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December 05, 2012

The Jihadist Chemical Weapon Capability Demonstration Video

A video showing the killing of two rabbits by some gas was just posted on Youtube. It may show the preparation of a false flag operation that would be intended to draw the U.S. into the war on Syria.

Colonel Pat Lang just asked: Has Obama decided on war in Syria?

Today's Washington Post [...] contains "above the line" a feature story that continues the propaganda campaign in the media apparently designed to create public belief in the imminent collapse of the Syrian government and/or the imminent employment of Sarin or some other noxious substance by the Syrian government.
He says that:
  • the propaganda campaign is based solely on insurgent accounts
  • Obama and Clinton have threatened to intervene should chemical weapons be used by the Syrian government
  • the U.S. seems ready to recognize an external Syrian government
  • the U.S. has a policy of regime change in Syria.

Lang concludes:

It appears that the Obama Administration has taken upon itself the right to determine the outcome of the civil war in Syria. The ongoing and emerging disaster in Egypt is evidently not a deterrent to "king making" in Syria.

With that in mind let lets take a look at this video which was posted some two hours ago on Youtube. (There is an alternative slightly lower quality copy which was uploaded to a different account one hour earlier than at the first link.) The video shows the preparation of some chemicals and their use in killing two rabbits. The background music in the video seems to some repetitive Jihadi chorus.

The video starts by showing quite large amounts of industrial size packages of various chemicals like Potassium Permanganate, Potassium Nitrate, Potassium Chlorate, Sodium Nitrite, Acetone and others. According to the labels most of the stuff is sourced from the Turkish company Tekkim.

Some basic chemical lab apparatus is shown and a masked man is preparing some stuff in a glass heated by a gas flame.

More chemicals, Hydrochloride Acid is one of them, with several dozen bottles of each kind are shown. A poster on wall, mostly in Arabic, also says "Danger" and "Wind Isber Chemical Inscription".

Two rabbits in a large glass cage are shown. There is a glass with some chemical in the cage. The masked man adds some fluid and closes the top of the cage. A reaction appears to create some white and heavy gas. After two minutes and some convulsions the rabbits die.

This could be some Jihadis preparing chemical weapons for use against Assad supporters. This could be an attempt by the Syrian government to be able to blame Jihadis when it resorts to use chemical weapons.

Use of chemical weapons against the Jihadis by the Syrian government would be ineffective and very dangerous. I do not believe that the government would do this.

As Obama and Clinton have threatened to attack Syria should chemical weapons be used there it might well be possible that the terrorists fighting the Syrian government are preparing for a "false flag" use of chemical weapons to draw the U.S. into their fight.

But if that is the case why prepare and publish a video about that capability?

(Could those here who can read and understand Arabic please note in the comments what is said and what is written on that wall poster. Thanks.)

Posted by b on December 5, 2012 at 12:27 PM | Permalink

Comments

ok this might sound like it's way out there but "Wind Isber Chemical Inscription" is most likely a translation gone bad. in turkey especially they just run everything thru google translator and the outcome is usually gibberish like that.

i'm not saying that's the case, just the first thing that came into my mind.

Posted by: bb | Dec 5, 2012 1:37:51 PM | 1

I know arabic but not very familiar with islamists and jihadis

The video stars with the narrator saying:

"he saw his mother and little brother being killed in front of his eyes and they told him do nothing.
he saw his house being destroyed on his head and they told him do not say anything.
he saw his father being brought to death and told him die in your rage.
so the cub revolted and said it is the time of action not words."

then a background a song

"let me go i love to fight, give me weapons and ammunitions to fight, saladin
i asked you to join the fight and destroy their fortification. O saladin we are coming back.The mother screams and the women are scared and the house was destroyed by rockets and the Sheikh in Al Aqsa telling us to hold on and people are mute.
.....in our jihad we will destroy the rocks and with our unstoppable will we will destroy the tyrant and the apostates"

Man appears kills the rabbits with the chemicals and says

"takbeer, allah is great. This is what will happen to you, nusairies(=alawi) the enemies of God. It didn't take more than a minute and they died, this is exactly what will happen to you nussaries, enemies of God. This is what we will do to you with chemical and biological weapons. do you believe me?"
then he addresses a group, i can't hear who it is, saying that we will not hit you yet we will negotiate but this is what will happen to people who support the nussairies and Bashar Assad. The he introduces his group as the "... chemical brigade" i could understand the first part.
then " O enemies of God this is only a small sample of we can do. Do you believe us now? it only took a minute to kill them"

as for the poster on the wall. My best guess is some koranic saying about cockroaches. But again i am no expert and i could not read it clearly.


Posted by: erraticideas | Dec 5, 2012 1:44:11 PM | 2

@erraticideas - Thanks very much

Posted by: b | Dec 5, 2012 2:00:37 PM | 3

Another Houla? We'll know soon enough I guess. Sickening, and wholly endorsed by NATO/UN. Still they say Assad slit all of those throats in Houla when all evidence and circumstance points elsewhere.

And I doubt this is an Assad psy-op. Unless it's denounced by the opposition we'll know for sure it's not. And as careless as the opposition has been on Youtube(obvious fakery etc) this only seems like more of the same. And NO ONE in Washington cares anymore about how tight their message is. They've wholly outsourced their regime change propaganda to CNN and Youtube jihadis. Can you say HUBRIS?

Thanks to b for picking this up.

Posted by: L Bean | Dec 5, 2012 2:25:32 PM | 4

Two significant events are coming up.

1. The 4th ministerial meeting of the Group of Friends of the Syrian people (70 nations) is scheduled for Marrakech, Morocco on December 12. The Syrian coalition of "the forces of the revolution and the opposition" could garner more recognition at the meeting. The United States is moving toward recognizing the new Doha-created Syrian opposition -- National Coalition of Syrian Revolutionary and Opposition Forces -- as the legitimate representative of the Syrian people as soon as it fully develops its political structure, American officials have said. UK, France, Turkey and the Gulf Cooperation Council have already recognized the group as the "as the sole legitimate representative of the Syrian people."

2. In an apparent bid to isolate Islamist extremists and bolster a new Western-backed Syrian opposition alliance, the United States is moving to declare one of the most effective Syrian rebel groups -- Jabhat al Nusra -- a foreign terrorist organization because of its alleged ties to al Qaida. The al Qaeda-linked Al Nusrah Front for the People of the Levant has claimed credit for yet another suicide attack in Syria. The suicide attack is the 50th in Syria in the past 12 months; 41 of them have been claimed by the Al Nusrah Front. Jabhat al-Nusra now has somewhere between 6,000 and 10,000 fighters, according to one observer. Jabhat al Nusra, which U.S. officials believe has links to al Qaida, has become essential to the frontline operations of the rebels fighting to topple Syria. Bill Roggio, Oct 19: The Al Nusrah Front for the People of the Levant, an al Qaeda-linked jihadist group that is fighting Bashir al Assad's regime in Syria, commanded a Free Syrian Army unit and "Chechen emigrants" during last week's assault on a Syrian air defense and Scud missile base in Aleppo. The base was overrun by Al Nusrah and its allies.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Dec 5, 2012 2:31:58 PM | 5

The Poster on the Wall basically states (from top to bottom):

The Furious Wind Chemical Battalion (Name of the battalion/brigade group).

WIND ISBER CHEMICAL INSCRIPTION (I think they are trying to translate the Batallion's name in English, the word "inscription: as to emphasize the group's message).

The bottom line, in white, is basically a verse from the Quran. It is from Sura Al-Haaqqa #69, Verse 6,7 and 8, but the first seven words of verse 7 are missing.

Usually, in my opinion, it is totally unacceptable in Islam to post missing verses from a Sura in the Quran to make a certain statement. So this is kind of odd.

Posted by: A Riyal | Dec 5, 2012 2:48:22 PM | 6

#6 Or "Inscription" is a mistranslation of a word meant to do with "conscription"? As opposed to emphasis. "Inscription"="Battalion" iow.

Posted by: L Bean | Dec 5, 2012 2:56:05 PM | 7

Well if the intention is to make the 'rebels' look bad it is very successful.

Posted by: dh | Dec 5, 2012 3:03:22 PM | 8

The "policy of regime change in Syria" seems to be totally predicated on the desire to break Syria away from Iran, and thus weaken the Islamic Republic and its ally Hezbollah. But first, there's no guarantee that any new Syria government would not be allied with Iran (example: Iraq, admittedly Shia). And even if it weren't so allied, would that be a problem for Iran, a powerful nation of 75 million people? Would Iran's support for Hezbollah be significantly endangered? No, and no.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Dec 5, 2012 3:31:08 PM | 9

'Group of Friends of the Syrian people (70 nations)'

70 nations(ie governing political parties) aiding islamic terrorism, who in the bush years would have been arresting muslisms as probable terrorists.

Posted by: brian | Dec 5, 2012 3:38:26 PM | 10

"Inscription" is a mistranslation of katiba, 'battalion'. "Inscription" should be kitaba.

Posted by: alexno | Dec 5, 2012 4:06:53 PM | 11

US labeling Jabhat al-Nusra as a terrorist group is an odd thing to me. The US has been allies with Al-Qaeda in Syria for some time.

I did take notice of the Pentagon saying that there is no evidence of Syrian moves regarding chemical weapons. This contradicts statements from Obama and Clinton.

Posted by: revenire | Dec 5, 2012 4:13:35 PM | 12

The Arabic text on the poster is from Chapter 69 of Quran, verses 6-8.
See http://quran.com/69 for some translation. (I'm not sure this is the best translation, though.)

Posted by: hossein | Dec 5, 2012 4:18:52 PM | 13

At any rate the title of the page is: "Threat of using chemical [weapons] by al-Qa'ida in Syria". The person who put up the video obviously wanted to say it was al-Qa'ida wot done it. Saying it was al-Qa'ida seems unspecific, like an enemy did it, who didn't distinguish well.

Posted by: alexno | Dec 5, 2012 4:22:03 PM | 14

Okay, so the US State Department adds Jabhat al-Nusra to its list of foreign terrorist groups. And then al-Nusra, the dominant anti-Syria force, just slinks away? Oh my god, they called us terrorists, we'd better give it up. Those dedicated jihadists, many of whom the US in effect created in Iraq, would just slink away? Of course not. Then what will the US State Department do. What can it do.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Dec 5, 2012 5:06:44 PM | 15

It's also amusing to learn how Israel, NATO and the US have 'contingency plans' in place to 'neutralize' said chemical weapons in Syria. Given Iraq's WMD 'success story' the West has every right to beat its chest black and blue and continue down the path of its self-righteous path of crippled idiocy toward the abyss of their 'contemporary' forms of democracy [aka dealing with the 'little toilet' aka potty training Al Qaeda on “Ma Qa’adia”], better known as 'free markets' so your local producers may 'flee our markets.'. The 'your enemy is never too heinous to be my friend' ploy ` @ work.

Posted by: Daniel Rich | Dec 5, 2012 5:57:24 PM | 16

@ A Riyal #6

Q: Usually, in my opinion, it is totally unacceptable in Islam to post missing verses from a Sura in the Quran to make a certain statement. So this is kind of odd.

R: A dead give away of sloppy PSYOP. It's like watching Usama bin Laden watch videos in Pakistan. Yeah, let's kill the mastermind of 9/11, cuz we don't want to know how he pulled that off. Oh, it feels so damned good to have this western mindset..., yeah..., real good... Please excuse me, I'll have to muhouth-vuhomit fuhor ahu wuhile nuhow...

Posted by: Daniel Rich | Dec 5, 2012 6:08:54 PM | 17

@ Don Bacon #15,

Q: Those dedicated jihadists, many of whom the US in effect created in Iraq, would just slink away? Of course not. Then what will the US State Department do. What can it do.

R: In other words, "Welcome to the MIC's Perpetuum Mobile."

Posted by: Daniel Rich | Dec 5, 2012 7:52:31 PM | 18

Bacon--yes, the terrorist group will just slink away...and resurrect itself as a new group...that will be eligible for US aid. There was an article in Al-Akhbar a few months ago, kind of joking about how Syrian groups emerge and disappear in rapid succession. Its point was that the regime's major advantage lies in the fact that it is the only group that stayed intact for any length of time.

Posted by: JohnH | Dec 5, 2012 8:19:58 PM | 19

The video could serve various interests".


WASHINGTON — In an apparent bid to isolate Islamist extremists and bolster a new Western-backed Syrian opposition alliance, the United States is moving to declare one of the most effective Syrian rebel groups a foreign terrorist organization because of its alleged ties to al Qaida.

...

It also appears that the Obama administration is counting on the European Union to follow suit, thereby encouraging other governments to cut off funding and other support for the group and to isolate it politically.

Nusra members in Syria have told McClatchy that most of their funding comes from individuals in Saudi Arabia.


...

Aaron Zelin, an analyst who follows Nusra for his research on militants at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, said the administration’s plans to designate the group a foreign terrorist organization were unusual because such determinations typically came only after a threat or attempt to strike U.S. interests.

Zelin, who reads and compiles Nusra’s communiques, said that while the group hadn’t made any specific threats against the United States, it had warned, “Don’t try to meddle in Syria or else you’ll pay the price.”

“This is an interesting case because it’s very proactive on the part of the administration,” said Zelin, who blogs about Nusra and other militant groups at Jihadology.net. “At this juncture, Nusra’s only goal is to take out the Assad regime, but once the regime is gone, I’d imagine that parts of the group would try to set up a base there.”

Posted by: somebody | Dec 5, 2012 8:49:21 PM | 20

@: JohnH 19
So al-Nusrah, changing names like an Iranian bank, will become . . .al-Harsun . . . and get the big bucks..
As Brzezinski said: "What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?"

Posted by: Don Bacon | Dec 5, 2012 9:12:07 PM | 21

Very scary.

USAToday
9:21PM EST December 5. 2012 - NBC News reports that Syria's military has loaded nerve-gas chemicals into bombs and is awaiting final orders from President Bashar Assad.

U.S. officials confirmed Wednesday to NBC that bombs had been filled with precursors for deadly sarin but that they had yet been loaded onto planes. On Tuesday, officials said there was no evidence the process had begun.

Fox News cites a senior U.S. official as saying the bombs must be used within 60 days or the chemical expires and must be destroyed.


Perhaps they'll gas al-Nusrah and make us all happy?

Posted by: Don Bacon | Dec 5, 2012 9:55:10 PM | 22

looks like there are problems

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration secretly gave its blessing to arms shipments to Libyan rebels from Qatar last year, but American officials later grew alarmed as evidence grew that Qatar was turning some of the weapons over to Islamic militants, according to United States officials and foreign diplomats.

No evidence has emerged linking the weapons provided by the Qataris during the uprising against Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi to the attack that killed four Americans at the United States diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya, in September.

But in the months before, the Obama administration clearly was worried about the consequences of its hidden hand in helping arm Libyan militants, concerns that have not previously been reported. The weapons and money from Qatar strengthened militant groups in Libya, allowing them to become a destabilizing force since the fall of the Qaddafi government.

Posted by: somebody | Dec 5, 2012 9:57:34 PM | 23

And then some Qatari-supported Libyans went to Syria. from the archives-

Al Tawheed brigade (FSA)
- fighting in the Al-Bab area northeast of Aleppo - a relatively new structure in Aleppo Province that has unified several groups and fights under the banner of the Free Syrian Army. Following the Libyan Islamist "Tripoli Corps" model, the Syrian Moslem Brotherhood set up a new Qatari - backed army, the Tawhid Corps. The Tawhid corps recently came to light thanks to aljazeera, the Qatar based Arab TV network. Abdul Qader al-Saleh, the leader of the Tawhid Corps became an instant star after al-Jazeera hosted him for an interview. In the past few weeks, the Tawhid Brigade uploaded hundreds of videos on its operations, mostly in Aleppo and Idlib, both in Northern Syria. Al-Saleh claims that they are the principal fighters on the Aleppo front, but reality shows otherwise.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Dec 5, 2012 10:19:06 PM | 24

The Syrian Foreign Ministry announced in July that it would deploy chemical weapons only against foreign intervention, never against its own citizens.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/21/world/middleeast/obama-threatens-force-against-syria.html

Posted by: Calig | Dec 5, 2012 11:32:51 PM | 25

Latest from Penny:

http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.com/

Posted by: ben | Dec 5, 2012 11:55:22 PM | 26

Use of chemical weapons against the Jihadis by the Syrian government would be ineffective and very dangerous. I do not believe that the government would do this.

First, you are conceding too much to the Asad regime. It doesn't use weapons which only hit jihadis. It uses weapons which hit entire neighborhoods.

Second, Saddam Hussein used chemical weapons on entire areas which he wanted to deny to the Iranian enemy. Why is his cousin in Baath fascism going to be any different?

Posted by: Evan | Dec 6, 2012 1:12:03 AM | 27

"U.S. officials, who were not authorized to discuss the issue..." should STFU already.

Posted by: Daniel Rich | Dec 6, 2012 1:28:26 AM | 28

@Evan. Don't ya think USA, Israel, and the dark forces lining up the next massacre are better fits for the epithet "fascist". Of course you don't !

Posted by: DM | Dec 6, 2012 2:01:44 AM | 29

It's clear that Evan @ #27 is part of the "Anti-Anti-War" left

"The anti-anti-war left does not come out openly in favor of Western military interventions and even criticizes them at times (but usually only for their tactics or alleged motivations – the West is supporting a just cause, but clumsily and for oil or for geo-strategic reasons).

But most of its energy is spent issuing “warnings” against the supposed dangerous drift of that part of the left that remains firmly opposed to such interventions.

It calls upon us to show solidarity with the “victims” against “dictators who kill their own people”, and not to give in to knee-jerk anti-imperialism, anti-Americanism, or anti-Zionism, and above all not to end up on the same side as the far right.

After the Kosovo Albanians in 1999, we have been told that “we” must protect Afghan women, Iraqi Kurds and more recently the people of Libya and of Syria."

Posted by: ONS | Dec 6, 2012 4:11:12 AM | 30

Watching the lamestream news channels in the USA over the past 48 hours has me concerned that US intervention in Syria is on the way.

I haven't seen the war drums beat like this since the Libya intervention. If the chemical weapons hype continues through this weekend, I'm sure something big will happen.

As far as Nusra front: that is a problem. Will these terrorists rule Syria? I hope they just go to Jordan or even better Saudi Arabia to continue on their path of destruction.

Posted by: HIlmi Hakim | Dec 6, 2012 9:06:49 AM | 31

@Evan -
First - chemical weapons are ineffective and especially in cities dangerous to the own troops.
Second - Saddam did not use them for area denial, but for attacking the Iranian frontline.

Posted by: b | Dec 6, 2012 9:55:22 AM | 32

@evan, was impressed by your resume, who barely escaped high school. Which made your argument that Assad and Saddam, as two bad baathists, could be expected to act alike, all the more amazing. Is that true for Lutherans, Buddhists?

Posted by: ruralito | Dec 6, 2012 10:54:54 AM | 33

Thanks for linking over to my blog Ben

Has Obama decided to wage war on Syria?

Let's first be clear that Obama made that decision some time ago and has been waging a covert war of destabilization since March 2011 and likely longer

More recently
there was an article in Australian media I had it up in yesterday's post
Here

A no fly zone and ground troops
75,000 in the region presently

excerpt

" If a political decision is made to intervene, a limited no-fly zone could be imposed to stop the Syrian Air Force dropping bombs with chemical warheads.

Special operations forces would be deployed, backed by a substantial number of support troops, up to 75,000, to seize or safeguard the Syrian regime's chemical weapons facilities.

"We have (US) special operations forces at the right posture, they don't have to be sent," a US official said, suggesting those troops are already in the region.

The preferred method of armed intervention would be for a "multinational coalition"

that means no UN approval

In today's post, we suddenly have news of a impromptu meeting between Hillary and Lavrov allegedly arranged at the behest of Brahamini

Here

One of my savvy commenters caught news out of China
that Russia had suggested placing Iskander missiles to counter Patriots

Was this true?
Was it enough to give NATO pause for thought?
Hell if I know, but, it just might have been

"Let’s all be realistic. The US does not attack any nation that can put up a good fight.
The US and it’s chicken hawk coalition partners prey on the weak. Iraq. Libya. Afghanistan.
Syria has so far put up a dam good fight. If Russia was indeed intending to provide Iskander Missiles.... the NATO bullies would have a much harder time of taking down Syria"

The chemical weapons are a pretext. If anything happens it will be NATO' s mercs.

As for Egypt?? The military is guarding the palace. That tells us all we need to know.

Posted by: Penny | Dec 6, 2012 11:48:08 AM | 34

US and its servants always project themselves as good and their actions as just and lawful:
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'A no fly zone and ground troops
75,000 in the region presently

excerpt

" If a political decision is made to intervene, a limited no-fly zone could be imposed to stop the Syrian Air Force dropping bombs with chemical warheads.

Special operations forces would be deployed, backed by a substantial number of support troops, up to 75,000, to seize or safeguard the Syrian regime's chemical weapons facilities.'
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Imagine if all this took place in the region of the US,....75000 russian or iranian troops 'in the region, in, say, mexico, and declaring a no fly zone over the US..how could that not be read as an act of belligerence?

Posted by: brian | Dec 6, 2012 3:38:40 PM | 35

Thanks for the content translation, erraticideas. We're just starting to assemble these clues at A Closer Look on Syria. Do feel free to check it out and possibly contribute. Your skills would be so valuable there...

Others, thanks. Katiba-that means battallion indeed. Isber might be issber, which might mean patient or something. I note the talk of gassing patiently only after negotiations. I also recall the clerical clearance the FSA was given in March to execute whole Alawite families if needed (see Jihad Watch and MEMRI on that). So long as they showed patience and gave them a warning (and chance to flee) first. This video might be the warning required before the Gulf funders would allow the operation. It might have gotten to us by a leaker mixing up the audiences. The Alawites would of course become honorary Sunnis upon death... the video would have been sent by snail mail to their homes, sorry, got there too late.

That's all total speculation. Much remains unknown. It could be a total fake. It is rather convenient.

But then, I am like 50% sure someone was preparing a false flag. Obama regime's info probably comes from a SNC-type, allegedly from contacts in the Army, but really from another SNC guy, from his FSA link, and the involved Turks, who said operation Isber wind was ready.

Posted by: Caustic Logic | Dec 7, 2012 9:08:00 AM | 36

What Obama learned from the Bush administration. How to stir up a dangerous myth to manipulate the American public into believing danger danger and to prepare them for a US led military intervention.

Posted by: Kathleen | Dec 7, 2012 11:07:53 AM | 37

Bunch of dumb answers to a simple comment.
"Don't ya think USA, Israel, and the dark forces lining up the next massacre are better fits for the epithet "fascist". Of course you don't !"
Fine, call them fascist. But are you then conceding the point that the Syrian Baath is fascist? (By the way, the big forces intervening in the Syria war are the Gulf States and Turkey and not Israel and the US.)

"It's clear that Evan @ #27 is part of the "Anti-Anti-War" left"
Erm, no. I'm not. Just asked a simple question. Guess ad hominem attacks are easier for you than actually thinking a little.

"First - chemical weapons are ineffective and especially in cities dangerous to the own troops.
Second - Saddam did not use them for area denial, but for attacking the Iranian frontline."

First, True, but if the government has given up on an area it is trying to pacify an area it has no prospect of occupying militarily, it could well decide to use chemical weapons. See under Halabja. Second, Saddam used chemical weapons for both purposes. They are not mutually exclusive. Halabja was not on the front line. It was being approached by the Iranian forces and the government was afraid that the people would link up with them. Classic area denial.

"was impressed by your resume, who barely escaped high school. Which made your argument that Assad and Saddam, as two bad baathists, could be expected to act alike, all the more amazing. Is that true for Lutherans, Buddhists?"
Sorry, are you saying I barely escaped high school?
Yeah. Two wings of the Baathist party, as close as... Lutherans and Buddhists. It's well known that the Lutheran-Buddist schism was a nasty one.

How much of that moonshine you barflies been imbibing? (Yes, yes, ad hominem. Sorry. Had to allow myself the luxury.)

Posted by: Evan | Dec 7, 2012 2:11:03 PM | 38

Ali Örnek
LOL!!!

Okab Saqr has changed the story. Contrary to his statements in Al Sharq Al Awsat he claimed that he was sending "MILK" not weapons to Syria!!! He blamed also Al Akhbar to censor the records and manipulate the story. "I was talking with the commander of FSA for determining how much milk do they need to distribute the children"

http://www.ydh.com.tr/HD11134_suriyeye-silah-degil-sut-gonderdik.html

What a coward! Did not he challenge just a few days ago?
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and on those chemical weapons:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=321165197996895&set=a.100724200040997.1471.100681426711941&type=1&theater
so who is into using chemical weapons?

Posted by: brian | Dec 7, 2012 6:41:22 PM | 39

@evan, the US is intervening big time w/intelligence. Israel is continuing to do what the world expects, whatever it wants. And why isn't the US putting an end to it, it claims to love stability? Since you're a scholar with an interest in the area you must have seen photos of the Syrian legislature in session at the start of this emergency. There's a link on this site IIRC. I'm sure you noticed the multicultural admixture of the popular assembly. There were men in western suits and men in tribal dress. There were dark skins and light. There were women. PRECISELY the sort of society the Reptilian Order expresses a desire to foster at every opportunity. Whole Niagras of alligator tears stream from their faces and putrid homilies pass their lips as they wax large on the civil society they say they adore. Hideous lies! The death they toss off like so many crumbs is proof.

Posted by: ruralito | Dec 7, 2012 7:53:55 PM | 40

anonymous comes to the defence of syria
http://share.banoosh.com/2012/12/07/anonymous-message-opsyria/
must be another anonymous!...an earlier message seemed to be attacking syria

Posted by: brian | Dec 8, 2012 1:55:41 AM | 41

Evan, that is not the point. The point is 1) that Saddam Hussein at the time he used chemical weapons was supported by the US and 2) the US "coalition of the willing" managed to kill many more people in Iraq Saddam Hussein ever tried to kill by using among other things nuclear material that is still causing human desaster in Falluja - an equivalent of chemical warfare.

Posted by: somebody | Dec 8, 2012 2:06:34 AM | 42

interesting:
Sarina. ﺳﺮﻳﻨﺎ ‏@xxSxx_S
Hours after decision of patriot missiles was made,#Russia arms #Syria with ballistic missiles. http://www.wnd.com/2012/12/russia-arms-syria-with-powerful-ballistic-missiles/
source is a former CIA spy in iran!

Posted by: brian | Dec 8, 2012 2:32:07 AM | 43

Syria 24 English
18 minutes ago
#Iran and #Russia unforgettable blow to Intelligence officers of America and active Turkish ,Arab and French agents in Syria.

According to Tabnak news agency, while the Syrian Army in a preemptive move and in a pincer operation in Damascus suburb eliminated thousands of armed terrorists and disbanded their combat structure, informed sources state that Iran in cooperation with Russia by decoding the plans and movements of the terrorists who by the guidance from American Intel officers inside Turkey were preparing to launch a large scale assault on Damascus and take over the four airports around it and Daraa - Damascus highway and also Damascus international airport road, ruining all the terrorists' hopes for victory before winter.

The informed sources reported after that terrorists summoned 50,000 of their mercenaries to launch an attack on Damascus from four fronts, these moves were watched by Iranian and Russian military observers and by suggestion of both countries, Syrian elite military units launched a preemptive attack on the imported terrorist mercenaries.Reports suggest more than 5,000 terrorist were killed, a few thousands injured and hundreds of them arrested.

M.D

Posted by: brian | Dec 8, 2012 2:56:51 AM | 44

ruralito want to know
"why isn't the US putting an end to it, it claims to love stability?"
Um, maybe because the US doesn't control it.

somebody says my answer was not to the point. If he'd stated his point in the first place, I'd have answered his point.

OK, guy's it's been fun. Babylon.

Posted by: Evan | Dec 8, 2012 1:22:37 PM | 45

Um? Spare me the sophomoric blog-speak. As if you were stating the obvious. Disingenuous mountebank! With all their spies, satellites, drones, aircraft carriers, money, military bases, media outlets the poor Merkins can't lift a finger? Puh-leeze.

Posted by: ruralito | Dec 8, 2012 4:16:55 PM | 46

More, Amreeka, powerless to intervene.

“The muscle is already there to be flexed,” a US official told the London Times about the US military’s presence outside of Syria.

Posted by: ruralito | Dec 8, 2012 5:58:01 PM | 47

Sarina: http://www.wnd.com/2012/12/russia-arms-syria-with-powerful-ballistic-missiles/
source is a former CIA spy in iran! "

That's Reza Kahlili, a known "serial fabricator". Nothing he says is anything more than total BS.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Dec 12, 2012 7:05:24 PM | 48

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