February 10, 2013
Netanyahoo's Red Line Is Now Iran's Shield
In August 2012 another IAEA report on Iran came out. Then this blog was the first to point out
that, according to that report, Iran had reduced its stock of 20% enriched Uranium by converting some of it into fuel for the Tehran Research Reactor. Other media, when first reporting on that IAEA report, did not mention it. It didn't fit their scare intend.
We can reasonably assume that Iran is doing this decrease on purpose and will in future convert any newly produced UF6 into fuel plates. This will keep its stock of UF6 at a level below what is needed to make a quick run towards a nuclear device.
Reuters is now reporting that Iran is exactly doing that:
Iran appears to have resumed converting small amounts of highly enriched uranium into reactor fuel, diplomats say, a process which if expanded could buy time for negotiations between Washington and Tehran on its disputed nuclear program.
Iran is thereby avoiding the "red-line" Netanyahoo had try to draw. It can do so endlessly while developing its other capabilities. The "red line" has thereby now become a shield under which Iran can do whatever it wants while avoiding the (small) risk of an Israeli attack.
Posted by b on February 10, 2013 at 12:21 PM | Permalink
I think that Irans willingness to avoid an israeli strike is seriously overrated.
While this question per se could be considered a purely academic one hardly worthy a discussion as long as they just keep the UF6 levels low, it also has an ugly side to it, namely, implicating an israeli power rather than honesty and good will at the Iranian side.
Yes, maybe the whole us, israel complex was a factor - amongst others and to a certain, probably minor degree.
Mostly, however, this Iranian move quite simply embodies what Iran has said since years: That their program is of a civil and peaceful nature.
When you need x percent enriched nuclear fuel (for whatever purpose) you, well, have to enrich it. Also, for purely technical reasons, when you need 20% enriched material as well as say, 5% enriched material, you typically do not build up 2 different enrichment processes and lines but rather one, where you (somewhat simplified) take out the lower level product and let the higher level product continue.
The political disadvantage is, of course, that anyone can turn that against you and alledge that the whole capacity is for 20% and probably even higher (when, in fact, only a small fraction ever gets fully enriched to 20% while the major part is taken out at 5%).
There are other technical factors too that got conveniently ignored. An important one is that highly enriched/enrichable weaponizable uranium is processed in a rather different form from an early stage on. The significant step the Iranian take now is exactly that; taking out a major portion of their (low) enriched product actually means to convert that material into a form that is not reasonably enrichable to weaponized grade anymore.
Do they do that for political "good will demonstration" or simply for practical reasons? Quite probably for the latter one and at the same time gaining free positive political side effects too.
After all we shouldn't forget that the major part of this whole nuclear bruhaha was purely a PR creation painting reality on the ground way darker and such creating a non existent evil deamon impression. What is happening right now is for the least part a positive Iranian step and for the major part a scaling down and back the western image to be closer to reality.
And yes, this also means (in my eyes) that behinde the current "de-escalation" is a western force and not an Iranian one (or at least just a friedly slightly supporting Iranian one).
All in all my best guess is that this is not the Iranians "finally showing a little good will" (or, as assumed by some, the political smartness to stay within certain limits) but rather a - not yet fully undisclosed and understood - less zionist defined (not to say "remote controlled") line in american politics that just so happens to coincide with zionista clintons (temporary?) exit as well as with an obama saying njet and cutting off clinton/zion/military war provocation and escalation games in Syria and Iran.
If we see anyone paying a price here it's hardly the Iranians but rather bibi "mass murder inc" netanyahu who has pissed off to many and then the wrong americans by making them too visible as marionettes if zion.
(I wrote something linked to this in the gaher 313 thread. Too late though and probably overlooked by most. Dumb me. Apologies)
Looking forward to see the different perspectives here analyzed and critically put under your scrutiny ...
Posted by: Mr. Pragma | Feb 10, 2013 2:11:47 PM | 1
Sanctions on Iran Leave 11,000 French Jobless
"After losses for French automaker Peugeot-Citroen, workers have gone on strike for 2 weeks, protesting layoffs, in Paris suburb of Aulnay-Sous-Bois.
"France's largest automaker, struggling to compete in Europe's stagnant car market, is cutting 8,000 jobs and closing the Aulnay-sous-Bois factory," Euronews stated.
The decision has been taken after the French company has stopped export of automobile spare parts to Iran under pressure from US sanctions, MNA.
Peugeot workers' union representative in France cited halting cooperation with Iran as a major factor bringing loss for the French company.
"Analysts forget that Peugeot has decided to ignore Iran's great car market for Peugeot products. Peugeot has been selling 450,000 cars annually to Iran, but it avoided Iranian market for political motives," Jean-Pierre Mercier said.
In the first 6 month of 2012, Peugeot has cut selling of 240,000 cars compared to that in the same time in 2011. Of 750,000 job opportunities lost in recent 10 years in French industry sector, 100,000 were for automaking sector.
According to Peugeot, 10 per cent of the company's products in world markets related to its contracts with Iran's Iran Khodro industries...."
Being a colony of Israel-America has such wonderful benefits for the French people. Yes?
Posted by: вот так | Feb 10, 2013 2:47:09 PM | 2
US officials confess to targeting Iran’s civilian population
“It would be a defense lawyer’s worst nightmare wouldn’t it?
I mean to have one’s clients, in this case the Vice-President of the
United States and the outgoing Secretary of state confess so publicly
to serial international crimes against a civilian population?”
The confessions and the crimes, she correctly enumerated to her audience,
were those admitted to by US Vice-President Joe Biden and outgoing
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton this past week.
Both of the US officials, in discussing US relations with the Islamic
Republic, openly admitted that the US-led sanctions against Iran (and Syria)
are politically motivated and constitute a “soft-war” against the nearly 80
million people of Iran (23 million people in Syria) in order to achieve regime
Just like that previous U.S. official who thought killing 500,000 Iraqi children was "worth it" to weaken Iraq. These people really are no different than the nazi war criminals sentenced to hang in Nuremberg after WW2.
Posted by: вот так | Feb 10, 2013 3:42:17 PM | 3
"These people really are no different than the nazi war criminals sentenced to hang in Nuremberg after WW2"
This has been so for many years now. And in Obama's tenure, it was clear from the moment he uttered the "looking forward not backwords" that "change" was was just a buzzword with which he could slither into the Oval Office for a chance to shit on any spots on the carpet that weren't already soiled by Bush's best efforts.
And now these criminals in DC are debating the legality of extrajudicial assasinations of American citizens, as if there is some sort of issue to actually debate? Or the murder of humans abroad just on the merit of accusation? Obama already demonstrated that these pieces of shit in DC believe themselves above the law when he uttered the words cited in the paragraph above. And apparently, it is a reality as well as a belief.
Our politicians, (and so our nation), have become loathed worldwide. It is only a matter of time before we, the citizens, pay the ultimate price for our "leaders" satanic elitism and megalomaniacal global machinations. Daily, I become further ashamed of what the United States has become under the management of these despicable criminals. By the time they are done they will have far surpassed the crimes and statistics we attribute to Adolph Hitler. And how will history judge us, the citizens, who stood idly by munching Ben and Jerrys while making scum like Limbaugh and Maddow obscenely wealthy in return for marketing hatred and division???
We deserve whats coming. We earned it.
Posted by: PissedOffAmerican | Feb 10, 2013 5:07:28 PM | 4
@ PissedOffAmerican [#4],
Both Rotham and Obomber have studied law, making the fact that they both wipe their asses with it [on a permanent basis] not funny at all. When you or I would set foot on the European continent, 50 or 60 years ago, we'd be greeted as heroes. We'd be invited into homes and whine would be served. Nowadays, doors slam in our faces and empty bottles are hurled at us. I know some guys down here who prefer to act like Canadians. It's all aboot perspective, eh?
The bull Net-an-yahoo sees Ross/Roth everywhere he looks. His claim that 'the Iranians will have a bomb say, tomorrow...' still stands firm after 21 years, but who better knows about about those shenanigans than a former smuggler himself?
Posted by: Daniel Rich | Feb 10, 2013 6:58:12 PM | 5
oops: make that 'wine' and I'll do the whining :o)
Posted by: Daniel Rich | Feb 10, 2013 7:02:26 PM | 6
Seems energy is very much on the cards, I see now the strong link between Nuclear power and its Entities and Oil. In this case I would like to open comments on Mali and the French take, as this seems linked to Iran and limiting it's energy potential via an alliance. Before that, a quick note, the US is driving the UNSC to lift the Arms embargo on Somalia -Strange!
France is Governed by 'cost' of the intervention, it's involvement is quite complex and in part France is the root cause of the issues in Mali i.e. weapon proliferation and rebels ,the blow-back from Libya and the French support, likewise the Algerian Hostage situation was arms from Libya and we still don't know where 1000's of SAM's are!.
Recently Qatar has a vested interest in the outcome of the north Mali crisis, according to various reports that have been picked up by French MPs, amid suspicion that Doha may be siding with the rebels to extend its regional influence. French military intelligence saying: “The secular Tuareg separatists (MNLA), Al Qaeda-linked Ansar Dine and Movement for Unity and Jihad in West Africa (MUJAO) have all received cash from Doha.”
Yet we need to see the other snaps of a photo album, one that is shared geopolitics and the US AFRICOM Operation Underway in Mali. “Keeping China out of Africa”. Including the US push into the Asian Pacific, trade routes are everything.
There is a much greater prize - Not only new recent finds of Oil in Northern Mali, so expect to see the classic South North divided aided by the UNSC, but just outside is Algeria; as here isn't much to win in that Mali short term although the oil and Uranium is tempting, but not yet developed, the long term. Next door though there is fully developed gas and oil fields. Recall ‘the phrase of Charles de Gaulle who declared that ‘France has no friends, she has only interests.’
The kicker, France paid (From the US side) 17 million USD to release a group of hostages in Mali who worked for French nuclear company Areva, mainly known for nuclear power; it also has interests in other energy projects. Areva suspended building work at several sites in France, Africa and the United States, one day after forecasting a €1.6 billion ($2.1 billion) loss, after Japan's Fukushima nuclear disaster hit the value of its uranium mining assets. Roll back the clock, On 25 July 2007, the CEO of Areva-Niger, Dominique Pin, was expelled from Niger (although he was in Paris at the time) on charges of supporting the Tuareg Rebellion, In June 2007, Areva announced plans to acquire the African uranium mining company UraMin (Scandel) for a final price of about 2 billion USD. This move further beefs up Areva's nuclear business, and Areva plans to increase production to 9 million kilograms of yellowcake by 2012. So to the French Areva is well worth a war, it's connected!
Posted by: Kev | Feb 10, 2013 8:11:59 PM | 7
@ Kev [#7],
It looks like the US is trying to throw as much hurdles onto the path of China's rise to the top, as is humanly possible. Destabilizing countries that produce oil or have other assets that are in heavy Chinese demand would be one way to ensure prices rise, while, in the mean time, unca Sammy starts drilling and fragging anything it can lay its greedy hands on in an attempt to lower its own energy dependency with regard to imports [imho]. In that the western countries unite [militarily].
Posted by: Daniel Rich | Feb 10, 2013 9:24:47 PM | 8
US dishonest in Iran talks offer : Analyst
“Actions speak louder than words. This is just public relations imagery by the American side. They are totally dishonest,” Paul Sheldon Foote said in a Press TV interview.
On February 2, US Vice President Joe Biden said his country was ready to hold direct talks with Iran over its nuclear energy program.
Foote, professor at California State University, questioned Biden’s offer as Washington continues to increase sanctions against Tehran.
“We should end all sanctions immediately; they are costing the lives of Iranians who fly on Boeing jets because they cannot get parts; they are costing [the lives of Iranians] because of [the difficulty to purchase] medicine,” he said.
Recent data released by the US Department of Commerce show that exports of pharmaceutical products to Iran have decreased by half despite Washington’s claims that ‘punitive measures’ have no humanitarian consequences.
Sanctions and human rights lawyers argue that imposing bans against major Iranian banks has made conducting financial transactions to buy pharmaceutical products extremely difficult.
Iran has repeatedly protested that the US-engineered sanctions against Tehran are effectively hindering the import of medicine to the country, thereby jeopardizing the lives of millions of patients suffering from special diseases such as thalassemia, hemophilia, hepatitis, multiple sclerosis, diabetes, and many others."
Posted by: вот так | Feb 10, 2013 11:26:57 PM | 9
POA @ 4: "We deserve whats coming. We earned it." If Karma is a reality, maybe. We'll see.
Also, it's refreshing to hear our(U.S.)eh, shortcomings, described in such colorful language:o). This "good cop, bad cop" Kabuki performed daily, and consumed so readily, by the bulk of our society, deserves to be described bluntly.
Begs the question, were we ever the country taught to us in school? Because, if we were, we're sure as hell not now.
Posted by: ben | Feb 11, 2013 2:02:22 AM | 10
Americans are thinking that they will escape cycle of history ....
Posted by: End | Feb 11, 2013 2:28:58 AM | 11
b, you post this latest piece as if Iranians give a sh*t about what Israel or more to the point,bibi thinks.In Iran's calculations, Israel is only an extension of US policy in the region and they wouldn't dare make any stupid move without the US taking the lead. They're good at attacking defenseless Palestinians.
As time pass by, it's become clear the US cannot realistically attack Iran militarily and expect to "win"(whatever that means). Iraq and Afghanistan is a clear example of what inflated military/political hubris of the US look like.
Nothingyahoo and his likudnik idiots will bark until they turn blue in the face, it won't change anything in Iran's nuclear position. In fact, the nuclear program's increased both in quantity and quality since Bibi started his anti-Iran nuclear boogieman campaign.
The next nuclear kabuki talks will be in Kazakhstan(much to the disappointment of Turkey)..I don't have a crystal ball but I'm betting the results won't be any different from the previous ones. The US is not prepared to lift sanctions and recognize Iran's right to peaceful nuclear program. This sticking point will remain until Iran detonates her first nuclear device - if they haven't one already.
Posted by: Zico | Feb 11, 2013 8:58:40 AM | 13
Did I mention the US is now in talks with the TALIBAN in QATAR???
So much for the war on terra..I feel sorry for the poor American whose future is being sucked dry so the MIC will have their endless wars to bring "goodness" to mankind.
Posted by: Zico | Feb 11, 2013 9:00:32 AM | 14
Barack Obama is planning his first trip to Israel as US president :)
Posted by: Obomber | Feb 11, 2013 11:31:09 AM | 15
JJ @ 12 -- Now the huge NYTimes story accusing China of hacking it, along with other major newspapers, makes sense.
China is now being used as a "scare" word, almost as iraq, Libya, Syira, Iran are used. And Iran has been accused of hacking as well.
All of which is to persuade the populace that they must give up their privacy rights on the internet, such as they are, for their own safety and protection.
Posted by: jawbone | Feb 11, 2013 11:38:39 AM | 16
I think you're overdoing it somewhat.
Yes, Iran does not and must not care too much what the israeli mass murders bark.
But no, there will not be a nuclear warhead anytime soon. Because, quite simply, the Iranians are self determined and by a long and high culture.
*If* they ever wanted nuclear weapons they would have gotten them years ago. After all, there were enough nuclear weapons available on grey markets in Ex-Sowjet states ...
Concernig the upcoming meeting in Astana I'm not so sure. Yes, maye it will be just a meaningless repetition. But I see a chance for some progress.
Not progress as in "all problems solved, happiness flow, flow" but as in "softening the western position and mabe start to listen to each other".
After all the usa is getting weaker and weaker, their problems at home get tougher and tougher and the price for attacking Iran - and having no chance to win that war - gets higher and higher.
The us simply doesn't have the money to fight on two major fronts, Iran/Syria and China. Furthermore their attempts to stay afloat as superpower militarily have lousily and humiliatingly failed. If they want to fight China they will have to do that non-militarily and they will have to bring their economy in infra structure in order.
Going against Iran would basically be a guarantee to loose against China and to be loosing on both fronts.
Posted by: Mr. Pragma | Feb 11, 2013 2:35:27 PM | 17
"Begs the question, were we ever the country taught to us in school?"
Well, that depends on whether you ask a Rockefeller, or an Apache indian.
Posted by: PissedOffAmerican | Feb 11, 2013 6:52:38 PM | 19
ot but classic. This is a spot on SNL skit that did not make the cut for the show (you can bet there was pressure not to air) about the I lobby in our congress and the pressure
This is a must watch. Says it all. But did not make the cut. Lorne Micheals has kept any criticism of Israel of the I lobby off his show for decades. Must be trying to jump on the better late than never crowd bandwagon. Those who have stayed silent about the violence and crimes committed against the Palestinians for decades have been complicit. Many doing their best to jump on the bandwagon and get on the right side of history before they are called out for their complicity
SNL on Hagel: ‘It is vital to Israel’s security for you to go on national television and perform oral sex on a donkey… Would you do THAT for Israel?’
Posted by: Kathleen | Feb 11, 2013 7:31:38 PM | 20
Funny how one can be accused of hacking but those accusing admit to sending a virus that hacks systems and renders them in-op, disabled or extracts data - It's Calling the kettle black ( Can one say 'black' kettle today?) and trying to scrub it clean? Never understood Internationale Law, or Rule of Law for that matter, it all seems so bogus, we have essentially Murphy's Law, Not to be confused with Murphy's Law - in that; It is better for civilization to be going down the drain than to be coming up it?
Posted by: Kev | Feb 11, 2013 11:51:11 PM | 21
I find the Leverett’s views [blog: http://goingtotehran.com/ ] some of the best on Iran, including the “nuclear issue”. Check it out.
Most recent [2-11-13] and VERY good: “Iran’s Insistence That the U.S. Not “Point a Gun” at it is a Diplomatic Opening Not a Rejection http://bit.ly/157vmXU and
“The Real Obstacles to Successful Nuclear Diplomacy with Iran Lie in Washington, Not Tehran” Posted on December 23rd, 2012, OPED at Reuters
“The U.S. needs a completely different approach to Iran
By Flynt and Hillary Leverett JANUARY 31, 2013 http://reut.rs/XM9iL5
Posted by: erichwwk | Feb 12, 2013 3:42:55 PM | 23
Argentina slams Israel over interference
"...Last month, Argentina's President Cristina Kirchner announced an agreement with Iran to create an independent “truth commission” to investigate the bombing of the Israeli-Argentine Mutual Association (AMIA), and said it would clear the way for Iranian suspects to be questioned by an Argentine judge.
The move was blasted by Israel and members of Argentina's 300,000-strong Jewish community, the largest in Latin America.
“Israel has no right to ask for explanations. We are a sovereign state,” Argentinean Foreign Minister Hector Timerman said on the first day of testimony about the “truth commission” to his country's congress.
He added that cooperation with Iran would “bring them closer to the truth.” and, in an apparent snide reference to Israel's own record, said that Argentina was not in the habit of carrying out extrajudicial punishment.
“Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman told me that we cannot sign an agreement with Iran. So maybe he wants us to kidnap the suspects or put a bomb below the car of one of them.”..."
Now that is how one responds to the Jewish/Israeli mafia.
Posted by: вот так | Feb 14, 2013 4:13:34 PM | 24