot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvR3X0qI87Q , Strela-S that is posted, or this M79 http://www.eurokompozit.com.mk/LAUNCHER/osa/OSA%20800X600.htm which I saw on several clips? It is not going to change anything; situation will be decided on the field, with AK-47 or, in negotiation room, that's where NATO mercenaries have no aces.
There is real danger of some kind of Taif agreement (or Sykes/Picot if you will) whereby Russians and Iranians can be draw in, i.e. lebanonization/balkanization of Syrian political scene. That is exactly NATO's aim: weak Syria, that is exactly the reason Assad must stay in power, it is better indefinitely war that than Lebanon/Egypt/Iraq type of "democracy". I agree, SAA should seal and control Turkish border, but that is easy to say... As far as I know Jordan border is, sealed. Client regime itself is living in fear of Radical Salafism, that's why the US troops are there, to prevent spill over.

All in all, lot of noise and not substance. If you pay attention what WaPo is writing, and McClatchy is saying before the first trip abroad of new Secretary of State Department you waste of time, unless is have a blog to write about it. This is PR for new Secretary, to energize something euphemistically called "negotiation process".

Now, NYT reporting “Saudis Step Up Help for Rebels in Syria With Croatian Arms” and Russian site http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2013/02/23/syrian-rebels-get-arms-from-kosovo-and-bosnia.html.

Maybe once it was sociological work to separate a truth from a fiction. Not anymore, now it is black art.

Posted by: neretva'43 | Feb 26, 2013 4:35:28 PM | 45

@ Cynthia [#40],

Q: so neither party can be an effective actor in the upcoming Iran war

R: There will not be a war with Iran, imo. MSM/Hollywood might portray Iranians as insane/backward haoles. but in reality, all the Iranians I've met have been proud, humble and generous people [of course they don't represent every single soul in that country]. I don't think it's wise to go fuck with a populace that has been violently oppressed by 'our' installment of a [western embraced] puppet and his western inspired agency of peace . I don't know if you've ever been involved in street fights, but as a rule of thumb, you can ignore the guys screaming they're gonna kill you. Keep an eye on he ones that are silent, for they are the real danger. Israel didn't announce its attack on the USS Liberty, Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria or Entebbe [Idi Amin's friends, anyone?], so all its rhetoric is just that [including its 'bitch's' sabre rattling continuing in the background].

Posted by: Daniel Rich | Feb 26, 2013 6:07:56 PM | 46

Daniel Rich,

The US Military-Industry-Hollywood-CIA Complex produced the film "Argo" in order to keep hatred of Iran at a fever pitch just in case Americans forget why they hate Iran. Throw in the First Lady for good measure and keep on ranting. I rather like Iran and rather dislike what I see here. And that's not limited to Michelle flaunting her $9,000 dress and distastefully using military personnel as background props.

If Americans had apologized for their illegal coup of a democratically elected Iranian leader in 1953, maybe the Iranians would apologize for taking hostages which was actually much less brutal than what we did to them.

Wall Street's thirst for Iran's oil underlays generations of American imperial hubris.

Posted by: Cynthia | Feb 26, 2013 8:06:47 PM | 47

Completely off topic: It's good to see someone still's got cojones.

Posted by: Daniel Rich | Feb 26, 2013 8:35:51 PM | 48

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/26/us-usa-kerry-liberties-idUSBRE91P0HJ20130226

"Kerry says Americans have 'right to be stupid'"

Right? I thought it was elevated to a duty in 2002.

Posted by: guest | Feb 26, 2013 9:22:44 PM | 49

# 47 Cynthia -

Don't forget the Iranian civilian passenger airliner the US shot down in 1988, in which George Bush memorably stated that "the United States doesn't apologize for anything."

Can one imagine what the result would've been had Iran shot down an American civilian jet?

Posted by: RC | Feb 26, 2013 9:39:49 PM | 50

@48

That's show only. She is a staunch Zionists.

Posted by: neretva'43 | Feb 26, 2013 9:44:32 PM | 51

"There is no turning back this tide. There will be no diplomatic solution in Syria and any discussion of it is about as interesting as how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. People need to wake up and smell the excrement that lies at the heart of the US corporate state."

Cynthia @ 40 said this, and IMO, right on target.

Cynthia @ 47:"The US Military-Industry-Hollywood-CIA Complex produced the film "Argo" in order to keep hatred of Iran at a fever pitch just in case Americans forget why they hate Iran."

Yep! Best picture my ass! Pure, unadulterated, Horse pucky for the U.S. Sheeple.

Posted by: ben | Feb 26, 2013 10:17:31 PM | 52

"Argo" is an typical example of how history is generally portrayed in the USA.

IE: bigoted rubbish.

Posted by: вот так | Feb 26, 2013 10:39:21 PM | 53

Краткая сводка о ситуации в Сирии за 25-е февраля

http://anna-news.info/node/9963

Syrian army intercepted a couple of terrorist operated trucks carrying ammunition and gas masks near Homs after they had apparently come in from the Lebanese border.

Is Israel-America preparing their false flag attack using WMD's, and the masks are to protect the terrorist unit setting it up? Or are they just going to supply the WMD material to their terrorists to use willy nilly?

Posted by: вот так | Feb 27, 2013 12:55:27 AM | 54

Kerry's support for free speech.

Posted by: Bob Jackson | Feb 27, 2013 1:50:25 AM | 55

Cynthia @ 47:"The US Military-Industry-Hollywood-CIA Complex produced the film "Argo" in order to keep hatred of Iran at a fever pitch just in case Americans forget why they hate Iran."

And they got the president wife to give the awards. What does it say about Obama and his loyalty. I could understand if it was Lincoln which won it.

Posted by: hans | Feb 27, 2013 2:17:59 AM | 56

Why are the last nazi war criminals, like Alois Bruner, hiding in Syria? Nesselrode sent Porphy Uspensky to de-Hellenize the Antiochians which led to Michel Aflaq founding the Nazi Ba’ath party which is why ras-Putin hid Saddam’s WMD in Syria! Ohlig & Puim show Islamic extremism came from Syriac miaphysates, products of Chrysustolm trying to consummate the Channukah crimes of his Seleucid forefathers. (“Questioning is the subversion of faith” Homily I on I Timothy I- Such was the dark mind that led Justinian to abolish the universities and Olympics and bring on the plagues.) Ochrafuxy is the mother of Islam and bolshevism because they reject Aristotle in favor of Plato. We need a Christian Samaritania buffer state surrounding Israel. Just as we neutralized Greece during the Crimean and Cold wars, we need to give the Balkans back to the aboriginal Albanian Pelasgians to prevent soviet access to the straits. Iran and North Korea both share borders with Russia and are ras-Putin’s ploy to raise oil prices which is why we must fearlessly pursue the therminucular rapture against the magog’s attempt to destabilize the Saudis.

Posted by: George Kender Cpmney | Feb 27, 2013 10:49:42 AM | 57

Is 57 a computer generated spam?

Posted by: вот так | Feb 27, 2013 12:06:12 PM | 58

Officials: US to Provide Syrian Rebels With Direct Military Aid, Armored Vehicles
Definition of 'Non-Lethal Support' Being Broadened

http://news.antiwar.com/2013/02/26/officials-us-to-provide-syrian-rebels-with-direct-military-aid-armored-vehicles/

"The US is looking to dramatically broaden the definition of “non-lethal support” as it relates to Syria’s rebel factions, according to European officials familiar with recent private meetings with Secretary of State John Kerry.

Expanding the definition, the US is poised to shift policy toward providing body armor, direct combat training and even armored personnel carriers to rebel factions, as it continues to help Saudi Arabia and other nations deliver the weaponry behind the ongoing rebellion.

The EU is set to get in on the action as well, with officials claiming a secret clause was inserted into the renewal of a ban on arms to Syria to allow virtually anything that doesn’t in and of itself kill people, including night-vision goggles and sniper scopes, to be sent as “non-lethal aid” for their “humanitarian” mission."

There is no use negotiating with these Israeli-American war criminals.

Posted by: вот так | Feb 27, 2013 1:02:03 PM | 59

at Daniel 48. E. Warren is - or was - a house flipper. She used her small, narrow, greedy expertise for personal gain to the N’th degree. Should ppl’s personal lives be brought up when they are on the national stage? Depends. But in this case...I don’t hesitate.

Posted by: Noirette | Feb 27, 2013 1:41:13 PM | 60

Hans,

It was - in a word - wretched.

Mrs Obama's appearance at the Oscars will be known as the "jump the shark" moment in the Obama Presidency.

As the mystique fades in stark contrast to the feckless and vapid "leadership" provided by this President, Mrs Obama's turn in the Oscar spotlight will mark the point when the Emperor was revealed to have no clothes - Hollywood style.

Posted by: Cynthia | Feb 27, 2013 2:57:58 PM | 61

It's also "more of the same" in the Israeli-American war on Iran:

U.S. moves to expand economic sanctions on Iran as nuclear talks end

http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2013/02/27/268573.html

"U.S. lawmakers will introduce a bill on Wednesday that expands economic penalties against Iran and is designed to force countries like China to buy less Iranian crude oil, according to a copy of the legislation obtained by Reuters on Tuesday..."

AIPAC had that bill written up and distributed to their quislings probably weeks ago. And "force China"? I don't think so.

US insincerity with Iran aimed at pleasing Israel: Analyst

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/02/27/291129/us-insincere-with-iran-to-please-israel/

“Let us name the elephant in the room here. It is [the former US Secretary of State] Hillary Clinton in Doha, three years ago, admitted and I quote, Iran is no conceivable threat to the United States of America, but could be a threat to our allies. “Our allies” the name is Israel,” Ray McGovern said in an interview on Wednesday.

He went on to say that Israel aims to persuade the United States to do precisely what it has done to Iraq.

“In other words [Israel wants the United States to] devastate it (Iran), make it no longer a viable economy, so it cannot in any way enhance or support the near threat to Israel, which is Hezbollah and Hamas,” McGovern added.

The analyst also noted that the Islamic Republic of Iran has blocked the United States and Israel from completely dominating the Middle East.

McGovern further pointed to the illegal US-engineered sanctions against Iran and said embargos have never worked.

He stated that sanctions are tantamount to an act of war and expressed hope that Americans would "stand up and say this is not right."

Posted by: вот так | Feb 27, 2013 4:42:52 PM | 62

bot tak @ 59

Kerry supporting the terrorists...
The Plan B in action as soon as all the cards are in place
You may be interested in Part 3 of my Plan B series
where we get into the humanitarian aid that is being planned
Along with all NGO's organizing a protest to demand aid
PR extraordinaire being set up

http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.ca/2013/02/syria-plan-b-destabilization-via.html

Regarding Mrs Obama's Oscar presentation for Argo
"you gotta catapult the propaganda'
paraphrasing el Presidente Bush

the western audience is going to manipulated every which way

"All NGOs in the world and activists will be contacted in this framework and a campaign will be initiated to establish a relief corridor for Syria. “Demonstrations will be organized in front of institutions such as the United Nations, the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE), European Union and Organization of Islamic Cooperation to raise awareness.”

Dontcha love it!
Imagine how that is going to play out on the 'boob tube'?
beautifully
there will be children, whether it be actual or pics
there will be children

plans for a shadow government
a bit of a glitch with Russia and supply lines via Afghanistan

Posted by: Penny | Feb 27, 2013 5:58:06 PM | 63

"My prediction is that in the next few weeks we will see the US enter into serious discussions with the Iranians."

@Tovio #26

That would be totally cool, or, as the kids say, "a consummation much to be desired" I'm for it, lest we all end up in the soup (a consume' to be avoided, if you get my drift)
Let's hope it happens.

Posted by: Mooser | Feb 27, 2013 7:02:54 PM | 64

"And the day after, Israel will stage a false flag attack on an American city using a dirty bomb and having the Jewish/zionist lobby and media make sure Iran gets all the blame for it."

Daniel Rich, don't worry, I think you'll find your clairvoyant.

Posted by: Mooser | Feb 27, 2013 7:08:39 PM | 65

Penny - 63

A lot of the so-called Palestinian support orgs and sites have been promoting the Israeli propaganda about Syria and calling it their own. When Hamas moved to Qatar, coinciding with the recent Israeli attacks on Gaza, which targeted Hamas people not on their payroll, it became clear that a significant chunk of Hamas were Israeli quislings. Just like Fatah and the "Palestine Authority". Furthermore, zionists have infiltrated and neutralised many of the external Palestinian support groups to the point which they essentially operate as Israeli support groups now. Take, for instance, the Palestinian BDS National Committee attack on Galloway recently for not kowtowing to some Israeli still wearing diapers:

George Galloway Speaks for BDS as Much as Anyone

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=66042

Larudee shows how, over the years, zionists steadily took that organisation over, and corrupted its purpose into being a support organ for Israeli interests. Galloway has been an effective thorn in Israel's side, so these undercover Israeli quislings, like these particularly duplicitous sayanim here,

http://jewssansfrontieres.blogspot.com/2013/02/george-gallaway-can-take-foot-out-of.html

work tirelessly to discredit Galloway. One sees this sort of double dealing throughout much of the progressive movement, and support for such inexcusable terrorism, such as what the Israeli-Americans are doing against Syria, is a very good touchstone on whether said individual or group is genuine, or some Israeli-American stealth propaganda front. Besides the toxic, excremental sludge that is the bulk of the zionist owned msm media, the Israeli-American PR dregs will be making full use of their embedded quislings operating in the alternative media.

Posted by: вот так | Feb 27, 2013 7:32:44 PM | 66

Mooser - 65

Web stalking is the calling card of the Israeli internet sayanim.

Posted by: вот так | Feb 27, 2013 7:44:17 PM | 67

Terrorists Torture Children in Aleppo to Blame the Army

http://www.sana-syria.com/eng/337/2013/02/27/469698.htm

"Terrorists impersonating the Syrian Arab Army committed acts of torture against a number of children at Baraket al-Hajar area in Masaken Hanano neighborhood in Aleppo.

The terrorists filmed the operation to have the footages broadcast by the channels involved in the shedding of the Syrian blood so that to accuse the Army of committing this crime."

Got to love that sense of morale the Israeli-Americans exhibit. Nazis on steroids.

Posted by: вот так | Feb 27, 2013 7:52:43 PM | 68

This is why the big push now of Israeli-American efforts against Syria. They not only are losing their war, this new form of successful resistance to them has applications in other regions where these fascists are committing murdering rampages, or soon planning to.

A popular anti-guerrilla force

http://www.voltairenet.org/article177614.html

"In guerrilla warfare, the victory belongs to those who have the support of the population. This is why Syria has recently formed popular militias to hold back the Contras supported by the West and the Gulf monarchies. In three months, the result is spectacular: the areas where local militias are already operating have been stabilized.

Ultimately, Syria has decided to adopt a new strategy that has been proven throughout the world when such a situation arose: the creation of popular militias allowing people to defend their villages or their own familiar neighborhoods. This "Army of National Defense", whose members are drawn from the Popular Committees, is of course linked to the Syrian Arab Army, and one must have done one’s military service in order to join.

Mao explained that to triumph, a guerrilla force must evolve "through the population like a fish through water." However, the Free Syrian Army has been unable to do this. As soon as it controls an area, it commits abuses and the local people rebel against it.

This is an event that profoundly changes the geopolitical facts on the ground in the region. On the one hand because this paramilitary force has quickly stabilized villages in areas where it is already established, especially because now the Basij and Hezbollah find themselves with a little brother, with the same training as them, but being mixed and multi-faith, educated in the secular spirit of the Baath movement and not in that of the Islamic Revolution.

While one of the main goals of the war triggered by the West against Syria was to install a government that would break with Hezbollah and Iran, as admitted by Burhan Ghalioun in an interview with the Wall Street Journal, western action has had the opposite effect. Common resistance has led to a tightening of the ranks despite religious and political differences.

This will certainly create impetus for the military wing of Hezbollah to include women and to open up to the many faiths represented in Lebanon."

Posted by: вот так | Feb 27, 2013 8:26:20 PM | 69

@bot tak #66:

I have noticed these conflicting accounts about Syria from Palestinian sources. Some of them are particularly obvious when covering Yarmouk refugee camp, where various Palestinian factions are clearly divided about Syrian government, insurgents and neutrality. Do you have any further info about the spokespeople and connections of some of these "freedom fighter" support groups? For example, palestine-info.co.uk often cites this group: "The action group for the Palestinians in Syria"

Posted by: Rusty Pipes | Feb 27, 2013 9:42:25 PM | 70

@58

Just a simple case of schizophrenia, untreated by the American healthcare system until he pushes someone into the train tracks.

Posted by: guest | Feb 27, 2013 9:55:25 PM | 71

Rusty Pipes - 70

"The action group for the Palestinians in Syria" is obviously an Israeli disinformation front of the same sort as the rest of the "Syrian freedom fighters" type rubbish that gets lambasted here on this site. A quick search on their name shows that. The palestine-info.co.uk is another Israeli disinformation site. Right now, there is an article by one Khalid Amaryeh. An Israeli quisling, if there ever was one. See:

PALESTINIAN JOURNALIST THUG KHALED AMAYREH

http://displacedpalestinians.wordpress.com/2012/08/08/palestinian-journalist-thug-khaled-amayreh/

Amaryeh is what is known as a far rightwing, sectarian religious bigot, beside being an Israeli quisling. He hates Shiites more than Israelis, and describes Shiites in terms that would make the KKK proud. He is on record saying he would rather live under Israeli control, than among Shiites. This sod is the sort of tool Israel uses to divide Muslim people. Amaryeh background is far right, cold war type fascism, of the sort practiced by McCarthy. His parents were also this, it's intergenerational. Amaryeh was also trained in the USA. He is actually a very good example of how cold war type fascism and zionism have merged together now.

With Palestinian support groups, and pundits, there are a couple of obvious things to look for. First, do they promote sectarianism? Second, are they propagandising the Israeli-American war against Syria and/or demonising Iran? Then there are some other less obvious signs. Look at what they say about non-Palestinian issues important to Israel-America, are they supporting these policies in some way, either obviously, or surreptitiously? Does the group or pundit spend a lot of time doing antisemite witch hunts? Do they engage in a lot of attacks on other groups opposed to Israel over petty stuff, or with dishonest tactics - such as making false claims about said groups?

Posted by: вот так | Feb 28, 2013 1:27:14 AM | 72

News from a parallel universe: Iran and the implosion of Syria. It's all Iran's fault...

Posted by: Daniel Rich | Feb 28, 2013 3:00:51 AM | 73

Bot tak:

"A lot of the so-called Palestinian support orgs and sites have been promoting the Israeli propaganda about Syria and calling it their own. When Hamas moved to Qatar, coinciding with the recent Israeli attacks on Gaza, which targeted Hamas people not on their payroll, it became clear that a significant chunk of Hamas were Israeli quislings."


Preaching to the choir here bt.
I made mention way back, here, somewhere that Hamas in Gaza is owned by Israel (obviously not every single individual) but overall
Since Hamas was created by Israel.
Then there is the whole charade of muslim brotherhood in Egypt
As of right now, I am suspecting that Hamas will negotiate the Palestinians right out of Palestine and into the ghettos of Jordan
IMO

There is much on my blog to that effect


Posted by: Penny | Feb 28, 2013 6:46:06 AM | 74

Kerry, Purple Heart 3 times, but the purple heart is like candy, a token gesture for a splinter, it is an shame and not an accolade in the majority of cases, in fact the average person (civilian) would accumulate 30 or more in a given life span, this would cover Walmart as a career function to define the danger.

Kerry, is about to make his allegiances clear at a meeting of the 'Friends of Syria' in Rome. Kerry is expected to announce a increase in what the US is prepared to give rebels; "non-lethal" aid;

So no weapons, but body armor, armored vehicles (the ones that carry weaponry) combat equipment, the ones that assist weaponry, looks like like military aid to me. Kerry says the priority is to "accelerate the prospects of a political solution" – Just don't get the political solution here. The initial reporting was medical Aid toy those supporting the rebels, what the hell does that mean, are babies and children admissible since their cognitive though process is just all about rebellion, freedom and not playing?

I feel Kerry after his beating (Running mate) who was shot down because of his Mil background is now trying to give himself Cojones, but an aged dog cant done Wolf skin, the fashion police can see through that bleet. In many ways' he is a lamb to the slaughter, but without the position he is just Kerry, a has-been, thinking he can be something - What a ass!

Posted by: Kev | Feb 28, 2013 8:33:45 AM | 75

Penny - 74

"As of right now, I am suspecting that Hamas will negotiate the Palestinians right out of Palestine and into the ghettos of Jordan"

Hamas is becoming another Fatah, thanks no doubt to the Israeli influence and corruption of some of the leadership. It's possible they will help the Israeli ethnic cleansing, but a move to Jordan could only be temporary, as "greater" Israel wants that land also.

Posted by: вот так | Feb 28, 2013 10:44:08 AM | 76

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