June 05, 2012
Tuesday Obama heads the counter terrorism meeting at the White House. He looks at "baseball cards" and decides who's family is next to be put on the "kill list".
He seems to believe that there is no god but Obama. That is wrong.
Posted by b on June 5, 2012 at 11:11 AM | Permalink
Weighing in on President Obama's targeted drone strikes in the Middle East, journalist Jeremy Scahill did not mince words.
During his appearance on MSNBC's "Up With Chris Hayes" Saturday morning, Scahill repeatedly said that such attacks, when they killed innocent civilians, amounted to "murder."
Asked by Hayes why he would use such a "loaded" word to describe the strikes, Scahill responded at length.
"If someone goes into a shopping mall in pursuit of one of their enemies and opens fire on a crowd of people and guns down a bunch of innocent people in a shopping mall, they've murdered those people. When the Obama administration sets a policy where patterns of life are enough of a green light to drop missiles on people or to send in AC130s to spray them down..."
Read article Jeremy Scahill Calls President Obama A Murderer
Posted by: hans | Jun 5, 2012 11:53:28 AM | 1
about an hour ago
via Basel Mohaisen
"BREAKING: The Syrian Foreign Ministry: The ambassadors of U.S., France, U.K., Italy, Spain, Turkey and Switzerland are no longer welcome in Syria. "
So long suckers, take your spies and their bases home.
Posted by: brian | Jun 5, 2012 12:35:13 PM | 2
Sounds of the Sixties: "Hey! Hey! LBJ. How many kids did you kill today?"
Posted by: bevin | Jun 5, 2012 2:03:24 PM | 4
Since the NYT article includes a section on renditions, it's worthwhile mentioning that Syria as early as 8 years ago was still one of the many world destination points for the renditions by the US. Does anyone still doubt that the US had good relations with Syria until 2005.
Posted by: www | Jun 5, 2012 3:17:16 PM | 5
>>> So long suckers, take your spies and their bases home. >>>
Don't be too hasty to celebrate, Brian, the presence of ambassadors is always good insurance against bombs falling from the sky.
Posted by: www | Jun 5, 2012 3:23:28 PM | 6
If time and circumstance gave you a power like, uhm, the "finger of God", could you resist the temptation?
I'm not 100% sure that I could - but Bulimo Charisma could not. I don't condemn him, I doubt that any political creature could which had attained that "bully pulpit".
Posted by: Chuck Cliff | Jun 5, 2012 5:00:22 PM | 7
'Jeremy Scahill Calls President Obama A Murderer'
about time someone called these presedential killers murderers.
Posted by: brian | Jun 5, 2012 5:40:16 PM | 8
Posted by: www | Jun 5, 2012 3:23:28 PM | 6
good point,,.but thats Lizzie Phelans sentiments and words!
Posted by: brian | Jun 5, 2012 5:41:14 PM | 9
damn straight, he only calls it like he sees it.
Posted by: Alexander | Jun 5, 2012 5:42:33 PM | 10
Posted by: Alexander | Jun 5, 2012 5:43:14 PM | 11
'The article says that Obama tries to avoid any loss of innocent life, but that he considers any male in the area a combatant. Civilian deaths in drone attacks have become a flashpoint in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Yemen'
this is untrue...Obombers PR agent says this publically...privately Obomber shows no remorse or concern.
Posted by: brian | Jun 5, 2012 5:45:20 PM | 12
Bastard Hussein YouBastard is by any definition a murderer. As long as he personally signs off on every name on the list, I mean.
Posted by: Alexander | Jun 5, 2012 5:50:47 PM | 13
They came to bury senior al-Qaeda leader Abu Yahya al-Libi, not praise him.
But American officials are so keen to trumpet their latest drone kill that it sounds like they are about to offer him a job rather than announce they have killed a bitter enemy.
They say he was "experienced", "versatile", played a "critical role" as a "longstanding member of the leadership" who had "gravitas" and "religious credentials".
Rather like some official announcement of the retirement of a colleague, they continue: "[Al-Qaeda leader Ayman al-]Zawahiri will be hard-pressed to find any one person who can readily step into Abu Yahya's shoes."
"There is no-one who even comes close in terms of replacing the expertise AQ has just lost," they add.
This rather strange, gushing testimonial to a terrorist is all part of the Obama administration's new-found enthusiasm to open up about their drone wars.
Posted by: Alexander | Jun 5, 2012 7:13:28 PM | 14
From reading the Times comments,one wonders why everybody thinks this started on 9-11,when it really started in 1948,when alCIAda was formed along with that wacko racist religious state that copied the worst aspects of Nazidom but called it freedom and democracy.
Feedback from the poorly fed sheeple of neolibcon indoctrination.(propaganda enriched,though)
Posted by: dahoit | Jun 6, 2012 11:30:19 AM | 15
Both these writers point out the religion-likeness of this drone war. Brenner spells out what "Just War" really is and how the drone war fails all its criteria.
Tom Engelhardt: Electing an assassin-in-chief
What should astound Americans — but seldom seems to be noticed — is just how into the shadows, how thoroughly military-centric, and how unproductive has become Washington’s thinking at the altar of St. Drone and its equivalents (including special operations forces, increasingly the president’s secret military within the military). Yes, the world is always a dangerous place, even if far less so now than when, in the Cold War era, two superpowers were a heartbeat away from nuclear war. But — though it’s increasingly heretical to say this — the perils facing Americans, including relatively modest dangers from terrorism, aren’t the worst things on our planet.
Electing an assassin-in-chief, no matter who you vote for, is worse. Pretending that the Church of St. Drone offers any kind of reasonable or even practical solutions on this planet of ours, is worse yet. And even worse, once such a process begins, it’s bound to be downhill all the way. As we learned last week, again in the Times, we not only have an assassin-in-chief in the Oval Office, but a cyberwarrior, perfectly willing to release a new form of weaponry, the most sophisticated computer “worm” ever developed, against another country with which we are not at war.
Michael Brenner: "Just War" or Just War?
What Obama has done is to borrow the crude thinking of Florida's "stand your ground" law and applied it slapdash to America's foreign policy. Aggrieved, resentful, vengeful -- and armed to the teeth -- you prowl the global precincts with your mind fixed on a caricatured image of your enemy. You strike at will when anyone vaguely approximating that image registers on your retina. If they fight back, that confirms their guilt or evil intent and the rightness of your avenging anger. Having performed your duty to protect your fellow citizens, you trumpet your bravery and virtue -- with one hand holding high Thomas Aquinas.
As for the country at large, the shrug of the shoulders reaction suggests that we are little concerned about issues of "just war" -- after all, this is just war, something to which we have grown accustomed -- too accustomed.
Posted by: b | Jun 6, 2012 12:19:13 PM | 16
Ron Paul continues to be one of the few in the US who has the courage to speak the truth:
"The story about the Syrian massacre keeps changing, which should raise suspicions. First, we were told that the killings were caused by government shelling, but then it was discovered that most were killed at close range with handgun fire and knives. No one has explained why government forces would take the time to go house to house binding the hands of the victims before shooting them, and then retreat to allow the rebels in to record the gruesome details. No one wants to ask or answer the disturbing questions, but it would be wise to ask ourselves who benefits from these stories."
Posted by: Ammar | Jun 6, 2012 1:32:42 PM | 17