June 22, 2012
Downed Turkish Jet May Not Change Turkish People's Nonintervention Opinion
This will create some very interesting reactions:
Turkey's military says it has lost contact with one of its military aircraft over the sea close to the border with Syria.
Turkish media said the plane had crashed into Syrian territorial waters.
However, eyewitnesses in the northern Syrian town of Latakia told BBC Arabic that Syrian air defences shot down an unidentified aircraft near the town of Ras al-Baseet.
Ras al-Baseet is in Syria about 10 miles from the Turkish border.
Most interesting will be how the Turkish people will react to that. So far a wide majority of Turks is against any intervention in Syria:
An opinion poll by the Ankara Social Research Center published this month has found that more than two-thirds of those polled opposed any intervention by Turkey in Syria. The poll also revealed that a majority, even those who support the Turkish prime minister's party, believed Ankara should not take sides in the conflict.
Erdogan is facing critic even inside his party for having miscalculated on Syria and having been overly eager to support the Syrian opposition.
I find it unlikely that the downed jet will change that.
Posted by b on June 22, 2012 at 10:21 AM | Permalink
Makdessi pointed out that official correspondence with Turkey on Sunday clarified the details of the incident in response to the Turkish allegations that what happened was a Syrian aggression against Turkey, with the correspondence stating that on 11.40 AM on June 22nd, Syrian radar systems detected a flying object heading towards Syrian territories that performed a left turn towards the northeast and climbed down to a low altitude where it disappeared from the radars, only to appear suddenly at an altitude of 100 meters, 1 to 2 kilometers from the beach and Syrian land, and became suddenly visible to the naked eye.
Makdessi pointed out that the Syrian anti-aircraft defense used a land-based anti-aircraft machinegun with a maximum range of 2.5 kilometers, and that the wreckage found by the Syrian authorities and delivered to the Turkish side with an official record shows holes in the tail-end of the plane which confirm that it was shot down by a ground-based machinegun, not missiles.
"Had the aircraft been over territorial waters, we would have used missiles, not a land-based anti-aircraft machinegun with a maximum range of 2.5 kilometers... all of this confirms the falsity of the allegations that the aircraft was shot down outside Syrian territorial waters," he said.
In response to Davutoglu's statement that the aircraft wasn't alerted, Makedessi said that the Syrian anti-air defenses operate automatically in such cases, and that even if the unidentified aircraft was Syrian, it would have been shot down in the same manner, adding that that machinegun that shot down the plane isn't equipped with radar; rather it had visual confirmation of it approaching it at a distance of 1 to 2 kilometers at an altitude of 100 meters and at a speed of 800 kph.
Posted by: e695672 | Jun 25, 2012 4:54:02 PM | 102
>>> Makdessi ...>>>
e695672, I wouldn't buy a used car from the man anymore that I'd buy one from Victoria Neuland. Spokespersons for foreign affairs to be like that; it comes with the job.
Posted by: www | Jun 26, 2012 6:09:24 AM | 104
profile of a seditionist?
it doesnt get more blatant than this: former ambassador to syria Ford...gets a award for helping to destabilise Syria with armed jihadi terrorists: Substitite an iranian ambassador for Ford and US for Syria and what do you think the US regime would think?...close down the iranian embassy and declare war?
The announcement from the JFK Presidential Library that he was one of the winners of the JFK Profile in Courage award http://diplopundit.net/2012/05/07/jfk-profile-in-courage-award-honors-u-s-ambassador-to-syria-robert-s-ford/ , reads, in part:
A few short weeks after his arrival” (surely coincidentally) “a wave of pro-democracy protests swept through the Middle East and public protests in Syria launched an uprising …
Ford’s robust diplomacy on the ground in Syria centered on a strong show of support for the Syrian opposition movement.
Ford’s physical presence in Hama, without official sanction from the Syrian government, functioned as a visible statement of support (for the opposition.) Ford continued to support the opposition by attending protestor funerals, speaking with Syrians on the ground and through social media, and educating Americans via satellite images and descriptions of the conflict on the Embassy’s official website
Posted by: brian | Jun 26, 2012 6:09:54 AM | 105
Syriangirl Partisan shared a link.
Footage Proves Turkish Jet Violated Syrian Airspace http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0o20bM4mh_c&feature=plcp
I Talk to Dr. Ali Mohamad Editor in chief of www.syria-tribune.com/en/ that can verify the authenticity a video showing the moment the The turkish F-4 was shot down.
The footage shows that low range anti-air batteries were used as apposed to long range surface to air missiles. Although Turkish president abdullah Gul already admitted the Jet violated Syrian airspace Al jazeera and other media are now claiming the Jet was in international airspace . Spokesman for the Syrian foreign Ministry Dr.Jihad Makdissi, said in a press interview a few hours ago that Jet was within Syrian airspace and that Anti-air batteries were used and this video along with Dr.Ali Mohamad clearly supports this claim
Posted by: brian | Jun 27, 2012 4:27:39 AM | 106